Do you think this story will make the cover of NY Times 28 times like AbuGrabass did?

[PatPatriot]

[size=+1]US marines find underground prison, bodies in Fallujah [/size]
<SMALL>AFP/Yahoo News ^ | Nov 12 2004</SMALL>


FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - US marines uncovered an underground prison in Fallujah containing at least two bodies and two emaciated men who were still alive, an intelligence officer, who refused to be identified, told AFP.

The prison was discovered in a house in the Jolan neighbourhood, considered the insurgent nerve centre in the city. Marines were clearing a house that had just been shelled by US military and were alerted by screaming.

The troops opened a door at the back of the house and found a barred prison with three cells. An AFP reporter saw two corpses covered in ash, and what appeared to be two handicapped men were led from the building.

 

[Phaedrus]

Patriot

That is terrible, and the truth of the matter is they have probably only scratched the surface. Would it be fair to say that that is precisely the sort of thing you expected them to find in Fallujah? I certainly did; just as much as I expect every man and woman serving in the armed forces in any capacity at all to act as if he or she is representative of our nation itself, not of its government, not of its fighting capabilities, but of all of us and the principles upon which our country was founded and for which it allegedly stands.


Phaedrus

 

[RobFunk]

it is terrible. i hadnt heard about this yet. wonder what it looks like. probably like a dungeon knowing its in iraq. the boys who had to go in there were probably scared for their lives. then again they have they robot thing that climbs stairs and scales walls and takes pictures

 

[eek.]

and what appeared to be two handicapped men were led from the building

Limbs chopped off. Islamic punishment for...? Theft? Sexual crimes? Working with US forces?
We will never know for sure.

I notice there's a news clampdown in Iraq as well as the curfew/state of emergency.
Al-Jazeera was booted out in August and all other foreign news agencies have been told to follow the Government line, especially where Falluja is concerned.

 

[JinnRikki]

For this reason exactly we MUST treat Irqai prisoners according to humane standards. There must be a clear difference between us(the good guys) and them(the bad) in the average Iraqis mind. And I know we must use torture at times, and I have no problem with it. But, A) make sure you know WHO you're torturing, torturing everyone is stupid and gains nothing B) if you must torture DON"T use video, C) don't allow troops who are not much more than kids, loose with cameras in an installation like Abu Ghraib.

 

[PatPatriot]

C) don't allow troops who are not much more than kids, loose with cameras in an installation like Abu Ghraib

Closest I ever came to agreeing with you.

I think there is juuuuust a little difference between underwear on the head a no head at all.

As far as Abu Grabass goes of heard about worse horrors at college campuses or for that matter Red Sox World Series celebrations.

 

[mudbone]

Pat,

there were prisoners killed, say again, killed at abu ghraib as there were elsewhere in Iraq and Afghanistan, never mind sodomized, tortured, etc.

and again, there's been quite a bit of documentation that many of the prisoners there were just innocent Iraqi civilians who were swept up by US forces.

Now, if the Iraqis meant so much to us that we are willing so lose 1000 of our soldiers, suffer 7,000 more wounded and spend over $200 billion to liberate and provide democracy to, than surely they're worthy of the same civil liberties provided in a democracy, aren't they?