DIME: Orange/Cotton - BIG OHIO STATE!!

[DimeByDesign]

Yesterday: 8-0-1 = +13 DIMES
Two Day total: 20-0-2 No losses +41.5 DIMES


Ohio State -2.5 -120 6 Dimes to win 5 Dimes

FH Ohio State -.5 -115 2.3 Dimes to win 2 Dimes

FQ Ohio State -120 1.2 DIMES

I see Ohio State getting up early in this game and putting way to much pressure on T. Boyd to handle. Clemson has not shown they can step up in big games. They beat themselves with way turnovers and they are undicipline on both sides. They will be outcouached going against a Ohio State team that has far superior defense. I can't help to think that all the upsets and expecially the Bama loss doesn't help Ohio State's motivation to no be in the same position. This one should not be close.

42-24

Oklahoma State -1.5 2 DIMES

Better more physical Defense that can run the football.

Parlays:

Parlay: Oklahoma State -160 and Ohio State -2.5 1.5 Dimes to win 3.4 Dimes

Parlay: Ohio State ML and Oklahoma State OV 58 (bt down) 2 Dimes to win 3 Dimes

Parlay: Ohio State -2.5, KC +3.5, and Saints +3.5 1 Dime to win 3 Dimes

 

[DimeByDesign]

Adding:

Oklahoma State OV 61 2 DImes

 

[IndianaJones2013]

I love both, hope your success continues!

 

[TheOMan]

Yesterday: 8-0-1 = +13 DIMES
Two Day total: 20-0-2 No losses +41.5 DIMES
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Ohio State -2.5 -120 6 Dimes to win 5 Dimes

FH Ohio State -.5 -115 2.3 Dimes to win 2 Dimes

FQ Ohio State -120 1.2 DIMES

I see Ohio State getting up early in this game and putting way to much pressure on T. Boyd to handle. Clemson has not shown they can step up in big games. They beat themselves with way turnovers and they are undicipline on both sides. They will be outcouached going against a Ohio State team that has far superior defense. I can't help to think that all the upsets and expecially the Bama loss doesn't help Ohio State's motivation to no be in the same position. This one should not be close.

42-24
View attachment 16647
Oklahoma State -1.5 2 DIMES

Better more physical Defense that can run the football.

Parlays:

Parlay: Oklahoma State -160 and Ohio State -2.5 1.5 Dimes to win 3.4 Dimes

Parlay: Ohio State ML and Oklahoma State OV 58 (bt down) 2 Dimes to win 3 Dimes

Parlay: Ohio State -2.5, KC +3.5, and Saints +3.5 1 Dime to win 3 Dimes

I would like to know what you base the above claim on (your claim about Ohio State's "far superior" defense).

Basically every advanced metric that I know of thinks Clemson has an edge on this side of the ball, and that's before you adjust for probably Ohio State's two best defensive players being out (Roby and Spence).

 

[DimeByDesign]

I would like to know what you base the above claim on (your claim about Ohio State's "far superior" defense).

Basically every advanced metric that I know of thinks Clemson has an edge on this side of the ball, and that's before you adjust for probably Ohio State's two best defensive players being out (Roby and Spence).

Rush Defense?! Clemson hasn’t played a solid game against a ranked opponent since the season-opener against Georgia, and much of that has to do with the alarming rate the Tigers have turned the ball over. The South Carolina game was a disaster with three fumbles and three interceptions, each seemingly more unbelievable than the last. Eventhough they may have a great chance and passing the ball against Ohio State, Ohio State knows that and one dimensional is not sucessfull. Knowing they are going to have to pass, makes it easier to coach. Time to prepare will show how "superior"this defense will be. Thats why i really don't like the over in this game. I think Ohio State keeps them pretty contained.

 

[savage55]

Impressive record and I'm with you on Okie st but leaning the other way with Clemson. Clemson is happy to be in this bowl Ohio St not so much.. Also Ohio st was hit with a huge flu or some sort of sickeness with 12 or more players including B.Miller.. I could see a huge let down for the Buckeyes here.. JMO

 

[TheOMan]

You failed to address my question. I asked you specifically about why you think Ohio State has a "far superior" defense to Clemson when every advanced metric disagrees vehemently with you. In attempting to address that, you discussed all of the following:

1) Clemson's offense
2) Clemson's turnovers
3) Clemson's chances at throwing the ball against Ohio State
4) Your opinion on the total

I asked you why you evaluate Ohio State's defense as being "far superior" to Clemson's. You still haven't provided a basis for this opinion.

Football Outsiders' defensive FEI ratings have Clemson at 16, with Ohio State at 36. Those are schedule-adjusted numbers. The raw efficiency (unadjusted numbers) have Clemson at 14, with OSU in the 50s.

That same site's S&P defensive ratings have Clemson 11th with Ohio State at 40th. S&P has OSU at 37th and 59th against the run and pass respectively. Clemson, on the other hand, is rated 14th against both the run and pass.

This makes sense, of course, because Clemson held some very good running backs in check this season (Mike Davis, Todd Gurley/Keith Marshall, Andre Davis, Devonta Freeman).

I understand what goes into Football Outsiders' model and why they think Clemson's defense is at least as good as Ohio State's. What I'm asking is why you believe otherwise. Maybe this time you can answer with why you think that's the case rather than immediately discussing something unrelated.

