DRF Race Of The Day - The Solana Beach Handicap - August 23

[oldmanTED]

Del Mar presents The Solana Beach Handicap for fillies and mares 3 year olds and up running 1 mile on the turf for a purse of $100,000. Currently 7 are entered to start with post time scheduled for 8:32 EDT. This is an open thread with all opinions, thoughts, selections, discussion, whatever very much welcome. Best of luck

DEL MAR

Sunday, August 23, 2009


<H3>8th (5:32)

Solana Beach H.
1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

<TABLE class=tjctable summary=Results><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col>Prg. #</TH><TH scope=col>PP</TH><TH scope=col>Horse</TH><TH scope=col>Jockey</TH><TH scope=col>Trainer</TH><TH scope=col>Wt.</TH><TH scope=col>Claim $</TH><TH scope=col>Equip.</TH><TH scope=col>Med.</TH><TH style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" scope=col>ML</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>Chateau Suisse</TD><TD>SCRATCHED</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"></TD></TR><TR class=altrow><TD>2 </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>Hot n' Dusty</TD><TD>Solis A</TD><TD>Abrams Barry</TD><TD>121</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">2-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>3 </TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Win Allison Win</TD><TD>Baze T C</TD><TD>Sadler John W</TD><TD>113</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">15-1</TD></TR><TR class=altrow><TD>4 </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Bootleg Annie</TD><TD>Gomez G K</TD><TD>Walsh Kathy</TD><TD>119</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">5-2</TD></TR><TR><TD>5 </TD><TD>4</TD><TD>Bel Air Sizzle</TD><TD>Quinonez A</TD><TD>Abrams Barry</TD><TD>119</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">12-1</TD></TR><TR class=altrow><TD>6 </TD><TD>5</TD><TD>You Lift Me Up</TD><TD>Rosario J</TD><TD>Hollendorfer Jerry</TD><TD>119</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">4-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>7 </TD><TD>6</TD><TD>Spinning Yarns</TD><TD>Gryder A T</TD><TD>Gonzalez J Paco</TD><TD>114</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">10-1</TD></TR><TR class=altrow><TD>8 </TD><TD>7</TD><TD>Flashover</TD><TD>Talamo J</TD><TD>Abrams Barry</TD><TD>117</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>L</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">7-2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta / $2 Parlay $2 Rolling Double / $1 Pick 3 / $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.)

Past Performances

http://www.drf.com/formulator-web/f...vening=D&raceNumber=8#past-performance-race/8
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[trytrytry]

3 Bootleg Annie Gomez G K Walsh Kathy 119 L 5-2

win

 

[Betsmart]

Do you bet this straight? Exacta?
I know nothing about horses. I may tail you guys

 

[APwins]

# 6 You Lift Me Up 4/1 $20 win ~~:<<

 

[oldmanTED]

Betsmart

Do you bet this straight? Exacta?
I know nothing about horses. I may tail you guys

Our horse posters bet Win, Place, Show, Exactas, Trifectas, Superfectas and other types of bets. You'll see that there will be varying opinions from each of us. I suggest you just watch this daily thread for awhile and see if you find a horse player that you like before following and BET SMALL.

 

[oldmanTED]

Race Update

Turf Condition: Firm
Jockey Changes: None
Scratches: #1 Chateau Suisse & #5 Bel Air Sizzle

 

[cocktailsnlongshots+]

8/2-4-6......exacta...think talamo stalks and walks away with the win

 

[JimmyJet]

Like Flashover to get the win this time with Hot n Dusty in the exacta.

 

[karson8]

$40 w/p #8 flashover

 

[glenrobinson]

Bootleg Annie to Win

 

[oldmanTED]

Appears that Bootleg Annie may try to go to the lead here and try to wire the field, however Flashover is coming off running an excellent second place finish in an optional claiming event chasing extremely hot fractions and only lost to the fast closing Hot n' Dusty near the wire. If Bootleg Annie slows the fractions down, Flashover could sit either right behind her or take the lead over and Hot n' Dusty could find it a bit more difficult to close on the leaders as the pace won't be as hot as the last time they met. Think that might be the way it sets up here.

#8 Flashover (Win & Place)

Good luck everyone!

 

[oldmanTED]

cocktailsnlongshots

Poster Betsmart who lives in New York and seems like a really nice person is interested in learning about horse racing. He has shown an interest in the Offshore Forum in the thread entitled "Sportsbetting or Horses", has asked me in my MLB threads if I play the horses, and I told him about this daily thread and he has posted here as you can see. You've indicated that you go to Belmont regularly and are willing to get together for beers with Betallsports, another great guy. Would you mind considering inviting Betsmart as well. I don't mean to barge in, just trying to help a fellow poster who I think would love to go to the races with you guys.

