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needed something to post since there are no plays til monday.

One reason i came to this site was for the simple fact of the info on the so called professional handicappers for their service plays.

The other reason was to keep track of my plays and figure out how i can get better at winning money. not really at my picks, just trying to figure out what goes wrong on a night when i should win a lot of $$, and i lose or break even.

feel free to post your feelings if need be.

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truly....

I loved checking your plays on a regular basis to see if I was on base.....

I hate seeing all the bashing in the forum.
You know what they say - "Some people's kids"
I guess they weren't told if they don't have anything nice to say.........
stop wasting all our time with it!!!!

I hope you will find your biggest satisfaction in the fact that you are doing a great job making bundles of cash......that should certainly make it easier to ignore those that spend their time dissing others rather than having fun with all the money they have made.

Hope to hear from you soon......
Hope you had a great Independence Day!!

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thanks big one.


and you right. sometimes i go about things the wrong way when i get frustrated. i'm always trying to be someone elses' big brother, instead of taking care of my own family.

best of luck and hope continued success.

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How true big One...

That is what I was saying all along...I still couldnt understand, that with all the units being won by some,...would they need to get into someone else's business and start to create and spread negativity and BS....Simply doesnt make any sense, especially if your really winning Big like you claim....I mean who would have the need,want, energy, time, desire, etc...to even waste their time with getting involved in BS slander campaign against another...You would think that they would be to preoccupied with enjoying the fruits of their labor to its full extent, Right!..

Well, maybe things posted here(plays) and things actually done in the real life(betting them) is not really what is happening at all as one claims....I mean, C'mon on, I play a lot of games, but just like when I go to Vegas and start the with the early games on the board, I continue on with the rest, throughout the day, if they work out after capping them to be worth a shot to invest in, and my day wagering would be run this way.....But Hello, posting 40+ plays in one day, almost everyday by some, is a little ridiculous....I mean, who the **** is actually going to play 40+ fvckin games at one time.....But I cannot confirm this and I do not know for sure, so I will just leave it at that...

Another problem is, is that everyone thinks that everyone here does and plays and caps the same way, and that is simply not true at all...Plus some here is in to trying to fill their need for praise or attention from others, through their records they acquire...Really, for what?...I mean, everyone needs recognition and some will even die for it, as it is what makes us feel good...but come on, after you get it on a consistant basis, then that should already tell you how others see you...The amount of consistant views day in and day out over a long time that you get also is another way that should give you feedback as to your value as a capper here...Problem is,is that some here, after they get in a winning streak or gets praised by others for a good day, start to get arrogant and addicted to this attention, I can admit I did when I first came here, but I have been there and done that so its good old news for me and the current constant views and comments I still get is all I need to know that others still see me as being of value and worthwhile...Still, for some this is not enough and they go on to now battle other cappers for the TOP capper here, instead of realizing that anyone here, who shares what they know for us all is not our enemy but our Alie(sp), against the real enemy, the Man and only the Man...Some posters here, then become to caught up in competing with other cappers, and then start to resort to a slanderous campaign against him or them...Simply stupid...But, like I stated to some, although your winning in bases, you obviously have voids in your life that takes away from you enjoying your success, and thus one then falsely believes that they can get whatever it is they need, through tearing down of another poster here....It wont work, and in reality when one resorts to this, he will actually be tearing his own self down even more...

Like I mentioned before, records is a nice way of seeing how one is doing on the year, but it doesnt reflect how one will continue to do for the rest of the year or even for today...I am not saying this to justify my down record in MLB or any record for that matter....I am just saying that although records are good to see ones successes, we still need to battle the Man again today, and the best way is through sharing with eachother not just records, but also info, insights, knowledge, etc with eachother....I came here to share and get information from others, information and insights that I was not able to recognize or think of myself...Also, the stats and trends and other infor on teams, players, situations, is what also has been a big value for me to be able to acquire...I in turn, have provide the same here as my way of giving back and contributing something that is worth while to others and something that most people here would not know of or be able to acquire...I did this a lot in FB, especially concerning Hawaii, and also in CBB, my two strongest sports....So the wheel of knowledge, information, insights, so to speak, would continue to spin, and that is how as one forum, we could become a force against the Man....

When we start putting others down because they are down on the day, month, year, etc..or when we start making our need to fill those voids in our lives and/or start buying our successes that we think we are the deal and the only one that matters, thinking also that others owe us something because of the winning plays we posted, which no one does, then we all lose our ability to help eachother will beating the Man, and this is exactly what he wants to happen...Egos, insecurities, jealousy, etc, gets in the way of why you came here in the first place and that will cause more chaos and the eventual fall in the value of this place and the good cappers and posters will slowly, but surely, leave to go to another forum that is still remembering and working together to battle the Man and not eachother...