Rush Defense?! Clemson hasn’t played a solid game against a ranked opponent since the season-opener against Georgia, and much of that has to do with the alarming rate the Tigers have turned the ball over. The South Carolina game was a disaster with three fumbles and three interceptions, each seemingly more unbelievable than the last. Eventhough they may have a great chance and passing the ball against Ohio State, Ohio State knows that and one dimensional is not sucessfull. Knowing they are going to have to pass, makes it easier to coach. Time to prepare will show how "superior"this defense will be. Thats why i really don't like the over in this game. I think Ohio State keeps them pretty contained.

 

[Cobra07751]

You failed to address my question. I asked you specifically about why you think Ohio State has a "far superior" defense to Clemson when every advanced metric disagrees vehemently with you. In attempting to address that, you discussed all of the following:

1) Clemson's offense
2) Clemson's turnovers
3) Clemson's chances at throwing the ball against Ohio State
4) Your opinion on the total

I asked you why you evaluate Ohio State's defense as being "far superior" to Clemson's. You still haven't provided a basis for this opinion.

Football Outsiders' defensive FEI ratings have Clemson at 16, with Ohio State at 36. Those are schedule-adjusted numbers. The raw efficiency (unadjusted numbers) have Clemson at 14, with OSU in the 50s.

That same site's S&P defensive ratings have Clemson 11th with Ohio State at 40th. S&P has OSU at 37th and 59th against the run and pass respectively. Clemson, on the other hand, is rated 14th against both the run and pass.

This makes sense, of course, because Clemson held some very good running backs in check this season (Mike Davis, Todd Gurley/Keith Marshall, Andre Davis, Devonta Freeman).

I understand what goes into Football Outsiders' model and why they think Clemson's defense is at least as good as Ohio State's. What I'm asking is why you believe otherwise. Maybe this time you can answer with why you think that's the case rather than immediately discussing something unrelated.

Clemson held Gurley in check? Todd Gurley had 12 Carries for 154 yards, that is 12.2 Yards Per Carry. That was Clemsons only decent win of the season and there were a couple of key plays (botched snap on the FG, and Murray's 2 Turnovers).

OSU has two key injuries in the Secondary that will be tough to deal with but aside from the last two games OSU's Defense was very good. Opponents Yard Points Play 0.301 (#17); Yards Per Rush 3.2 (#6).

Clemson will have a hard time running on OSU.

Who would you rather put your money on, Urban Meyer or Dumbo Sweeney? I know who my money is on

 

[Gooch]

Also Ohio st was hit with a huge flu or some sort of sickeness with 12 or more players including B.Miller..

News to me!!!!

 

[DimeByDesign]

You failed to address my question. I asked you specifically about why you think Ohio State has a "far superior" defense to Clemson when every advanced metric disagrees vehemently with you. In attempting to address that, you discussed all of the following:

1) Clemson's offense
2) Clemson's turnovers
3) Clemson's chances at throwing the ball against Ohio State
4) Your opinion on the total

I asked you why you evaluate Ohio State's defense as being "far superior" to Clemson's. You still haven't provided a basis for this opinion.

Football Outsiders' defensive FEI ratings have Clemson at 16, with Ohio State at 36. Those are schedule-adjusted numbers. The raw efficiency (unadjusted numbers) have Clemson at 14, with OSU in the 50s.

That same site's S&P defensive ratings have Clemson 11th with Ohio State at 40th. S&P has OSU at 37th and 59th against the run and pass respectively. Clemson, on the other hand, is rated 14th against both the run and pass.

This makes sense, of course, because Clemson held some very good running backs in check this season (Mike Davis, Todd Gurley/Keith Marshall, Andre Davis, Devonta Freeman).

I understand what goes into Football Outsiders' model and why they think Clemson's defense is at least as good as Ohio State's. What I'm asking is why you believe otherwise. Maybe this time you can answer with why you think that's the case rather than immediately discussing something unrelated.[/QUOTE


I am not an Espn analysis who can pick purely on stats. By the way Espn has had their to basically apologize for their picks today. My bets are based more on the perception of the entire one game scenario. My reasons are to explain why I think Ohio States Defense will be a factor in tonights game. Just bet Ohio State and you can thank me later.

 

[DimeByDesign]

News to me!!!!

Flu...Love it! More power to them.

 

[DimeByDesign]

Second half all Oky State:

3rd Q Oklahoma minus .5. Plus 110. 1 Dime

Second Half: Oklahoma -4 plus 115 2 Dimes

 

[DimeByDesign]

Oklahoma st minus 10 +240 .5 Dimes

 

[Daigo23]

Damn just put all my bets in and don't have any left to bet Okla -10 one

 

[d3nv3r]

good luck tonight DBD

on OSU also

 

[ballerhanz]

balls

 

[DimeByDesign]

balls

I just got kicked in the balls.....

Wow.....


Sorry fellas. I told you I am streaky. Time to regroup and look towards the NFL Playoffs..

 

[Lvtexholdm]

I just got kicked in the balls.....

Wow.....


Sorry fellas. I told you I am streaky. Time to regroup and look towards the NFL Playoffs..

Get it bak tomorrow! GL!!

 

[memphis]

I just got kicked in the balls.....

Wow.....


Sorry fellas. I told you I am streaky. Time to regroup and look towards the NFL Playoffs..

theirs no bad beets just bad plays bounce back manyanas

 

[WrEkkED]

Either one of those could have won. Not a bad call by any means, just the one that pays money and one that doesn't. Very nice bowl earnings thus far anyways.