Well i have seen some live but nothing like online or even anywhere near it....I see 2 or 3 suckouts, badbeats, coolers ,etc in live poker every hr...i see 2 or 3 of these online every 10 hands. It isnt possible and its fake . I have no clue as to the how, whys, whens or wheres but there is NO DOUBT in my mind you are not getting a fair deal AT ANY site you play on...
Come on PPP. You know better than that. If you really thought it was rigged you would never play another hand of online poker again.
Look at what you just said.
You said you see 2 or 3 suckout an hour live, and 2 or 3 suckout every 10 hands online.
With a slow dealer you are only going to see about 15 hands an hour live.
Its poker.
When you input hands into a program you would be amazed at how close the % is to the odds.
Random generators are pretty damm exact to a shuffle.
No i still play because i dont think its rigged against me per se.....
I just dont see how the online hands can happen at the rate the do. We go 4 or 5 hands a lot of times "live" where top pair or even A high wins..
I could give examples for hours. u have 2 players, 1 has 78s and 1 has AKs..flop comes 910J then the Q on the turn, etc , etc, etc.....
I just think its programed to provide action...Ive played live now everyday for close to 2 weeks and when i come home and turn on any site i feel like im playing an entirely different game...I flop a set live im looking to get as many chips in the middle as possible. i flop a set online im waiting to see whats coming to beat me...Like i say its 2 entirely different games to me...
I just dont see how the online hands can happen at the rate the do. We go 4 or 5 hands a lot of times "live" where top pair or even A high wins..
I could give examples for hours. u have 2 players, 1 has 78s and 1 has AKs..flop comes 910J then the Q on the turn, etc , etc, etc.....
I just think its programed to provide action...Ive played live now everyday for close to 2 weeks and when i come home and turn on any site i feel like im playing an entirely different game...I flop a set live im looking to get as many chips in the middle as possible. i flop a set online im waiting to see whats coming to beat me...Like i say its 2 entirely different games to me...
Lets take this hand here.....we're in the 2nd hour, over 70 hands played and ive had 1 hand that any poker book would tell you to play.........and it lost.
The bigstack has not missed with any hand he has called with ....
PokerStars Game #21037284543: Tournament #112086109, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/10/08 18:38:43 ET
Table '112086109 15' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Erotikknett (3341 in chips)
Seat 2: allynlong (1725 in chips)
Seat 3: batcaver (765 in chips)
Seat 4: scags23 (4901 in chips)
Seat 5: Donrodolfo (5135 in chips)
Seat 6: bugsyfslagle (5247 in chips)
Seat 7: Haslev (6386 in chips)
Seat 8: Acala (2950 in chips)
Seat 9: NUMBER3n8 (8176 in chips)
bugsyfslagle: posts small blind 75
Haslev: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [6c As Ad 2s]
Acala: calls 150
NUMBER3n8: calls 150
Erotikknett: folds
allynlong: raises 675 to 825
batcaver: folds
scags23: folds
Donrodolfo: folds
bugsyfslagle: folds
Haslev: folds
Acala: folds
NUMBER3n8: calls 675
*** FLOP *** [5h Qd Qc]
NUMBER3n8: checks
allynlong: bets 900 and is all-in
NUMBER3n8: calls 900
What does he have ?
Now doesnt matter i still have the low draw if we can get runner runner low, plus there are 2A's left so even if he has a Q or 5 im not drawing completely dead...
TURN *** [5h Qd Qc] [6d]
Ok 1 half in...ANY low card i have the nut low right?
RIVER *** [5h Qd Qc 6d] [4s]
OK....I have the nut low and top 2 pr....want to guess his hand?
Lets move on.......after that horrible hand i have pracitically no chips left (after playing a grand total of 3 hands) so any move i make is all-in...
Dealt to allynlong [Jc 3d 5c 2d]
NUMBER3n8 said, "nh's"
allynlong is connected
allynlong has returned
Donrodolfo: calls 150
bugsyfslagle: folds
Haslev: folds
Acala: folds
NUMBER3n8: calls 150
batcaver said, "ty"
Erotikknett: folds
allynlong: calls 150
batcaver: calls 75
scags23: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 4c Kd]
Ok im probably not drawing to the best low but i have an open ended straight that could turn into the nut low as well.........
allynlong: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 4c Kd] [Ad]
ok i now have the nuts both ways.....i cant be counterfited although someone could make a better high hand....
The big stack bets the min....i dont want to run anybody out and i want to be able to get all-in no matter what card comes on the river...so i min raise to 300.....everyone folds but the bigstack..
RIVER *** [5s]
Bingo!!........Im doubling up or at least splitting the pot right ?
Tell me what he has.....Ill give you a clue to both hands.....I LOST chips on BOTH of the hands ive posted...only 2 people at the river and i have the nuts for half at a minimum in each, yet i LOST chips in both hands....Tell me what he has??????