 

[cocktailsnlongshots+]

Poster Betsmart who lives in New York and seems like a really nice person is interested in learning about horse racing. He has shown an interest in the Offshore Forum in the thread entitled "Sportsbetting or Horses", has asked me in my MLB threads if I play the horses, and I told him about this daily thread and he has posted here as you can see. You've indicated that you go to Belmont regularly and are willing to get together for beers with Betallsports, another great guy. Would you mind considering inviting Betsmart as well. I don't mean to barge in, just trying to help a fellow poster who I think would love to go to the races with you guys.

just answered u in my post

 

[Betsmart]

Thanks Guys. I will follow along and watch for now and try to learn.
If you bet horses online with offshore books do they pay the same as the track?

 

[oldmanTED]

Thanks Guys. I will follow along and watch for now and try to learn.
If you bet horses online with offshore books do they pay the same as the track?

Many books pay full track odds on WPS and Exotics but some do not. Which book(s) are you going to use if you don't mind telling us. We can better tell you if we know the book(s). Also, some books give you a rebate, i.e a percentage of how much you wagered back into your account by the next day.

 

[joeyp]

$1 triple key for #30 #6 you lift me up with all with all

 

[Betsmart]

Many books pay full track odds on WPS and Exotics but some do not. Which book(s) are you going to use if you don't mind telling us. We can better tell you if we know the book(s). Also, some books give you a rebate, i.e a percentage of how much you wagered back into your account by the next day.

I use 5 Dimes, Betphoenix and a local

 

[OJS#32buff]

#2/48 tri key
#2/468 sup key

 

[oldmanTED]

I use 5 Dimes, Betphoenix and a local

I would suggest you use your 5Dimes account. They pay full track odds on all wagers for Major Tracks (A) for all types of wagers both straight and exotics with a $30,000 payout limit. I anticipate you wagering at tracks like Belmont, Aqueduct & Saratoga which are all Major Tracks (A). 5Dimes also credits your account 10% on all winning wagers. Losing wager receive no rebate. Below is a copy of their payout limits.

Racebook Payouts
Horse Payouts - Payouts are based on the actual track payout. The odds quotes listed in the race program are informational and are not used to calculate the payouts. Your account will reflect any payouts once the race is graded.
The following table shows the maximum total bet that will be paid out at actual track odds:
Maximum Odds paid for different wager types:
<TABLE class=des_01 border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="70%" bgColor=#03cacf align=center><TBODY><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#2757a0><TD>

Wager Type​

</TD><TD>

Major Tracks​

</TD><TD>

Other Tracks​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Win​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

no limit​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Place​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

no limit​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Show​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

no limit​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Quinella​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

200/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Exacta​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

400/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Trifecta​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

1000/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Superfecta​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

2500/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Daily Double​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

500/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 3​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

1500/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 4​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

5000/1​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 6​

</TD><TD>

No Limit​

</TD><TD>

10000/1​

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Options & odds where the 10% extra payout will be applied:
<TABLE class=des_01 border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="70%" bgColor=#03cacf align=center><TBODY><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#2757a0><TD>

Wager Type​

</TD><TD>

Major Tracks​

</TD><TD>

Other Tracks​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Win​

</TD><TD>

$2.40 or More​

</TD><TD>

$2.40 or More​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Place​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Show​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Quinella​

</TD><TD>

200/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Exacta​

</TD><TD>

400/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Trifecta​

</TD><TD>

1000/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Superfecta​

</TD><TD>

2500/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Daily Double​

</TD><TD>

500/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 3​

</TD><TD>

15000/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 4​

</TD><TD>

5000/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TD>

Pick 6​

</TD><TD>

10000/1 or Less​

</TD><TD>

Not Applied​

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Triple Crown & Breeder’s Cup maximum net profit per race: $100,000
Major tracks (A) maximum net profit per race: $30,000
Major tracks (B) maximum net profit per race: $15,000
Medium tracks maximum net profit per race: $10,000
Minor tracks maximum net profit per race: $7,500
Harness & Greyhounds maximum net profit per race: $5,000

 

[oldmanTED]

Betsmart

Here is the definition of the Types Of Wagers and a description of each from the 5Dimes website. On the site, just click on the Horse Racing tab and click on the Types Of Wagers.

