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<!-- Deck -->[font=times new roman, times, serif]The rumor is flying around the globe. Was the president wired during the first debate?[/font]

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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oct. 8, 2004 | [/font] <!-- end default pre content -->[font=times new roman, times, serif]Was President Bush literally channeling Karl Rove in his first debate with John Kerry? That's the latest rumor flooding the Internet, unleashed last week in the wake of an image caught by a television camera during the Miami debate. The image shows a large solid object between Bush's shoulder blades as he leans over the lectern and faces moderator Jim Lehrer.

The president is not known to wear a back brace, and it's safe to say he wasn't packing. So was the bulge under his well-tailored jacket a hidden receiver, picking up transmissions from someone offstage feeding the president answers through a hidden earpiece? Did the device explain why the normally ramrod-straight president seemed hunched over during much of the debate?

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Bloggers are burning up their keyboards with speculation. Check out the president's peculiar behavior during the debate, they say. On several occasions, the president simply stopped speaking for an uncomfortably long time and stared ahead with an odd expression on his face. Was he listening to someone helping him with his response to a question? Even weirder was the president's strange outburst. In a peeved rejoinder to Kerry, he said, "As the politics change, his positions change. And that's not how a commander in chief acts. I, I, uh -- Let me finish -- The intelligence I looked at was the same intelligence my opponent looked at." It must be said that Bush pointed toward Lehrer as he declared "Let me finish." The green warning light was lit, signaling he had 30 seconds to, well, finish.


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Hot on the conspiracy trail, I tried to track down the source of the photo. None of the Bush-is-wired bloggers, however, seemed to know where the photo came from. Was it possible the bulge had been Photoshopped onto Bush's back by a lone conspiracy buff? It turns out that all of the video of the debate was recorded and sent out by Fox News, the pool broadcaster for the event. Fox sent feeds from multiple cameras to the other networks, which did their own on-air presentations and editing.

To watch the debate again, I ventured to the Web site of the most sober network I could think of: C-SPAN. And sure enough, at minute 23 on the video of the debate, you can clearly see the bulge between the president's shoulder blades.

Bloggers stoke the conspiracy with the claim that the Bush administration insisted on a condition that no cameras be placed behind the candidates. An official for the Commission on Presidential Debates, which set up the lecterns and microphones on the Miami stage, said the condition was indeed real, the result of negotiations by both campaigns. Yet that didn't stop Fox from setting up cameras behind Bush and Kerry. The official said that "microphones were mounted on lecterns, and the commission put no electronic devices on the president or Senator Kerry." When asked about the bulge on Bush's back, the official said, "I don't know what that was."

So what was it? Jacob McKenna, a spyware expert and the owner of the Spy Store, a high-tech surveillance shop in Spokane, Wash., looked at the Bush image on his computer monitor. "There's certainly something on his back, and it appears to be electronic," he said. McKenna said that, given its shape, the bulge could be the inductor portion of a two-way push-to-talk system. McKenna noted that such a system makes use of a tiny microchip-based earplug radio that is pushed way down into the ear canal, where it is virtually invisible. He also said a weak signal could be scrambled and be undetected by another broadcaster.

Mystery-bulge bloggers argue that the president may have begun using such technology earlier in his term. Because Bush is famously prone to malapropisms and reportedly dyslexic, which could make successful use of a teleprompter problematic, they say the president and his handlers may have turned to a technique often used by television reporters on remote stand-ups. A reporter tapes a story and, while on camera, plays it back into an earpiece, repeating lines just after hearing them, managing to sound spontaneous and error free. <SUM>

Suggestions that Bush may have using this technique stem from a D-day event in France, when a CNN broadcast appeared to pick up -- and broadcast to surprised viewers -- the sound of another voice seemingly reading Bush his lines, after which Bush repeated them. Danny Schechter, who operates the news site MediaChannel.org, and who has been doing some investigating into the wired-Bush rumors himself, said the Bush campaign has been worried of late about others picking up their radio frequencies -- notably during the Republican Convention on the day of Bush's appearance. "They had a frequency specialist stop me and ask about the frequency of my camera," Schechter said. "The Democrats weren't doing that at their convention."

Repeated calls to the White House and the Bush national campaign office over a period of three days, inquiring about what the president may have been wearing on his back during the debate, and whether he had used an audio device at other events, went unreturned. So far the Kerry campaign is staying clear of this story. When called for a comment, a press officer at the Democratic National Committee claimed on Tuesday that it was "the first time" they'd ever heard of the issue. A spokeswoman at the press office of Kerry headquarters refused to permit me to talk with anyone in the campaign's research office. Several other requests for comment to the Kerry campaign's press office went unanswered.

As for whether we really do have a Milli Vanilli president, the answer at this point has to be, God only knows.

