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While Iraq had no WMD, no Al Qaeda link, no threat. Turns out Iran had the pre-9/11 Iran-Al Qaeda link according to the 9/11 commission. Nice going Bush, ya bum.
 

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YES!! I, like all americans want to go after the people that were behind 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but they sure have a hell of alot of oil. GAMEFACE, are you starting to get it now?
 

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Chuck,

Why don't we just completely take control of all the oil in the mideast, why are we paying for it?. Why didn't we just take kuwait and be done with it? Are you starting to get reality? I do believe Iran could be next if they don't get squared away by January.
 

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>> why are we paying for it?.
We barely do.

Check out the rest of the world, Sherlock.
 

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Lander your leftist clown buddies bitch and moan when the price approaches 2.00 and now you seem to think we pay too little, which is it? I know we pay very low fuel prices compared to the rest of the world. That's exactly why I don't bitch about it. Quite a bit of our fuel cost are taxes also.
 

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Lander your leftist clown buddies bitch and moan when the price approaches 2.00 and now you seem to think we pay too little, which is it? I know we pay very low fuel prices compared to the rest of the world. That's exactly why I don't bitch about it. Quite a bit of our fuel cost are taxes also.
 

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Lander your leftist clown buddies bitch and moan when the price approaches 2.00 and now you seem to think we pay too little, which is it? I know we pay very low fuel prices compared to the rest of the world. That's exactly why I don't bitch about it. Quite a bit of our fuel cost are taxes also.
 

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GAMEFACE....could you repeat what you just said?
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Man, you gotta get help for that stuttering problem..
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First off, I'm not a leftist.
First off, I'm not a leftist.
First off, I'm not a leftist.

Second off, I believe that our taxes are unjust and extreme, but it could be worse -- we could have Canada's taxes or some of the Europeans.

Second off, I believe that our taxes are unjust and extreme, but it could be worse -- we could have Canada's taxes or some of the Europeans.

Second off, I believe that our taxes are unjust and extreme, but it could be worse -- we could have Canada's taxes or some of the Europeans.

That's not to say that their respective governments aren't better in many other regards, such as personal freedoms because they certainly are.

That's not to say that their respective governments aren't better in many other regards, such as personal freedoms because they certainly are.

That's not to say that their respective governments aren't better in many other regards, such as personal freedoms because they certainly are.
 

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"That's not to say that their respective governments aren't better in many other regards, such as personal freedoms because they certainly are."

And healthcare, and social insurance, and provisions for the disallowed, and democratic procedures, and international affinity (the europian union as a case in point), and cultural institutions (europian cinema, art and music etc.), and safety and security (curiously enough that ghost figure bin laden in neither after sweden, nor france, nor italy or greece), and crime rates (no gun proud gun totting lunatics), and cuisine (no crap toxin and fat laden macdonalds, and little or none at all gm crops), and environmental protection (no buying off "points" from third world countries to quadruple polution and toxic waste, not constantly undermining and boycotting world environmetal treaties and councils), and, and, and...
 

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Jackdee,

You'd make a good U.S. citizen.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> and cultural institutions (europian cinema, art and music etc.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that your personal opinion? If so, there's no way to prove or disprove such a theory.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>safety and security (curiously enough that ghost figure bin laden in neither after sweden, nor france, nor italy or greece) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Al qaeda

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> crime rates (no gun proud gun totting lunatics) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm a gun toting lunatic. However, unless you give me a reason to use the weapon, I won't.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>and cuisine (no crap toxin and fat laden macdonalds, and little or none at all gm crops) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I stayed in Saint Cloud 4 years ago I saw more than one McDonalds. Maybe they were all Americans inside there? Instead of an Atkins diet maybe people should start eating the French diet?

Breakfast: A couple of croissants and coffee
Lunch: Mousse de Foies de Volaille
Dinner: Quiche or maybe Pate

Those pounds will just melt off.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> and environmental protection (no buying off "points" from third world countries to quadruple polution and toxic waste <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd say that "points" were purchased from first world countries, too and saying quadruple the pollution is being kind.
 

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Some rather funny things from some California politicians.

Taken from Channel 4's web site in San Francisco:

SAN FRANCISCO (BCN) -- U.S. Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer held a joint news conference in San Francisco Tuesday morning to call attention to the struggle to renew Feinstein's federal assault weapons ban, which is set to expire Sept. 13.

