Did anyone know that, Ken ‘The Shrink’ Weitzner, was featured in a movie "The Best of it" ?

[Enfuego]

Not sure what you're trying to say ??

I would believe that Ken & Jackie chose to leave without involving anyone else. and even if they did, you don't believe someone can lie about it.

I'm saying your assertion extended families are not involved in the witness protection program is not always true.

Is it your claim Shrink and Jackie disappeared on their own or in witness protection?

 

[Betallsports]

I'm saying your assertion extended families are not involved in the witness protection program is not always true.

Is it your claim Shrink and Jackie disappeared on their own or in witness protection?

I never said they weren't involved .... You said ..

Originally Posted by Enfuego

Fourth, his family would surely know about it and have to lie.

I said .........

You're so Wrong on #4. The only time Family Knows you are going into the witness protection program is if THEY are included. or of course it gets leaked.

Ken & Jackie could say Don't include them, I don't want them to know. Or they can ask the Feds to Include them

 

[Betallsports]

I'm saying your assertion extended families are not involved in the witness protection program is not always true.

Is it your claim Shrink and Jackie disappeared on their own or in witness protection?

My Opinion is the Feds Help them

 

[Enfuego]

My Opinion is the Feds Help them

Very interesting. Would love to know more some day.

 

[valium]

You're so Wrong on #4. The only time Family Knows you are going into the witness protection program is if THEY are included. or of course it gets leaked.

#1 can be done, it's done all the time.
same with #2

Have you read about #3, were the funeral director did not view the bodies ? Closed Casket ....

a nice Jewish boy getting cremated. but more and more are nowadays

as far as the Feds and any deal, I'm sure there was one ( if it really happened the way I believe it did )

There's no need to Cut the Sh*T, something Major went down after he "Died"
There was a chain of events that happened afterwards, and it all makes sense.

bottom line to me, and I'm not alone on this. If Ken had killed himself, and not have taken Jackie with him, I would believe it more.
unless of course if she was sick, and nobody knew it.

unlike Ken, Jackie had a lot to live for. 2 Great Sons and 5 grandchilden
Ken owed a lot of money, and even though I don't believe he would have been killed over it, nobody would have touched Jackie over it.

So you think Jackie chose to go underground with Ken and leave behind her biological sons and grand children? The feds put people in the witness protection program all the time but they don't participate in a hoax of suicide of the two people they put in the program. The feds are going to do this elaborate plan to bust bookmakers and confiscate cash? They don't go to those detailed plans of faking deaths for hitmen that have murdered many.
Those close to the situation always know when someone has turned and go into witness program.
He was probably talking to the feds and giving info to them and got in over his head betting and decided to try and get out by trying to bet large and win it back. (which we all know almost never works when you are in that situation) That didn't work and the guilt of owing money he can't pay and talking to the feds got to him.
i can't explain how he talked Jackie into joining him either by committing suicide or faking his death. He was a shrink though and could manipulate people better than most.

 

[Betallsports]

So you think Jackie chose to go underground with Ken and leave behind her biological sons and grand children? The feds put people in the witness protection program all the time but they don't participate in a hoax of suicide of the two people they put in the program. The feds are going to do this elaborate plan to bust bookmakers and confiscate cash? They don't go to those detailed plans of faking deaths for hitmen that have murdered many.
Those close to the situation always know when someone has turned and go into witness program.
He was probably talking to the feds and giving info to them and got in over his head betting and decided to try and get out by trying to bet large and win it back. (which we all know almost never works when you are in that situation) That didn't work and the guilt of owing money he can't pay and talking to the feds got to him.
i can't explain how he talked Jackie into joining him either by committing suicide or faking his death. He was a shrink though and could manipulate people better than most.

Not really a Shrink, he never passed his boards
but he was a manipulator...

Yeah like I said, if it was Ken alone, I could understand it better.

 

[dnf0027]

wow, this is wild.

So Hache, you 100% know the truth and what's up currently?

 

[C.P.]

This whole thing Fascinates me....

I hope they are well...

as I don't wish any ill will on people...

Well, maybe BAS Mike's phone...just saying...

 

[Enfuego]

So you think Jackie chose to go underground with Ken and leave behind her biological sons and grand children? The feds put people in the witness protection program all the time but they don't participate in a hoax of suicide of the two people they put in the program. The feds are going to do this elaborate plan to bust bookmakers and confiscate cash? They don't go to those detailed plans of faking deaths for hitmen that have murdered many.
Those close to the situation always know when someone has turned and go into witness program.
He was probably talking to the feds and giving info to them and got in over his head betting and decided to try and get out by trying to bet large and win it back. (which we all know almost never works when you are in that situation) That didn't work and the guilt of owing money he can't pay and talking to the feds got to him.
i can't explain how he talked Jackie into joining him either by committing suicide or faking his death. He was a shrink though and could manipulate people better than most.

This is my feelings on the matter exactly. Sometimes in life things don't make sense.

 

[Dante]

Yeah, Tony was a pretty nice guy, didn't know the other Son. Also many don't know that Ken was Not their biological father, But Raised them as his Own

Anyway I'm not trying to Bash them, I'm not trying to bring up bad memories, especially with it coming up to 8 years this month.

Like VD said, You and Hache probably know him better because you worked for/with him. I knew him at a Different point in his life
I Personally didn't have any problems with him, I enjoyed talking to him, had a lot of late night conversations with him.

The Whole thing is Sad, Very Sad for the Family.

Yep .. I think I knew him pretty much from day maybe hache also .. was a different time.. the first time I met him at the first bash was at a black jack table at the GN..the first Head mod some may know Patrick mcirish was there too.... Shrink was betting I think 500$ and doubled down on a 10 .. caught a 9 dealer drew to 18 .. then he turned around to see me and knew I was Dante and he said I know you will be good luck hahaha ..good memories. He invited me up to the penthouse that the GN had he had the best room and I remember him placing a big bet on Green Bay that day .. not sure they won or not

 

[Buster]

Just finished watching on Hulu...The 12.00 deal for a whole year has already been more than satisfied...I thought movie was great,but I would guarantee there are many more stories by some on here that would be much more entertaining on the bookmakers side...
Character ratings in my opinion only...

1) Dink...100% legit guy...Great performance!
2) Of course Lem Banker...Would have been a joy to know him back in the day...
3,4,5) All of the rest and hard to tell who is the worst...
Vegas Runner trying to act like a big shot...
Alan Boston is obviously mentally ill...
Shrink nothing more needs to be said...And he and his hanger on minions such as Mofome and Okstate cowboy poster while neither really featured or even in movie for a minute or 2 both come across as fanboys and probably sucked his dick a time or 2...