Do all you right wing conservs admit that Kerry is SMARTER than Bush?

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At least give us liberals that. Bush is MUCH dumber than Kerry. Not saying smarter makes a better president, but CLEARLY, Kerry is smarter.
 

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No problem admitting that but if being smart was a supreme virtue we would have to do away with democracy -- very few votes at the high end of the IQ spectrum.

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Would it be too much to ask to let us know the reason for editing ID's post? Thanks.
 

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Do Democrats really represent the little guy? Not in 30 years!
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By KARL ZINSMEISTER September 2, 2004; Page A12 Wall Street Journal

Democrats: the party of the little guy. Republicans: the party of the wealthy. Those images of America's two major political wings have been frozen for generations.

The stereotypes were always a little off, incomplete, exaggerated. (Can you say Adlai Stevenson?) But like most stereotypes, they reflected rough truths.

No more. Starting in the 1960s and '70s, whole blocs of "little guys" -- ethnics, rural residents, evangelicals, cops, construction workers, homemakers, military veterans -- began moving into the Republican column. And big chunks of America's rich elite -- financiers, academics, heiresses, media barons, software millionaires, entertainers -- drifted into the Democratic Party.

The extent to which the parties have flipped positions on the little-guy/rich-guy divide is illustrated by research from the Ipsos-Reid polling firm. Comparing counties that voted strongly for George W. Bush to those that voted strongly for Al Gore in the 2000 election, the study shows that in pro-Bush counties only 7% of voters earned at least $100,000, while 38% had household incomes below $30,000. In the pro-Gore counties, fully 14% pulled in $100,000 or more, while 29% earned less than $30,000.

As Daniel Henninger has noted on this page, it is "becoming harder by the day to take the Democrats seriously as the party of the common man." The financial pillars for Democrats are now super-rich trial lawyers, Hollywood entertainment executives, and megabuck financiers. Both parties have their fat cats, obviously, but Federal Election Commission data show that many of the very wealthiest political players are now in the Democratic column.

Today's most aggressive election donors by far are lawyers. As of July, law partners had donated $112 million to 2004 political candidates; by comparison, the entire oil and gas industry donated only $15 million. And wealthy lawyers now tilt strongly Democratic: 71% of their money goes to Democrats, only 29% to Republicans.

Wall Street, traditionally thought of as a GOP bastion, is no longer any such thing. Ultra-income brokers and bankers now give heavily to the party of Andrew Jackson. Six of the top 15 contributions to Democratic nominee John Kerry came from partners at firms like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and J.P. Morgan.

John Kerry is a perfect embodiment of the takeover of the Democratic Party by wealthy elites. If elected, he would become the richest man ever to sit in the White House; experts describe his bloodline as "more royal than any previous American President"; his educational path was pluperfect upper crust. And there are now many Democrats like Mr. Kerry -- from Sen. Jon Corzine to Sen. Jay Rockefeller -- who are simultaneously top of the heap in wealth and on the left in politics.

Migration of the rich and powerful to the Democrats has been so pronounced, John Kerry has actually pulled in much more money than sitting President George Bush this spring and summer. Mr. Kerry's monthly fund-raising totals have routinely doubled or even tripled Mr. Bush's sums. And while Mr. Bush has relied heavily on flocks of small donors, the money on the Kerry side has come much more from well-heeled individuals like the Hamptons beach-house owners who handed him $3 million in one day at the end of August.

So, which is the party of the people now?

* * * America has a long history of distaste for elitism. George Washington quickly learned that his proud, obstreperous, self-governing Yankee privates, imbued with a powerful "levelling spirit. . . where the principles of democracy so universally prevail," would not be dictated to, but had to be led. From Andrew Jackson to George Bush the elder, U.S. politicians have known that leaders who put on airs or otherwise separate themselves from ordinary Americans will be penalized by the electorate.

Reinforcing the egalitarian principles on which our government was founded is the fact that America (as Daniel Boorstin pointed out) has traditionally been a culture without a capital. At the time of our founding, more than 95% of the population lived outside the major cities, and we continue to be a highly dispersed, localized, and independent-minded people, quite resistant to bossing from the center.

Average Americans believe elitism is not only wrong in principle, but also ineffective. And they are correct. A cross-section of everyday people will generally prove better at solving knotty societal problems than a fraternity of experts -- as economics writer James Surowiecki demonstrates nicely in "The Wisdom of Crowds." Careful observers like Friedrich Hayek noted long ago that ordinary citizens possess forms of knowledge, intuition, and moral sense that make them better collective arbiters of critical national debates than any educated elite. This is not just rabble-rousing, but a time-tested truth that explains much of the success of America and the common people who have come to her shores.

Once upon a time, America's distaste for elitism translated easily into a distrust for conservatism. But today, with country-club Republicans having been swept aside by Nascar Republicans, there is nothing undemocratic about American conservatism. Among elites, it is now liberalism that is the dominant creed.

Over the last generation, reports Harvard political scientist Samuel Huntington, professional elites have become both "less nationalistic" and "more liberal than the American public. This is revealed by 20 public opinion surveys from 1974 to 2000." One authoritative study of a dozen different elites, including top civil servants, lawyers, religious authorities, military officers, entertainment moguls, union leaders, non-profit managers, business executives, and media chieftains, found that every one of these groups but two (businesspeople and the military) was twice to three times as liberal as the public at large.

