CYBER SQUATTING OCCURING ONCE AGAIN TO SPORTS BOOKS

[THE SHRINK]

I was saddened to receive an email from one of the "elite" sports books in this industry, namely CRIS, who alerted us to the fact that once again, someone or some group of individuals is trying to make money from the mispellings of operators worldwide...

This act of cyber squatting is happening on almost everyone's website.

If anyone on this forum can help us figure out who this company is, we'd appreciate it....

Thanks,

THE SHRINK

Here is the email we received from CRIS when they gad someone go to one of the stolen websites...

"If you forget a period it goes to their website...

2 examples...

http://wwwbetcris.com

http://wwwthegreek.com



I chated with the live chat operator earlier today, here is a transcript of my conversation with her.


Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Miranda'

you: hello

you: where are u located??

Miranda: Hello, how may I help you today?

Miranda: Costa Rica

you: i live in CR do you have a local number?

you: hello?

Miranda: No, we do not

you: is anyone home?

you: i work at CRIS

you: did u know if you type

http://wwwbetcris.com it takes you to your site

Miranda: no I did not no

Miranda: know

you: or wwwwts.com or wwwthegreek.com and so forth

you: can i have a contact number to your boss

you: hello are u there??

Miranda: one moment please

you: may i have the contact telephone to your supervisor?

you: hello

Miranda: They told me the departement of marketing was experiencing on something, that everything wil be gone by monday, Thank You.

you: who is they

Miranda: the departement of marketing

you: where is your department of marketing

you: what company do you work for?

you: Miranda what is with the delay?

you: you r in Santa anna no?

Miranda: I am just a small employe. I don't have the autority to give you anymore informations, please contact them by e-mail, tahnk you

you: i understand --i'm just trying to get to the bottom of this-- and would like to be able to have a discussion with your boss if possible?

you: who is them?

Miranda: please contact them by e-mail,

you: who is them?"

Chat session has been terminated by the site operator.

[This message was edited by THE SHRINK on March 10, 2004 at 08:43 AM.]

 

[clevfan]

HERE'S YOUR CULPRIT:


Registrant: Saco Net work 4510 18e Avenue Montreal, Quebec h1x 2n7 Canada Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: FOOTBALLBETONSPORTS.COM Created on: 20-Sep-02 Expires on: 20-Sep-04 Last Updated on: 20-Sep-03 Administrative Contact: Montes, ALain casinoworld@msn.com JOC 4510 18e Avenue Montreal, Quebec h1x 2n7 Canada (514) 823-4264 Fax -- (514) 744-4447 Technical Contact: Montes, ALain casinoworld@msn.com JOC 4510 18e Avenue Montreal, Quebec h1x 2n7 Canada (514) 823-4264 Fax -- (514) 744-4447 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.CANDIDHOSTING.COM NS2.CANDIDHOSTING.COM

 

[Dante]

WOW.....scary stuff

 

[THE SHRINK]

Thank you Clevfan...

 

[Dante]

im telling you people..James bond 007 has NOTHING on clevfan

thanks for the info clevey

 

[clevfan]

AND HERE'S HIS COMPANY INFO IN MONTREAL:

2004-03-10 LE REGISTRAIRE DES ENTREPRISES
H:1:28:58 SYSTÈME CIDREQ

R-PU-U03-1 ÉTAT DES INFORMATIONS SUR UNE PERSONNE MORALE
INFORMATIONS GÉNÉRALES
======================

MATRICULE: 1149623861 NOM: LES RÉSEAUX SACO INC.



IMMATRICULATION : 2000-10-06
FORMATION : 2000-10-04 CONSTITUTION
LOCALITÉ : QUÉBEC

DERN DÉCL ANNL : 2004-03-05 2003 DEMANDE DISS/LIQ EN COURS: NON
MAJ ÉTAT INFO : 2004-03-05 TRANCHE EMPLOYÉS: ENTRE 6 ET 10
CESSATION PRÉVUE: CONTINUAT: TRANSFORM:
STATUT IMMATR : IM IMMATRICULÉ 2000-10-06
RÉSULTANTE :
FORME JURDQ : CIE COMPAGNIE

ADRESSE DOMICILE: 9825, RUE DE L'ACADIE, BUR. 108 CODE ******: H4N 2W2
MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC)


RÉG. CONSTITUTIF: 024 LOI SUR LES COMPAGNIES PARTIE 1A
RÉG. COURANT : 024 LOI SUR LES COMPAGNIES PARTIE 1A

ACTIVITÉS ÉCONOMIQUES
=====================

7799 COMMUNICATIONS


ADRESSE ******E
===============

DESTINATAIRE :

ADRESSE : 85, RUE ST-PAUL OUEST, BUREAU 40 CODE ******: H2Y 3V4
MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC)



PERSONNES LIÉES
===============
PERSONNES MANQUANTES: NON
NOM ET ADRESSE CODE ****** DÉTAIL PERSONNE
====================================== =========== ====================
CLERMONT, GENEVIÈVE ACTIONNAIRE

ACTIONNAIRE MAJORITA

1135, CHEMIN DE LA PERDRIOLE J0W 1J0
LAC-DES-ÎLES (QUÉBEC)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MONTES, ALAIN ADMINISTRATEUR
PRÉSIDENT


85, SAINT-PAUL OUEST, APP. 40 H2Y 3V4
MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


NOMS DE L'ASSUJETTI
===================

DATE MAJ INDEX DES NOMS: 2002-12-17


NOM DE L'ASSUJETTI DATE DÉBUT DATE FIN STATUT
====================================== ========== ========== ==========

LES RÉSEAUX SACO INC. 2000-10-04 EN VIGUEUR




-------- VERSIONS ÉTRANGÈRES --------
SACO NETWORKS INC.





