does Murray St deserve an at-large bid ?

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selection committee goes with mediocre teams from the big conf's and screws the great teams from the small conf's
 

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selection committee goes with mediocre teams from the big conf's and screws the great teams from the small conf's
Which really sucks. Mediocre teams like UCLA, indiana, Illinois get plenty of chances to beat good teams and fail. Murray St runs the table in their conference, loses the final on basically Belmont's HC and is done. Another deserving team may get eliminated today if ill st wins. Can't see three teams from the MVC getting in, and two were top-11 teams.
 

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selection committee goes with mediocre teams from the big conf's and screws the great teams from the small conf's

Well they lost to a mediocre big conference Xavier team by 27… the reason they pick the big conference teams is because they are better.
 

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Which really sucks. Mediocre teams like UCLA, indiana, Illinois get plenty of chances to beat good teams and fail. Murray St runs the table in their conference, loses the final on basically Belmont's HC and is done. Another deserving team may get eliminated today if ill st wins. Can't see three teams from the MVC getting in, and two were top-11 teams.
N. iowa has to be in
 

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Not sure on this but...don't they havo no top 100 rpi wins.
 

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Murray St looks like they will be out...Personally I would have them in before some of these bubble Big 10 teams that are losing left and right
 

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Hard to make a case for Murray St..........

Schedule ranks at #246. Conference ranks as the 21st best conference.....

Losing to Houston, lose by 28 to Xavier.... losing to Portland......losing by 35 to Valpo.... 35 to Valpo....... damn

Granted this was back in November but this was their toughest competition and they don't have any signature wins..

Bethel, Brescia ??? MTSU, Drake.......

The signature win could come today....... only if Illinois St beat Northern IA

Their resume just doesn't cut it to the mediocre big conference schools......

I would prefer to see them than the mediocre teams, but that isn't likely to happen.........
 

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Which really sucks. Mediocre teams like UCLA, indiana, Illinois get plenty of chances to beat good teams and fail. Murray St runs the table in their conference, loses the final on basically Belmont's HC and is done. Another deserving team may get eliminated today if ill st wins. Can't see three teams from the MVC getting in, and two were top-11 teams.

Sorry, but this is a pretty ignorant statement. Northern Iowa and Wichita St. are locks.

Northern Iowa has an RPI of 15, seven wins against the RPI top 100, one loss outside of the RPI top 50, and while their SOS isnt great at 152, its 100 sports higher than Murray St.

Wichita St. has an RPI of 17, seven wins against the RPI top 100, two losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 109.

Murray St. has an RPI of 70, one win against the RPI top 100, four losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 254. Let this soak in for a minute, Murray St.'s second best win this year is a 12pt win over Western Kentucky. Also, before anyone says Murray St.'s SOS is so low because of their conference, they played the #231 out of conference SOS, so they did this to themselves.

Lastly, for what its worth, UCLA and Illinois are currently listed as outside of the tournament by most. The one you did list that's currently projected as in, has an RPI of 57, seven wins against the RPI top 50 (four of which were against teams in the top 25 at the time), four losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 24. So its pretty ignorant to call Indiana "mediocre" then in the same breath insinuate that a well below mediocre Murray St. team should get in.
 
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Sorry, but this is a pretty ignorant statement. Northern Iowa and Wichita St. are locks.

Northern Iowa has an RPI of 15, seven wins against the RPI top 100, one loss outside of the RPI top 50, and while their SOS isnt great at 152, its 100 sports higher than Murray St.

Wichita St. has an RPI of 17, seven wins against the RPI top 100, two losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 109.

Murray St. has an RPI of 70, one win against the RPI top 100, four losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 254. Let this soak in for a minute, Murray St.'s second best win this year is a 12pt win over Western Kentucky. Also, before anyone says Murray St.'s SOS is so low because of their conference, they played the #231 out of conference SOS, so they did this to themselves.

Lastly, for what its worth, UCLA and Illinois are currently listed as outside of the tournament by most. The one you did list that's currently projected as in, has an RPI of 57, seven wins against the RPI top 50 (four of which were against teams in the top 25 at the time), four losses outside of the RPI top 50, and an SOS of 24. So its pretty ignorant to call Indiana "mediocre" then in the same breath insinuate that a well below mediocre Murray St. team should get in.

Lets just have the best 64 teams regardless of conference then.
 

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you do realize that the mediocre big schools from power conf's do NOT get in because they are "better"
 

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Their out of conference resume is downright awful… not even bad, its embarrassing. An earlier post ran it down… if you really think they deserve it because they beat up on their garbage conference, thats fine but they don't.
 

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Somebody thought something of them...LOL.....Ranked 24th going into the weekend.

That is a horrible conference is right.
 

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so ohio st or lsu do deserve to get in?
small conf teams make for a more interesting tourny
 

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so ohio st or lsu do deserve to get in?
small conf teams make for a more interesting tourny

If it came to picking between Murray St. and a team that took undefeated UK down to the wire, who do you think the committee would pick? Murray St. would lose to UK by 30.
 
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so ohio st or lsu do deserve to get in?
small conf teams make for a more interesting tourny

I don't see how watching Murray St get boatraced in the first round makes the tourney more interesting. Murray St couldn't beat a Houston team that is 4-14 in the AAC at home and was waxed by Xavier who is a projected 9 seed and Valpo who is a projected 13 seed. They have no business in the NCAA tournament as an at large.
 

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