I dont have a problem with anyone here on how and what he wants or choses to post, as long as it is not a lie against another or a slanderous campaign that is promoted against another, because of this persons own personal feelings towards a particular capper/poster....Who the hell cares?...and why do you care so much?...Those that carry on with the bashing is simply worthless and useless to this place...It is hard enough trying to cap out winning plays, yet have to be able to keep you head staighth and deal with assholes spreading their weaknesses, jealousies, and insecurities about another....Hey, if you dont like someone or agree with someones methods, then simply stay the fvck out of his threads, and continue on your way looking for posters who you do agree with...No one here is going to change anyone, yet many here with their arrogance actions, think that they can...For what?...Your need to makie the world like how you see it should be.....Please, you better wake up and realize that the world dont revolve around you and that if you ever want to get respect from others and want them to accept your differences, opinions, and ways, then you better learn how to be more accepting and more able to live a life knowing that each person is in control of themselves and not you....Learn to live your own life on your own merits and achievements, stay positive, learn to give support and encouragements, and dont anything with the sole intent of hurting someone, and you shall get the same in return...Believe That!...but spread your negativity and your only going to get it back....And Gang, if we allow negative people(bashers) to spread their shit all over the place, it will spread like cancer and then we all we be hurt by it...

Just know, that eventhough you may have a disagreement or dont like how one choses to live their own life, is no reason for you to put them down....The fact to the matter is, just like how you dont like something about another, you can be pretty sure that you as well have things about you that do not sit well with others...Also, remember Gang, it is so much easier to get mad and complain about what another does or doesnt do, then it is to get mad at ourselves and see what we are not doing or havent done...Take a step back and realize that all that matters is that you do the best that you can to make you happy....You wont find it through tearing down another....You will find it buy building up one another....With Positive, you get Positive...With Negative, we all lose.....

I am not going to ask anyone to change or do something different then they already do here....All I am suggesting is that for this place to be the best and provide the best for everyone to benefit from against the Man, is that we all help in sharing more of what we know....If you just post plays and just records, then that is fine, but can we share more info on why it is that you like the play....It doesnt have to be a long ass writeup like I do....Even I go over board at times, but I just want to be sure everyone got all the Major and some minor reasons to why I am banging a play so huge before they just jump on board....But doing this, I know it helps to bring someone more peace and confidence in chosing to follow a play or not....That is a good feeling to have, as this business is stressful enough...What I came to also realize on another forum, as well as here, is most people though they are aware of someones successful record, they are also in need of knowing and acquiring what is it about a particular play that is giving you confidence in it...Remember Gang, your records reflecting the past whether its up or down, is a record that is representative of that particular situation, and each day and each game as we all know is a totally different situation most times and a new battle....and thats why the need for us to share as much of our thoughts, infor, insights, etc....can help us all to see if we are all on the same page and thus validate a play and not a capper, on what is a strong play or not....Sharing a word, a sentence or two, is all that is needed....If you want to share more, then by all means do it....There is a saying, "by teaching we all become smarter and better"...So if we all helped eachother out by teaching(sharing of info and insights) then we could all benefit and all become that much more of a force against the Man...Now I know that others dont have the time to do writeups, but like a mentioned, a few words, a few sentences, does a lot to help believe me.

Remember Gang, The Man is our enemy, and not each other...Lets work together and make sure that we stay ahead of the game against him....If you must battle though, just ask yourself first, what are you going to benefit from doing it, and then, is it worthwhile for you to do it...Then take it from there, but remember also, to Live and Let Live, and to each his own......May we all be successful in all we chose to do...and may we all find success against our true enemies and not against those that may look like our enemies, when really they are not...Best of Luck ALL and Aloha CC.
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BTW, this is just my opinion...TFWIW.

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no one is reading or has time to read this.

i know you feel need to post on everything, but i don't need your ideas or opinion on everything.


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posted July 05, 2004 09:40 AM
practice what you preach.

go get a life.


leaving on a sour note, but i have gotten on you because you are dishonest.

i could care less about your record, but to post only some plays here, then posting diff plays at other sites. you are helping no one by doing that.

to post plays after the game starts, very dishonest and misleading. which is bs for those

who do follow, they have no chance to play your bet. what is that.

and don't give me that crap about you sent them an email because they are on your list. if that is the case then stop posting here and just send out your emails.

and a good record for the college world series, to bad you never posted your last plays, but took credit for wins.

and i like how you talked a great game about the catcher from fullerton. to bad you never mentioned him until he had a big hit in a game that you bet against him.

one word cocaptain

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I am dishonest...Boy you should watch who you try to slander...Because things like these can be stated about you kid...

