Do you think baseball players who come over from Japan should ...

CharlieMaxwell · Oct 9, 2003

Do you believe baseball players who come over from Japan should be able to win Rookie-of-the-Year awards?

Fishhead · Oct 9, 2003

Of course!

SrMuny · Oct 9, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie Maxwell:
Do you believe baseball players who come over from Japan should be able to win Rookie-of-the-Year awards?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure why not?

Mr.Jones · Oct 9, 2003

No, except that a precedent has already been established. But you know this could just keep happening year in year out. Its a shame when an all-American kid like Rocco gets the shaft.

FunkSoulBrother · Oct 9, 2003

I think they should.. after all the award is for MLB Rookies.

However, I care a lot less who wins it now.

Mr.Jones · Oct 9, 2003

Fish and Sir Muny do you know if our vets that go over there qualify if they have that award?

CharlieMaxwell · Oct 9, 2003

Well, some people believe that Ichiro and Matsui were already grizzled veterans in the Japanese leagues and that they shouldn't be allowed to compete for ROOKIE honors with kids who PURE rookies. Just a thought!

FunkSoulBrother · Oct 9, 2003

I believe they were Grizzled veterans too... of Japanese Baseball. That doesn't make them ineligable. It just makes winning the award sort of a gimmie. Kind of like Division 1 teams scheduling 1-AA opponents. The wins count in the standings, just no one gets all that excited about it. Its part of life.

lxajay · Oct 9, 2003

Being that they are verternas of another professional league should nulify them for any rookie awards IMO. The Japanese and Korean leauges are the #2 and #3 baseball markets in the world, with stiff competition. Yes, they are new to MLB, but they are already professional ball players.

WildBill · Oct 9, 2003

So are minor league player and most scouts say Japan players are about Double and Triple A talent.

CharlieMaxwell · Oct 9, 2003

Hey Wild Bill, when is your next article coming my way?

WildBill · Oct 9, 2003

Sent one this afternoon about 5pm, plan to have one tomorrow. Did you get it?

CharlieMaxwell · Oct 9, 2003

Just looked Wild Bill and I got part 3 or 4. No hurry for the other one because Nover has also got an article due. Did you happen to see the Red Wings beat the Kings tonight with 1 second remaining in the game?

BigGamesOnly · Oct 9, 2003

Isn't there an age limit in the NFL for rookie of the year? Why shouldn't there be one for MLB?

I agree that if a player comes from Japan that they should not be considered for rookie of the year if they have played a certain amount of games. While the Japanese leagues may be at the level of AAA, some of the players who have played there for years are at the Major League level.

RPM · Oct 9, 2003

good idea big games!~ an age limit would be an excellent solution.

WildBill · Oct 9, 2003

There are major league level players at all levels of the minors, just not deemed "ready" for the majors. Its no different in Japan, there are a small minority of MLB quality players facing AAA or AA level competition. Granted playing until late 20's or early 30's before hitting the big leagues helps a bit in terms of maturity or consistency, but why hold that against them?

TheGeneral+ · Oct 11, 2003

I have no problem with it. If they are the best, then they are the best. i would hate to win the award knowing there was a better player, but he was not eligible.

BigGamesOnly · Oct 11, 2003

How about this for a parallel idea then. Should a player from the Canadian Football League be allowed to be rookie of the year in the NFL during his first season, even though he had played 5 or so years in Canada?