DOCUMENTS MICROFILMÉS
=====================

DATE MAJ INDEX DOCUMENTS: 2003-09-12

TYPE DOCUMENTS DATE CAST IMAGE
===================================================== ========== ===== =======

103 DÉCLARATION ANNUELLE 2003 2004-03-05 0 000
19 DÉCLARATION MODIFICATIVE 2004-03-04 0 000
19 DÉCLARATION MODIFICATIVE 2003-08-27 5611 46 004
19 DÉCLARATION MODIFICATIVE 2003-02-14 5448 7 014
102 DÉCLARATION ANNUELLE 2002 2003-01-15 5400 33 031
101 DÉCLARATION ANNUELLE 2001 2002-12-17 5400 22 004
81 AVIS DE DÉFAUT (art. 29) 2002-05-23 5172 58 042
40 DÉCLARATION INITIALE 2001-01-03 4692 50 031
30 CERTIFICAT DE CONSTITUTION 2000-10-06 4606 3 019
17 DOCUMENTS ADMINISTRATIFS 2000-10-06 4599 6 041


AUTRES NOMS
===========

DATE MAJ INDEX DES NOMS: 2002-12-17


NOM DATE DÉBUT DATE FIN STATUT
====================================== ========== ========== ==========

RÉSEAUX SACO 2001-01-03 2002-12-17 ANTÉRIEUR




SACO NETWORKS 2001-01-03 2002-12-17 ANTÉRIEUR

 

[clevfan]

More proof that this is the guy:

Registrant: JcCapitals 4510 18e avenue Montreal, QC H1X 2N7 CA register@jccapitals.com +01.5148599068 +01.5148599068Domain Name: WWWBETCRIS.COMAdministrative & Technical Contact: Alain Montes JcCapitals 4510 18e avenue Montreal, QC H1X 2N7 CA register@jccapitals.com +01.5148599068 +01.5148599068Domain Name Servers: NS2.CANDIDHOSTING.COM NS1.CANDIDHOSTING.COM Created: August 3, 2003Modified: August 3, 2003 Expires: August 3, 2004

 

[clevfan]

Organization: JC Capitals Costa Rica Serge C. APBO 230-6150 Santa Anna, CR Phone: 514-745-5603 Email: support@jccapitals.com Registrar Name....: Register.com Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com Domain Name: JCCAPITALS.COM Created on..............: Thu, Feb 07, 2002 Expires on..............: Tue, Feb 07, 2006 Record last updated on..: Wed, Feb 25, 2004 Administrative Contact: JC Capitals Costa Rica Serge C. APBO 230-6150 Santa Anna, CR Phone: 514-745-5603 Email: support@jccapitals.com Technical Contact: JC Capitals Costa Rica Serge C. APBO 230-6150 Santa Anna, CR Phone: 514-745-5603 Email: support@jccapitals.com Zone Contact: JC Capitals Costa Rica Serge C. APBO 230-6150 Santa Anna, CR Phone: 514-745-5603 Email: support@jccapitals.com Domain servers in listed order: NS1.CANDIDHOSTING.COM 64.159.90.4 NS2.CANDIDHOSTING.COM 64.159.90.10

 

[Journeyman]

Clev you should have been an investigator!

 

[Fishhead]

Thanks Sherlock....sorry, Clev.

 

[newbie666]

ron

SACO NETWORKS 2001-01-03 2002-12-17 ANTÉRIEUR

 

[Sodium Pentethol V]

Shrink if you had an established site,

worldpokerexchange and soemone opened a site worldpoker,

how much would you think of that guy?

Or maybe you had a site tradesports and a guy did a joint partnership with a place named tradingsports?

They both are getting WTF they deserved, they both did the same exact thing as illustrated in my example,

first Sprio with the poker and second CRIS with the exchange.

 

[spidermonkey]

these are the same ****S also known as the EGO GROUP, they have been holding 3k of mine for over a year with no end in sight.

if you type 800-936-0777 into google you will get a list of the 'hundred's of sports books they operate, THEY ARE ALL NO PAY!!!!!

shrink the people behind this group are scammers and liars, i have talked to 'miranda' probably 100 times over the past year.

i think there was a thread by Voodoo 6 months or so ago that went into some more detail behind this group.

STAY AWAY FROM ANY BOOK THAT USES THAT PHONE NUMBER!!!!

 

[PanchoSanza]

Big shock that they are out of Montreal, scam capital of the world and home to the worlds biggest scammer himself.

 

[buddyboy]

wwts has/did own www.betcarib.com did they ever sell it back to carib? or are they still holding on to it?

 

[clevfan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
Clev you should have been an investigator!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

should have been?

 

[Journeyman]

You could be getting big bucks for your skills as a dirt digger lol! but maybe you are....See I would know this stuff if you ever decide to do the "Sitdown" interview I want...Can I book you as my next guest Clev?

 

[clevfan]

I don't think I could do the interview, that little *bleep* AITON would get on my nerves too much.

 

[Journeyman]

He should be banned!

...also I will not ask any sick questions....plenty of other good material Clev...you would have to be up for the "Stern like" questioning though...all in fun though....

 

[clevfan]

STERN LIKE QUESTIONING..........hell no