Well, I dont post different plays at different sites...But sometimes, I am not able to post everything at all the sites....

I am not the one who needed to create Alias, mid season in the CBB....Remember that...After you said Hawaii was going to get killed by S ILL and you told everyone to and I quote "BET THE HOUSE"...Funny how that Alias suddenly disappeared...

Hey sometimes I am to busy to post them on times...So what you going to do...No one pays me to post here, but still I try to do what I can...People just were getting spoiled by me being the first to post all the time...But things has changed in my life, so cant help but to adjust to them, making posting sometimes secondary...Doesnt matter, cause I only give out losers remember...No sense people follow my losing plays right...

Hey, people who do not register here or at the other sites, because they dont post....would rather I email them plays if I am sending it out...There is a big population of viewers that far exceed those that actually post...

The last two plays were documented at Covers in someones elses thread on the game....Go and find it...I didnt feel like posting it here after the BS went on....I posted at this place 3 BIG GAME PLAYS with Write-Up....The last two were not in this catergory so why does it matter that I didnt post it....What you need to realize, is that I dont post everything I play....I post what I feel like posting....Many times in CBB I gave out plays that I had, that I didnt post everything I gave out via email...People think that everything I play I post....Not true....I play parlays, teasers, smaller bets, etc...No need to post everything...Like the saying goes "When to much is given, to much is expected".

Getting back to the World Series last two plays, dont believe me open a post at Covers asking people if I released it...and who I played...Their is several people who I have been corresponding with over there throughout the CWS...so they will easily verify it or just go look for the thread with the CWS plays..

As far Kurt Suzuki is concerned, if you think that I never talked about him....You better go back to my threads and find my Writeups which I mention him....You will see, that you are simply again making shit up as you go alone...Please...Give me a break...I dont need to hide anything, from anyone...For what...Is there a reason that you feel that I need to do this?...Please let me know...

The only person that is dishonest is you....Creating Alias, acting like going TOUT is not your intention when you stated that, this has been your intention...Posting records with words like "approximatly" or "around"...I am up around this much...and approx that much...why not an accurate account of your record....This you would think would easy for a system and math person such as yourself....

Dishonest...I think your describing yourself....You try to state things about me, and I continue to point you to verification of the truths all the time...Like I said, I have nothing to hide...So again your attempts have failed miserably again...

Now, why dont you tell us...When is it that you are planning to start your own TOUT Business?....Thanks for sharing....Aloha CC.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
its called cut and paste.

take a computer course then.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What are you refering to now?
 
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yeap, around so many units up.

actually i'm up more units then i post for the fact of mistakes, and time.

christ i made one mistake in college basketball and that is all i heard about. a total of 10 units when i was up over 400.

give me a break.

if i was down more than i say, i'm sure someone would of already challenged it. i'm sure you know what i'm talking about.
 
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you were down units last night.

clearly chasing with 4 plays on one game which you never do. well i have never seen you do that, anyway, clearly chasing and gave no reasoning at all for the plays.


????????????????????????


so don't ? others when writeups are not given.

i have never purposely not given a answer to a question about a game.

my record stands for itself.

you on the other hand i would want a full derscription on your choice of a game because you are so bad.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
yeap, around so many units up.

actually i'm up more units then i post for the fact of mistakes, and time.

christ i made one mistake in college basketball and that is all i heard about. a total of 10 units when i was up over 400.

give me a break.

if i was down more than i say, i'm sure someone would of already challenged it. i'm sure you know what i'm talking about.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, no one really cared about you....You were not even here for more than a month and yet you were claiming and Guaranteeing to hit 65% and that we should all follow you, as your the BEST...Look you still claim to be the best here, and you have only been here for less than 6 months...Believe me, no one cares about short term posters....They always come and go like the wind....

As far as someone questioning my records...well there was only one poster who seems to want to question those that are respected and popular amongst others....He questioned the NyReb when he went on his successful run, and then me after I had won 8 consecutive weeks in the CBB...This poster is a nobody, yet he expects others to believe what he post is the truth....What a Joke...He clearly had a motivation to slander me due to my success in the hoops and his lack of it...

He is a Basher and how much of a Bashers word can you take as the truth...This clown expected everyone would take his word for it....Shit I caught him in many errors, but did he come out an address the mistakes he made...NOPE..just went on continuing to slander me in the Hoops...but he failed....Because, you had to be a blind and mute not to remember that winning tear I went on...My BIG GAME PLAYS and my TOP 6 UNIT PLAYS were spanking some major ass....and you even posted that no one else can come close to competing with them....You do remember saying that dont you?...I easily can get the tread to verify this for you...LOL..
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
you were down units last night.

clearly chasing with 4 plays on one game which you never do. well i have never seen you do that, anyway, clearly chasing and gave no reasoning at all for the plays.


