Did the Warriors run for the Most Season Wins ...Now Costing them a Chance for the Championship ?

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Did the Warriors run for the Most Season Wins ...Now Costing them a Chance for the Championship ?

  • Yes they are running out of steam

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • No, they just ran into a Hot Team

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • No, the Thunder are just a better Team

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • No, Curry not being 100% is taking affect

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • It Ain't over until it's over ... Warriors will still Win

    Votes: 1 5.6%

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No. They ran into a bad matchup against a team with 2 of the top 5 players in the world. OKC turned out to be quite a bit more versatile than anyone gave them credit for.

OKC has dominated going small.

Thunder lineup of Westbrook, Waiters, Roberson, Durant, Ibaka has outscored the Warriors 91-35 in 26 minutes the last two games.

That's incredible.
 

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probably a combo of multiple things. I don't think OKC is a bad match up for them, GSW have lost to them only once in the last 2 years. Many of those wins were by 15+ points. OKC is is playing great right now. Lots of confidence after beating the Spurs. GSW has been playing tired for about a month or more, its been easy to see the decline. Curry isn't 100%. All of these things playing a part in this series.
 

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Maybe it's this:

Greatest Tandems in NBA History

West & Baylor
Jordan & Pippen
Shaq & Kobi
Jabbar & Magic
Alcindor & Robertson
Lebron & Wade

Westbrook & Durant belong with this group

Can't think of any other duo that does

OKC support cast has been terrific better than expected that's another big reason
 

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the games have been epic beat-downs, non competitive

OKC's length dominating on the defensive end, while GS can't defend their own shadow right now
 

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Any team trying to win back to back is gonna be fighting some fatigue but that isn't really more of an issue than it usually is at this time of year. They got an easy matchup rd 2 because Griffin and Paul died within 5 minutes against Portland. OKC had to play another elite team.

Nobody was calling them tired in the 1st half of game 1 or after their game 2 beatdown. They've gotten killed on the road vs OKC the last two but so did San Antonio. OKC is just playing great, especially at home. Very little margin for error for GS.

Curry likely isn't 100% but he isn't 50% either, he's out there and he has had good games. Westbrook's defense on him has been as good as you can play him.
 

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probably a combo of multiple things. I don't think OKC is a bad match up for them, GSW have lost to them only once in the last 2 years. Many of those wins were by 15+ points. OKC is is playing great right now. Lots of confidence after beating the Spurs. GSW has been playing tired for about a month or more, its been easy to see the decline. Curry isn't 100%. All of these things playing a part in this series.

They played 3x this year and every game was competitive. I'd call that barely relevant but 2014-2015 definitely isn't remotely relevant. That's a long, long time ago in a land far away at this point.
 

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maybe OKC is a bad matchup for GS. Maybe they should've done a coach pop approach and rest more of the starters.

Either way, we cannot take credit away from OKC. They aren't getting lucky. This GS team would still smash a lot of other teams. OKC is playing good offense and good defense.
 

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They played 3x this year and every game was competitive. I'd call that barely relevant but 2014-2015 definitely isn't remotely relevant. That's a long, long time ago in a land far away at this point.

was referring to the "bad matchup" comments. Both teams are virtually identical the past 2 seasons. A bad matchup doesn't lose/win once in 2 years. This years scores
116-108
121-106
118-112
OKC losing all of them. Simply put, its not the matchup.
 

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was referring to the "bad matchup" comments. Both teams are virtually identical the past 2 seasons. A bad matchup doesn't lose/win once in 2 years. This years scores
116-108
121-106
118-112
OKC losing all of them. Simply put, its not the matchup.

I don't see what relevance 2014-2015 would have, OKC is a different team now and wasn't even healthy for most of that year.

In general using regular season matchups as a barometer for what is going to happen in the postseason is flawed to me, very few opponent specific adjustments made over an 82 game season, benches are longer, intensity isn't the same, etc etc. It's just a different game. That's just something I've personally never put much value into, but to each their own.

NBA is history is littered with teams that went 3-0 or 4-0 vs opponents in the regular season and it meant absolutely nothing come playoff time.

The Thunder were the 11th best defensive team in the league in the regular season, I think we can safely say that valuing that statistic would lead one astray. They're the most equipped team to defend GS in the entire league.
 

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It's not so much it is a bad matchup stylistically, that sort of implies that OKC is not an elite team but just matches up well.

The reason they matchup well has more to do with the fact they're really, really good.
 

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OKC is probably the most physically talented team in the NBA and now all their players are playing at the top of their game, and Donovan seems like an awesome coach. Tough to overcome all that.

GSW didn't even tax their players during the regular season, nobody played a lot of minutes and their top players are all young. To say going for 73 wins is the reason is idiotic. Even if they had taxed their players with huge minutes there is so many days are the first two rounds they would have been able to fully recoperate anyway.
 

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I don't see what relevance 2014-2015 would have, OKC is a different team now and wasn't even healthy for most of that year.

In general using regular season matchups as a barometer for what is going to happen in the postseason is flawed to me, very few opponent specific adjustments made over an 82 game season, benches are longer, intensity isn't the same, etc etc. It's just a different game. That's just something I've personally never put much value into, but to each their own.

Come on bro. I know you know sports terminology better than that. It can't be that different on East and West coast. Generally speaking when "matchup" is used in basketball or "mismatch" there is a clear lopsided favorite. When Lebron is being guarded by JJ Redick. Easy mismatch. GSW and OKC team's have been the same for two season. There was no mismatch this season or last season. Its just consistent.

2014-15 season
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578810
2015-16 season
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400828798

GSW had won 5 of 6 games. How is that a bad matchup for your team when you win 5 of the last 6 meetings? Again, plain and simple, the matchup isn't the reason for OKC's 3-1 lead. The relevance of referring to last season is just extending what already happened for this season. Like you said, obviously it does not always matter come playoff time. But regular season meetings is all we have to compare, before now.
 

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I think we're just talking in circles and getting too into semantics. I think you are conflating "matchup well with GS" with "It's a mismatch". Other than that I don't put too much into those regular season meetings, I don't really disagree with anything you say. Obviously sometimes there is relevant info to be pulled from regular season, sometimes there isn't. No 1 size philosophy fits all.

When people say OKC is a bad matchup or matches up well, they just mean they're the best team in the league that has he size, athleticism and versatility to match up with the Warriors on the defensive end. They're the best offensive rebounding team in the league which makes going small lineups harder. They can switch the pick and rolls rather than have to trap, Westbrook at his highest level is as good as you could be guarding Curry and if you're not hitting 3's then those long rebounds off the rim lead to Westbrook in transition and nobody is better than him at that. Defense creating offense.

I don't think people think OKC is LeBron and GS is JJ Redick. Just that in their vastly improved state, they obviously present them some problems that other teams wouldn't be able to.
 

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