The ban was Feinstein's response to the tragedy that occurred 11 years ago this week in which a man opened fire with an assault weapon at 101 California St., killing eight people and injuring six.

It was signed into law 10 years ago by former President Bill Clinton as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, but Feinstein said today prospects for its renewal are bleak.

"The president of the Unites States has said he will sign this legislation if it reaches his desk," she said.

However, while the ban has 52 votes in its favor in the Senate, it is unlikely to pass in the House of Representatives, Feinstein said.

Feinstein and Boxer were flanked by Steve Sposato and Carol Kingsley, who lost their spouses in the 101 California St. incident. Boxer said one of her son's best friends was also killed in the assault.

Sposato held up one of four assault weapons on display at the news conference, saying that a similar weapon claimed the life of his wife, Judy Jones Sposato, leaving his daughter Megan, now 11, without a mother.

Kingsley, whose husband Jack Berman was killed, urged California residents to ask their friends and family in other states to persuade their legislators to support renewal of the ban.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newson weighed in as well, saying that seven of the more than 50 people murdered in San Francisco this year have been killed by bullets from assault weapons, including San Francisco police Officer Isaac Espinosa, who was fatally shot with an AK-47 in the city's Bayview District in April.

"These truly are weapons of choice for these young men who are out there on the streets doing these killings," Newsom said.

San Francisco Police Chief Heather Fong said police have confiscated three assault weapons in the past 10 days alone.

Boxer said that since the assault weapons ban was passed a decade ago, assault weapon use has decreased by 45 percent.

Feinstein said the ban has resulted a two-thirds decrease in the numbers of shootings using assault weapons. She also said that "by every poll" three-quarters of Americans support the assault weapon ban, as do 60 percent of gun-owning families.

National Rifle Association spokeswoman Kelly Hobbs, however, said statistics given by supporters of the renewal should be taken with a grain of salt.

"The difference between 2004 and 1994 is that most Americans understand banning these firearms has no effect on crime," Hobbs said.

Hobbs cited a 1997 study by the Urban Institute, commissioned in part by the U.S. Department of Justice, as one indication that the ban was ineffective.

The study, which only took into account one year of post-ban data, showed a slight drop in gun murders, but did not conclusively prove that the drop was attributable to the assault weapon ban.

Hobbs claimed that it is the criminals, not the assault weapons, that are the problem behind violent crime and that law-abiding gun owners use assault weapons for legitimate purposes including sports and target shooting.

The fate of the ban, she said, is "an extremely important issue to our 4 million members," she said.

Feinstein accused the gun lobby, which she called "very powerful," of using its political clout to sway legislators.

If the ban is not renewed, Feinstein said she would spend next year fighting to pass a new ban similar to the original. "We'll launch a nationwide effort to get it passed," she said.

Ouch! Their sale to private citizens was banned yet it's the weapon of choice for delinquents? Hmm, let's just extend that ban so we can protect our people. Yee-haw!!
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We only get 11% of our oil from Saudi,anyway.

Iran is on the list.That country may be able to fall with out a shot fired by the US.
We went to Iraq because according to Bill Clinton,John,Kerry,John Edwards,the UN, and Bush. Iraq had WMD and had violated 17 un resolutions and was a sworn enemy of the US.
President Bush told everyone right after 9/11 that the war on terror would be a long and difficult war.
 

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Many still don't get it. Bush attacked Iraq BECAUSE they didn't have WMDS. A burgular isn't going to rob a house when he knows the owner has lots of guns to protect himself. You don't see him going after that fellow dwarf in North Korea do you?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bulldog77:
Many still don't get it. Bush attacked Iraq BECAUSE they didn't have WMDS. A burgular isn't going to rob a house when he knows the owner has lots of guns to protect himself. You don't see him going after that fellow dwarf in North Korea do you?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great point. He also miscalculated the resistence. Thought these guys would roll out the red carpet and pronounce him King.
 

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A continuous war? Against who? Where? Some people just don't get it. Bush has done more harm than Al-Qaeda will ever do. That clueless moron made Osama Bin Laden a prophet. Bin Laden has said all along the "crusaders will invade our homeland". Now we have a billion muslims ready to kill americans with their non-stop suicide missions.
 

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