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[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]Budget deficit tops $1 trillion for first time[/FONT]
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Jul 13, 8:20 PM (ET)

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WASHINGTON - The federal deficit has topped $1 trillion for the first time ever and could grow to nearly $2 trillion by this fall, intensifying fears about higher interest rates, inflation and the strength of the dollar.
The deficit has been widened by the huge sum the government has spent to ease the recession, combined with a sharp decline in tax revenues. The cost of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also is a major factor.
The soaring deficit is making Chinese and other foreign buyers of U.S. debt nervous, which could make them reluctant lenders down the road. It could also force the Treasury Department to pay higher interest rates to make U.S. debt attractive longer-term.
"These are mind-boggling numbers," said Sung Won Sohn, an economist at the Smith School of Business at California State University. "Our foreign investors from China and elsewhere are starting to have concerns about not only the value of the dollar but how safe their investments will be in the long run."
The Treasury Department said Monday that the deficit in June totaled $94.3 billion, pushing the total since the budget year started in October to $1.09 trillion. The administration forecasts that the deficit for the entire year will hit $1.84 trillion in October.
Government spending is on the rise to address the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and an unemployment rate that has climbed to 9.5 percent.
Congress already approved a $700 billion financial bailout for banks, automakers and other sectors, and a $787 billion economic stimulus package to try to jump-start a recovery. Outlays through the first nine months of this budget year total $2.67 trillion, up 20.5 percent from the same period a year ago.
There is growing talk among some Obama administration officials that a second round of stimulus may eventually be necessary.
That has many Republicans and deficit hawks worried that the U.S. could be setting itself up for more financial pain down the road if interest rates and inflation surge. They also are raising alarms about additional spending the administration is proposing, including its plan to reform health care.
President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have said the U.S. is committed to bringing down the deficits once the economy and financial sector recover. The Obama administration has set a goal of cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.
In the meantime, the U.S. debt now stands at $11.5 trillion. Interest payments on the debt cost $452 billion last year - the largest federal spending category after Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security and defense.
The overall debt is now slightly more than 80 percent of the annual output of the entire U.S. economy, as measured by the gross domestic product. During World War II, it briefly rose to 120 percent of GDP.
The debt is largely financed by the sale of Treasury bonds and bills.
Many private economists say the administration had no choice but to take aggressive action during the financial crisis.
"We have a deep recession hammering tax revenues and forcing the government to provide a lot of help to the economy," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. "But without this help, the downturn would be even more severe."
History shows the dangers of assuming too soon that economic downturns have ended.
President Franklin D. Roosevelt made that mistake in 1936. Believing the Depression largely over, he sought to reduce public spending and to balance the federal budget, but that undermined a fragile recovery, pushing the economy back under water in 1937.
Japanese leaders made a similar mistake in the 1990s when they temporarily withdrew government stimulus spending, prolonging Japan's recession into one that lasted a full decade.
Republicans in Congress are seizing on the deficit - and the persistence of the recession - to attack Democrats.
"Washington Democrats keep borrowing and spending money we don't have," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.
So far, interest rates have remained low.
This is partly because the Federal Reserve has kept a key short-term rate at a record near zero. Also, all the economic troubles in housing and the rest of the economy have depressed demand for credit by the private sector, meaning the government's borrowing costs are relatively low.
The benchmark 10-year Treasury security has risen by about a percentage point in recent weeks, but analysts note it is still trading at historically low levels of around 3.35 percent.
Geithner travels later this week to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, where he is expected to face questions about the U.S. deficit. As he did during a visit to China last month, Geithner will try to reassure investors in the Middle East that their U.S. holdings are safe from a calamitous bout of inflation.
The deficit of $1.09 trillion so far this year compares to an imbalance of $285.85 billion through the same period a year ago. The deficit for the 2008 budget year, which ended Sept. 30, was $454.8 billion, the current record in dollar terms.
Revenues so far this year total $1.59 trillion, down 17.9 percent from a year ago, reflecting higher unemployment, which cuts into payroll taxes and corporate tax receipts.
Under the administration's budget estimates, the $1.84 trillion deficit for this year will be followed by a $1.26 trillion deficit in 2010, and will never dip below $500 billion over the next decade. The administration estimates the deficits will total $7.1 trillion from 2010 to 2019.


But that's NOT a "promise"... :ohno: :toast:

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But that's NOT a "promise...No its a lie. 1st their estimates are 5 TRILLION less than anybody elses and the most reliable say its over 15 trillion BY 2010...And the stupid SOB wants to add another 5 trillion before everybody finds out he hates Christmas....So its ALL A DAMN LIE. He his breaking the country and he damn well knows it......Its all planned and in fact almost finished..
 

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How are these "projections" effected by the fact that " they didnt realize how bad the economy was" and that they were sure they could keep unemployment below 8%

What a joke , they cant even keep their stories straight

Grab a life raft boys, this ship is sinking
 

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a lot of glum faces in this thread

gentlemen, where does America go from here? the path of Japan?