Types of Racebook Wagers
The horse wagering software can be accessed by using the "Player Login" or by selecting "Racebook" from the menu in the Sportsbook.
To place a bet, select the desired track from the menu. All available races and betting options will be available on this screen. Simply point and click to choose your desired options.
Straight Wagers - "Win" means First place, "Place" is Second place or better, and "Show" is Third Place or better.
Exotic Wagers - Making an exotic bet is just like placing a straight wager, except now you will be selecting multiple horses. All selections must win. Track consolation payouts will not be credited. The following is a list of exotic wagers we offer:
Exacta: Choose two horses to come in 1st and 2nd in the specified order.
Trifecta: Choose horses to come in 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in that specified order.
Superfecta: Choose horses to come in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 4th places in that order.
Quinella: A wager where two horses are selected to finish first and second in any order.
Daily Double: A bet attempting to pick the winner of two consecutive races.
Pick3: The Pick 3 requires you to select the winner of 3 consecutive races.
Pick4: The Pick 4 requires you to select the winner of 4 consecutive races.
Pick5: The Pick 5 requires you to select the winner of 5 consecutive races.
Pick6: The Pick 6 requires you to select the winner of 6 consecutive races.
Coupled Pairs: Horses are coupled in the betting if they share the same owner. If you place a wager on one coupled horse, you automatically get the other. So if you select a horse that is part of a coupled pair (horses 1 and 1A), both of the coupled horses are considered as one selection. For example, if you played 1-3-7 as your Trifecta and the result was 1A-3-7, you win. Also, if one horse gets scratched, you have the other horse regardless of which horse you selected. For example, if you select 1A and 1A gets scratched - you still have the 1 horse.
If you do not correctly choose all the selections in a multiple pick wager, track consolation payouts are not automatically paid by the system. Track consolation payouts (i.e. 3 out of 4 winners at the track has a payout) are manually applied. Contact 5Dimes customer service to have any applicable manual payout credited.
In some instances, no one in the paramutual pool will have all the selections correct in an exotic wager. You may choose to have total pool payouts, less a 20% takeout, in place of track consolation payouts. With this selection, your payout odds will be calculated at a rate of 80% of the total amount of the pool divided by the base ticket amount for the pool in the paramutual. Payouts calculated in this manner only apply when the track does not offer a payout for all selections being correct. Maximum track payouts per race, as listed in the Racebook Payouts, still apply. This “Total Pool Payouts Only” request must be noted on your account before any wagers will qualify for this option. Only wagers confirmed after this option is chosen will qualify for total pool payouts. Once this option is selected, you may not switch back to consolation payouts. After this option has been applied to your account, contact 5Dimes customer service to have the difference in the amount of the track consolation payout and 80% of total pool calculation credited when applicable.
Results - As race times may change over the day, any wager made after a race begins will be voided. Most tracks are available until the gates open to begin the race. Past posted wagers will result in an immediate blocking of all accounts involved. Races are graded as soon as possible after track payouts are made available. 10% bonus awards are applied to the track payouts manually. These bonus payouts will take slightly longer than the track payout to be applied.

Scratches
Horse scratches are updated automatically by the system. 5Dimes assumes no liability for errors from data suppliers regarding horse scratch status. If you wagered on a horse before it was scratched, the follow rules will be applied:
Win / Place / Show: All wagers refunded when the race is graded.
Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Quinella: Each portion of your wager, which involves a scratched horse, will be refunded when the race is graded.
Daily Double / Pick 3 / Pick 4 / Pick 6: The post time favorite will never be used to replace a scratched horse. A selection with a scratch and one or more losers does not qualify for any refund. Only selections including all winners & scratches are eligible for a payout. Track consolation payouts are automatically applied by the system. If no track consolation is paid for a ticket with all winners & scratches, a win track payout price parlay will be manually calculated for all correct selections. The win price paid on each horse is used in a parlay to calculate the payout. This manually calculated payout will not be eligible for any extra promotional payout amounts. Contact 5Dimes customer service to have manual payouts applied.
You may choose to forgo manually calculated winnings when scratches occur and have the only stake refunded. This “All Scratch Refund” request must be noted on your account before any wagers will qualify. With this option, any combination with a scratched horse is no action regardless of the outcome of selections in other races. Only wagers confirmed after this option is chosen will qualify for a refund. Scratched horse plays in multi-race selections are not automatically refunded. Contact 5Dimes customer service to have your stake refunded on these selections when applicable.