????????????????????????


so don't ? others when writeups are not given.

i have never purposely not given a answer to a question about a game.

my record stands for itself.

you on the other hand i would want a full derscription on your choice of a game because you are so bad.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I liked the play strong on the Angels last night like everyone else, and I felt that the other plays which I rarely play looked good to use....Chasing, hey anytime you lose, your chasing, so what is your point....If you lose today and then bet tomorrow, your chasing yesterdays losses...So what is your point...Why make it like I am the only one who plays more plays at a particular time...

Dont you remember being down, only to come out in the following days with a card with more than 30-40 plays...HOLY SHIT 40 PLAYS in one day...WTF, if that is not chasing, then I dont know what is....and do you expect others to believe that you played all 40+ plays at one time...Please..
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Please dont speak of records, because you dont post it....

Yep, I am so bad...You are clearly demented...Like I said, you cant tear me down, as the amount of views and compliments I get, not to mention the thank yous for giving out winners and sharing a lot of my work with others, from several forums clearly state that you are simply wishing you could achieve the respect and popularity that I have achieved for myself....Nice try!
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are you serious with this post.


i challenged you head to head.
loser to take a hike.
you chose to be a pussy and not take me up on the challenge.

good for you because you are still here.

how did that western vandy game treat you.
i live 5 minutes from western and i took vandy as the game of the century, you convinced a lot of people here to take western.

i live in mac country, you live in pineapple country.

HAD YOU EVEN SEEN WESTERN PLAY AT ALL.
DOUBT IT.

TAKING THE HIGH ROAD CAPTAIN.
 
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YOU HAVE SO MUCH DOUBLE TALK IT IS STUPID.

GO TAKE YOUR A.D.D. MEDS AND BUILD SOMETHING.

MAYBE THAT TREE HOUSE YOU HAVE BEEN DREAMING OF SINCE YOUR 12TH BIRTHDAY.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
are you serious with this post.


i challenged you head to head.
loser to take a hike.
you chose to be a pussy and not take me up on the challenge.

good for you because you are still here.

how did that western vandy game treat you.
i live 5 minutes from western and i took vandy as the game of the century, you convinced a lot of people here to take western.

i live in mac country, you live in pineapple country.

HAD YOU EVEN SEEN WESTERN PLAY AT ALL.
DOUBT IT.

TAKING THE HIGH ROAD CAPTAIN.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Have you ever personally hung out and talked to the Warrior players....Nope, so how can you make a comment like they will be blowout by 40 pts...Pleasee...And why again did after you lost that game making an ASS out of yourself again be telling everyone to BET THE HOUSE, this is a GUARANTEED WINNER...did your Alias all of a sudden dissappear, HUH?

You want to challenge me to a contest....Are you kidding me or what....Please, boy you have been here less than 6 months, why do you think that I would even waste my time with you....And another thing, dont you know that my battles are with the Man and no one else....What is there to gain by challenging you...Please dont waste my time....I bigger fish to fry and your just a guppy....

What Truly, you dont like getting back what you want to unfairly dish out to me....Now we are going to address all your issues...You shit on me, expect to get the same in return...Plain and Simple!

You claim to be the BEST of all the Cappers here...Why is that?

And when are you turning TOUT?...Tried to gain a reputation by taking me on is not the way to do it, and I told you this...You wont prove anything to anyone by doing that...But your to hardhead to realize this..
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
YOU HAVE SO MUCH DOUBLE TALK IT IS STUPID.

GO TAKE YOUR A.D.D. MEDS AND BUILD SOMETHING.

MAYBE THAT TREE HOUSE YOU HAVE BEEN DREAMING OF SINCE YOUR 12TH BIRTHDAY.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Double talk, nope my friend you and I know it is the straightest talk coming at you...and your trying so hard to avoid and divert it from becoming an issue...Well, you speak say I am dishonest, yet I answer all your questions and even direct you to where you can verify it...Yet you avoid the direct questions and try to hide from it...Please....You want to play hard, we shall play hard....Just remember, when you unfairly kept attacking me, you asked for it...Now deal with it...Its all on you now, as your credibility with others is worth shit...And your attempts to slander me have failed miserably....Nice Try though!
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Hey, the Meds and the tree house statement is weak....Lets stick the facts....So when you turning TOUT?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by truelyhandicapping:
ALREADY ANSWERED THAT ?.

I TOLD YOU YOU NEED TO LISTEN IF YOUR GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh really, I missed it....Can you tell me again when you are planning on going TOUT..Thx
 

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