Obama has 3 more years---if America's future is so screwed, what are its citizens going do to about it before the end of his term? a revolution? nothing?
 

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Very clumsy wording in the lead graphic

A "nosedive" would suggest something reducing in scope

Thus the "deficit" did not nosedive. The "balance" nosedived.

As we can see by the text within the actual story, which highlights the "soaring" deficit.
 

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Very clumsy wording in the lead graphic

A "nosedive" would suggest something reducing in scope

Thus the "deficit" did not nosedive. The "balance" nosedived.

As we can see by the text within the actual story, which highlights the "soaring" deficit.

The graphic shows a "nosedive" into red ink quite well actually.

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Well a nosedive (negative) of red ink (negative) would create a positive.

Double negatives are Fun!


Meanwhile, that graphic does gives us a ruefully nostalgic reminder of that short three years under WJ Clinton when the US federal budget enjoyed the only surplus it's ever shown during my 31 years as a registered voter.
 

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Well a nosedive (negative) of red ink (negative) would create a positive.

Double negatives are Fun!


Meanwhile, that graphic does gives us a ruefully nostalgic reminder of that short three years under WJ Clinton when the US federal budget enjoyed the only surplus it's ever shown during my 31 years as a registered voter.

What a run it was...25 years of prosperity like the world has never seen.

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Well a nosedive (negative) of red ink (negative) would create a positive.

Double negatives are Fun!


Meanwhile, that graphic does gives us a ruefully nostalgic reminder of that short three years under WJ Clinton when the US federal budget enjoyed the only surplus it's ever shown during my 31 years as a registered voter.


are you talking the budget Newt stuffed down his throat like some misplaced cigar?

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What a run it was...25 years of prosperity like the world has never seen.

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Exponential growth is fun! Especially for the guy who started this type of logic. MJ, in case you didnt notice all the growth was never real, its not tangible, if it was then the 7 trillion dollar haircut the dow took, where did it go? Who took it? LOL. Nobody, it just went the same way it came - it evaporated into thin air!
 

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Exponential growth is fun! Especially for the guy who started this type of logic. MJ, in case you didnt notice all the growth was never real, its not tangible, if it was then the 7 trillion dollar haircut the dow took, where did it go? Who took it? LOL. Nobody, it just went the same way it came - it evaporated into thin air!

Oh baloney...you and your over the top exaggerations about everything.

You were just whining about poor little Africa...that is what NOTHING looks like. That is what having nothing tangible looks like.

Geezus...get a clue while you enjoy the prosperity of sitting on your ass typing a post to send over the internet with a full belly and air conditioned comfort.

Yeah...it just evaporated all right...LOL! :):) d1g1t
 

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are you talking the budget Newt stuffed down his throat like some misplaced cigar?

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Sure...blame it on Newt.

All I know is I miss those days of federal budget surplus
 

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Oh baloney...you and your over the top exaggerations about everything.

You were just whining about poor little Africa...that is what NOTHING looks like. That is what having nothing tangible looks like.

Geezus...get a clue while you enjoy the prosperity of sitting on your ass typing a post to send over the internet with a full belly and air conditioned comfort.

Yeah...it just evaporated all right...LOL! :):) d1g1t

Are you mentally retarded? When did i ever say anything about poor Africa. If you had ANY reading comprehension i was basically calling them animals for not controlling their populations thus is why you have basically 90% of that continent in the shitter (see middle east as well). So with your logic, or lack their of, ill play along... are you saying that we have air conditioning and food on our tables because of Reagan???

:lol: @):) @):mad: :ohno:

Viva the last 25 years that brought us cool air and food.

And Jesus' is right, tell that to those retired folks on fixed incomes who just got half of their nest egg vaporized. Or to those who have been saving or having contributions in a 401k go via the route of the sabertooth tiger. Hey, maybe they can get it back, it might take another 20 years, then they will be even. <><>

I know you have a hard time with this subject so im not surprised. I know your not effected by it with all your wealth but alot of real people out there who work hard and save lost alot of money they figured was safe. Where did it go? Who took it, again it EVAPORATED. But hey, Obama sucks and Bush was right. Hey, your a Christian, what can i expect. And just for the record, you could be a Muslim or Hindu or any other tool to control your brain - its all the same. What does this have to do with this? You reject logic, therefore you keep banging your head into the wall that doesn't fit the way you want to see the world.
 

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When times get tough for a single family they cut back on spending and try to save every penny they can, but when we expand to the macro scale of an entire nation the correct procedure is to run up massive debt to spend your way out of the recession?
 

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Actually, when times get tough on a single family, many respond by creatively figuring out ways to increase bottom line revenue. And those legitimate and creative ideas often include spending money to facilitate a new enterprise and/or to expand opportunity in the present job(s).
 

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