Wabash can shake it anyway he wants, the fact of the matter is his argument is ridiculous and has been from the start. I haven't had a car that I've gotten less than 200k miles on and my last one was nearing 300k, so I think I know a thing or two about maintaining a car. I gave an example based on the bullshit that was going on with the "cash for clunkers" programs (i.e. people turning in perfectly good cars in running condition for a tax subsidy to buy a car the government wants you to purchase). Most people other than the lefties know the program was an abject failure. I could easily by a used car for $5-6k right now, with low mileage, that gets great gas mileage and would last for an additional 200k (no problem). It wouldn't be a hybrid and it would put his ridiculous cost analysis to shame. The batteries on those things are only rated up to 180k (warranty in all state except the Left coast is 100k), but to replace them, the retail cost is $4k. Most of the Prius owners go to Ebay for an after market battery that isn't warranted because they know it's too much to pay. A higher price car (say $24k, has higher insurance costs than a $5-6k car...a no brainer and good luck finding a used Prius). It also has higher registration costs. The maintenance on my last car (a Camry) was never anything major (if you maintain your car, it usually isn't on one of the Japanese cars and I suspect most American cars now also). Most of the maintenance (with the exception of the battery is similar...I think Edmunds rates it basically a wash). Bump my example to the 28-30 mpg range and it still kicks a Prius' ass on a cost comparison (that's if you don't have to replace that battery...if you do, you're really fucked, LOL). I also laugh at all the examples of claims that the gas mileage is over-rated. The funniest of which was the lawyer that won the court case in Torrance (albeit not a Prius, but funny nonetheless). Why this clown can't just admit he bought the car so he could pat himself on the back and say he was a disciple of Obama is beyond me. Fuck, you go hug a tree already. 
hno:
California woman wins Civic Hybrid lawsuit against Honda
Heather Peters sued Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the gas mileage she was getting in her Honda Civic Hybrid, which was around 20 miles per gallon less than Honda had advertised. After two days of testimony, Commissioner Doug Carnahan sent his 26-page decision to both Peters and Honda, with a ruling in favor of Peters and $9,687 awarded in damages. That's just short of the $10,000 maximum that can be won in small-claims court.
In the decision, Carnahan wrote "At a bare minimum Honda was aware ... that by the time Peters bought her car there were problems with its living up to its advertised mileage." He went further, indicating that he found Honda to have committed fraud, but not intentional fraud.
According to a report in the Associated Press, Honda's EPA certification engineer said Honda "was required to post a sticker with the Environmental Protection Agency's estimate of the highest mileage the car could get." (In a previous report from Automotive.com he was characterized as saying that "automakers had no option but to adhere to the federal testing procedures.") While that claim was shot down by earlier precedent where it was shown that automakers had cited lower fuel economy numbers than the EPA in their advertising and marketing, it will be interesting to see whether this line in Carnahan's decision comes up again: "Honda's own testing should be the guideline for how it advertises its vehicles' mileages, not the generalized work ... done by the EPA."
And we can be certain it will since Honda has already stated its intention to appeal. And because the appeal will be held in Los Angeles County Superior Court, the way has been cleared for Honda to get its lawyers in the courtroom.
This gives other plaintiffs in the class action suit over Civic Hybrid mileage an option as to how to proceed. The last day to sign onto the settlement of that earlier suit is February 11, however, even if that case remains unfinished; a judge in San Diego won't rule until March on whether that settlement, which would see plaintiffs get a $100 to $200 and $1,000 discount on a new Honda and trial attorneys get $8.5 million, is fair.
hno:California woman wins Civic Hybrid lawsuit against Honda
Heather Peters sued Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the gas mileage she was getting in her Honda Civic Hybrid, which was around 20 miles per gallon less than Honda had advertised. After two days of testimony, Commissioner Doug Carnahan sent his 26-page decision to both Peters and Honda, with a ruling in favor of Peters and $9,687 awarded in damages. That's just short of the $10,000 maximum that can be won in small-claims court.
In the decision, Carnahan wrote "At a bare minimum Honda was aware ... that by the time Peters bought her car there were problems with its living up to its advertised mileage." He went further, indicating that he found Honda to have committed fraud, but not intentional fraud.
According to a report in the Associated Press, Honda's EPA certification engineer said Honda "was required to post a sticker with the Environmental Protection Agency's estimate of the highest mileage the car could get." (In a previous report from Automotive.com he was characterized as saying that "automakers had no option but to adhere to the federal testing procedures.") While that claim was shot down by earlier precedent where it was shown that automakers had cited lower fuel economy numbers than the EPA in their advertising and marketing, it will be interesting to see whether this line in Carnahan's decision comes up again: "Honda's own testing should be the guideline for how it advertises its vehicles' mileages, not the generalized work ... done by the EPA."
And we can be certain it will since Honda has already stated its intention to appeal. And because the appeal will be held in Los Angeles County Superior Court, the way has been cleared for Honda to get its lawyers in the courtroom.
This gives other plaintiffs in the class action suit over Civic Hybrid mileage an option as to how to proceed. The last day to sign onto the settlement of that earlier suit is February 11, however, even if that case remains unfinished; a judge in San Diego won't rule until March on whether that settlement, which would see plaintiffs get a $100 to $200 and $1,000 discount on a new Honda and trial attorneys get $8.5 million, is fair.