The bigstack has not missed with any hand he has called with ....
PokerStars Game #21037284543: Tournament #112086109, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/10/08 18:38:43 ET
Table '112086109 15' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Erotikknett (3341 in chips)
Seat 2: allynlong (1725 in chips)
Seat 3: batcaver (765 in chips)
Seat 4: scags23 (4901 in chips)
Seat 5: Donrodolfo (5135 in chips)
Seat 6: bugsyfslagle (5247 in chips)
Seat 7: Haslev (6386 in chips)
Seat 8: Acala (2950 in chips)
Seat 9: NUMBER3n8 (8176 in chips)
bugsyfslagle: posts small blind 75
Haslev: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [6c As Ad 2s]
Acala: calls 150
NUMBER3n8: calls 150
Erotikknett: folds
allynlong: raises 675 to 825
batcaver: folds
scags23: folds
Donrodolfo: folds
bugsyfslagle: folds
Haslev: folds
Acala: folds
NUMBER3n8: calls 675
*** FLOP *** [5h Qd Qc]
NUMBER3n8: checks
allynlong: bets 900 and is all-in
NUMBER3n8: calls 900
What does he have ?
Now doesnt matter i still have the low draw if we can get runner runner low, plus there are 2A's left so even if he has a Q or 5 im not drawing completely dead...
TURN *** [5h Qd Qc] [6d]
Ok 1 half in...ANY low card i have the nut low right?
RIVER *** [5h Qd Qc 6d] [4s]
OK....I have the nut low and top 2 pr....want to guess his hand?
Lets move on.......after that horrible hand i have pracitically no chips left (after playing a grand total of 3 hands) so any move i make is all-in...
Dealt to allynlong [Jc 3d 5c 2d]
NUMBER3n8 said, "nh's"
allynlong is connected
allynlong has returned
Donrodolfo: calls 150
bugsyfslagle: folds
Haslev: folds
Acala: folds
NUMBER3n8: calls 150
batcaver said, "ty"
Erotikknett: folds
allynlong: calls 150
batcaver: calls 75
scags23: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 4c Kd]
Ok im probably not drawing to the best low but i have an open ended straight that could turn into the nut low as well.........
allynlong: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 4c Kd] [Ad]
ok i now have the nuts both ways.....i cant be counterfited although someone could make a better high hand....
The big stack bets the min....i dont want to run anybody out and i want to be able to get all-in no matter what card comes on the river...so i min raise to 300.....everyone folds but the bigstack..
RIVER *** [5s]
Bingo!!........Im doubling up or at least splitting the pot right ?
Tell me what he has.....Ill give you a clue to both hands.....I LOST chips on BOTH of the hands ive posted...only 2 people at the river and i have the nuts for half at a minimum in each, yet i LOST chips in both hands....Tell me what he has??????
i get a free $50 to open a new account at fulltilt last feb. playing limit poker, .25-.50, .50-1.00, 1.00-2.00. i play quite a bit with this buy-in. i accumulate over 7000 fulltilt pts. i start working on my game, buy a good book, study it. i says, 'this is going to def make me a better player'; lots of things here i never realized before.
i'm doing so good, that i email the guy who got me started and i tell him that i'm going to stop playing at fulltilt cause i'm not getting any rakeback. i'm hoping that he might give me some kind of kickback. never received a reply. but almost immediately, i couldn't win a hand. top pair, top kicker, didn't manner, seemed like a weak ace would hit his kicker and i would lose to 2 pair. kings, they had aces, etc. ten hours of play, crippled my little action acct. it was like somebody just hit a button. never felt that way abt it til now.
i'm doing so good, that i email the guy who got me started and i tell him that i'm going to stop playing at fulltilt cause i'm not getting any rakeback. i'm hoping that he might give me some kind of kickback. never received a reply. but almost immediately, i couldn't win a hand. top pair, top kicker, didn't manner, seemed like a weak ace would hit his kicker and i would lose to 2 pair. kings, they had aces, etc. ten hours of play, crippled my little action acct. it was like somebody just hit a button. never felt that way abt it til now.
hno:
i never said it was rigged per se' ..
my claim is the percentages dont come anywhere near holding up.
and i have played 100's of thousands of hands.
and it never ceases to amaze me that the guy who gets his money in good but has less chips in a sit and go , rarely has his hand hold up.
and i am a winner lifetime .. so its not just some loser crying about getting rivered
my claim is the percentages dont come anywhere near holding up.
and i have played 100's of thousands of hands.
and it never ceases to amaze me that the guy who gets his money in good but has less chips in a sit and go , rarely has his hand hold up.
and i am a winner lifetime .. so its not just some loser crying about getting rivered