It's not as if the Democrats have taken over the top of the socioeconomic ladder and the Republicans the bottom. Rather, Democrats dominate at the very upper and lowest rungs, while Republicans find their following in the middle.

You can see this when slicing the electorate by education as much as by income. At the bottom, school dropouts and unskilled workers are heavily Democratic, but so are grad students and professors on the other end of the educational spectrum. (College faculty groups are the very top financial contributors to John Kerry, according to Federal Election Commission data.) Meanwhile, high school graduates and individuals with bachelor's degrees (the middle) are predominantly Republican.

In the publishing industry, new book imprints and clubs have been founded recently by several major publishers to cater specifically to politically conservative readers (who were previously neglected by booksellers). The publishing industry has been pleasantly surprised by the spending, loyalty, and depth of the non-liberal reading public. The ambitious conservative middle has become a mass market too large and too lucrative to ignore.

So we're in an interesting new era. The Right has become a thinking party, with rich intellectual resources, that is simultaneously dead set against political elitism and cultural snobbery. Conservatism has laid claim to America's quiet but multitudinous middle class. And during the same period, the Left has come to dominate among the overclass and underclass that bracket the conservative middle.

As a result, the old way of thinking about U.S. politics -- little-guy Democrats vs. wealthy Republicans -- is about as accurate and relevant today as a 1930 weather forecast. New fronts have moved in. Expect some major squalls ahead.

Mr. Zinsmeister, author of "Dawn Over Baghdad" (Encounter Books, 2004), is editor in chief of The American Enterprise (TAEmag.com).
 

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i have an almost 7-year-old nephew

HE is smarter than bush
 

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Who would you rather protect your 7 year old nephew from a raghead terrorist in school?

Keep in mind there have been no major terroist attacks in this country since 9/11.
 

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Be afraid, be very afraid!!

Vote Bush and he will keep you safe by waging wars!!

Your kids will die, take them out of school, protect them, make them socially inept!!

Become a Republican!!
 

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This is all so juvenile - my guy is smarter than your guy, my penis is bigger than your penis! What a bunch of ego stroking crap!

The only question that should be asked is, "Who would make the better President?"

On the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, the American people, in all of their wisdom, will pick the man who will be the better President.

Until then, it's all debate.
 

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one of the better articles you have posted patriot, I actually enjoyed that.
 

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from countdown last night. who do the terrorists want to win? you won't hear this on fox news.

The only word we‘ve heard from any terrorist group about this election game, right after the terrorist attacks in Madrid that David Dreier talked about, was a terrorist group that sent an e-mail to a London newspaper, and it said, and I quote: “We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections because his idiocy and religious fanaticism,”
 

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the terrorists are rooting for president Bush huh? if that doesnt say it all, I dont know what does.
 

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wilhelm - please explain how you could sensor my post about bush being a murderer? you are constantly posting about the deaths in iraq. you are constantly saying how this room is essentially censorless. and i make a post about bush causing murders (not to mention advocating the death penalty) and you DELETE it? of all people wilhelm, it is disappointing that you would censor my freedom of speech like that.
 

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There is no need for anyone to call the president of the United States a murderer on this forum. Others have been edited for similar statements. There is absolutely no evidence to support such an accusation other than personal rancor. Stay in-bounds and you will not get edited. Talk about the death penalty fine, talk about deaths in Iraq fine, but back it up with facts, not groundless accusations.

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wilheim, are you kidding? It is perfectly legitimate to call Bush a murderer. He made the unwarranted decision to send our kids to death to avenge his daddy's unfinished business. He went to war on false "information" with reckless disregard for truth. When youmake a mistake with your car it is reckless homicide. It is murder. It is perectly fair to call George W. Bush a murderer. And so....GEORGE W. BUSH IS A MURDERER.
 

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D2bets FWIW - I am just trying to keep the forum civil, obviously not going to happen, so knock yourselves out - both sides, I'm done. ID sorry for editing your post, go ahead and re-post if you please. Anything goes.

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As unfit governor Bush set the record for state executions, while working the shortest work days.

As unfit appointed president Bush started two wars, one on completely false premises, while managing to set record presidental vacation time.

Tens of thousands of humans have died directly from the wreckless decisions of the former coke-head and alcoholic.

Any way you sugar-coat he's not only a murderer, he's practically a genocidal lunatic.
 

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Nice shitty post as usual D2bets. What an ass clown you are. Losing the election are you? Acquire a clue, Bush didn't murder anybody. What did your buddy Clinton do when they tried to bring down the World Trade Center Towers in 1993?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Fired a missile into an aspirin factory? That's right, you loser. Nothing, that's right, nothing. Now Bush all the sudden is a murderer. I'll track every one of your posts until the election is over, you scum.
 

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Quick D2, post a big word and your hillbilly stalker will be lost until the election is over
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So was it Bush's fault that Russia was hit also by genocidal Islamic maniacs, Lander? What should Russia do, Lander? Negotiate? You seem to have all the answers, jackass
 

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