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Doubt it seriously and you can expect everything from gay affairs to pregnancy by space aliens storys to be coming up in the next 3 weeks but i will say this......IF someone WAS feeding him answers he should fire that STUPID m.f. today!!!! and that goes double for that moronic woman that was on o'reilly last night saying she was BUSH'S debate advisor...she hasn't got a clue and sounded to me like a demo plant!
 

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Doubt it seriously and you can expect everything from gay affairs to pregnancy by space aliens storys to be coming up in the next 3 weeks but i will say this......IF someone WAS feeding him answers he should fire that STUPID m.f. today!!!! and that goes double for that moronic woman that was on o'reilly last night saying she was BUSH'S debate advisor...she hasn't got a clue and sounded to me like a demo plant!
Yes, it appears that Bush is hanging out with the wrong crowd.
 

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Then HOW does one explain that BIG RECTANGULAR BULGE behind his back???

Or was he he just happy to know that Fishhead was watching??? :toothless

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.....and this is related to sports betting, how? Move it to the rubber room along with the other BS.
:increible The Shrink isn't exempt from the Rubber Room is he?
 

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hanover,

I am the FOUNDER of this site and have a large say so in what stays here. If you don't agree, then don't continue reading this thread, ok?

Given what's at STAKE tonight, I feel it belongs....
 

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.....and this is related to sports betting, how? Move it to the rubber room along with the other BS.
:increible The Shrink isn't exempt from the Rubber Room is he?
HANOVER- Betting on the PRESIDENTIAL OUTCOME is a HUGE betting topic...............bigger than you could ever imagine probably.
 

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Ooh, I pissed him off. Don't worry Shrink, Kerry is looking good. Besodes, I think your posts are entertaining.
 

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hanover,

It takes much more than your last post to piss me off. Now if I lose my Kerry bet, then I will be mad...

And, as Fishhead so astutely pointed out, I know of quite a few gamblers that have serious coin on this election, including me...

Ken
 

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I think the hope of cashing that ticket has you grasping for straws...you dont seriouly think that the president would need a BIG HUGE transmitter strapped to his back to get communication from someone do you? you don't think j.kerry wouldn't have noticed it do you?...ok ill take that back he is pretty clueless to the obvious....or thinks we are:)

in todays world he could have something no larger than a credit card do what this story implys...but still wouldnt there be a wire to his ear? do you think that thing had a speaker? just blasting out on stage? what about when it was over...people milling about the stage....noone would notice it??? this is ridiculous.....kinda like ughhh well kerrys campaign:neenee:

anyways i hate to hear you went large on that bet...because despite kerrys recent surge in the popular vote ....in the swing states and the electoral vote its still looking very good for bush..:heh:
 

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PPP- CMON!

Bush was over -200 a few days ago!!

If you lay any price on Bush over -120, I have some swampland to sell you in Florida cheap.

He may very well win the election, it is a complete toss-up as I write this..........WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU LAY ANYTHING OVER -120????

THE LINE IS COMING DOWN.........BET IT LATER IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY!
 

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ProPoker,

It all comes doen to what sources you review and give credence to. For example, I have been following lots of different websites to try and gain a feel for who is actually ahead. The one below has had Bush in the lead every day until now. Take a look and feel free to comment....

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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I never met a man yet that went broke taking +190 and laying -140!
 

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This election is already likely to be rigged more so than any Harlem Globetrotter basketball game.

To bad for the World.
 

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ProPoker,

It all comes doen to what sources you review and give credence to. For example, I have been following lots of different websites to try and gain a feel for who is actually ahead. The one below has had Bush in the lead every day until now. Take a look and feel free to comment....

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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great site Ken I will keep an eye on this site...still many states uncertain
 

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Fish will probably end up selling you my swampland in Florida. In any event he'll be in a position to buy it after this election is over. On the other hand it probably won't be for sale after this election is over.:party:
 

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JONES- i am thoroughly convinced you have a drinking and gambling problem.

Been assoiciated with many such as yourself and know the warning signs.

Best wishes
FISH
 

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Mr. Jones,

After reading Fishhead's response and reviewing ALL of your posts here at THE RX, I am also convinced that you have a serious drinking and gambling problem...

The first step to recovery my friend is to actually ADMIT that you are POWERLESS over your addictions and that your life has become UNMANAGEABLE...

The good news is that Fishhead and I are here for you if you need us and just take it ONE DAY AY A TIME to get on the road to recovery which you so desparately need...

Our prayers and thoughts go out for you and your family....

THE SHRINK
 

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Bill O Reilly said on his program that if bush doesnt win this debate, he will lose the presidency.

O'Reilly says this election is coming down to Ohio, and the weeks before the debate Bush held an 9 point lead in ohio.. after the debate it was dead even.

And someone said debates dont matter :think:

Here's hoping to Bush falling on his face, again. wired or not

PS- what does that say for the people helping him.. He normally is a moron, but with people feeding him answers he came off even worse.
 

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