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I have said this before and I will say it again....

The customer service department at Cris APPEARS to be spiraling downward ever since their fearless leader left...

Once again, in my opinion, here is another example of a POSSIBLE screw up that degrades a regular customer of theirs who was treated in the following manner....

The email below was sent to TheRx.com TODAY, and I have changed only the name of the gambler because he asked for anonymity...

Like always, there are two sides to every story and we have yet to hear Cris's...

Feel free to respond...


"I have been a loyal fan of CRIS for many years, until today (August 21st, 2003). Allow me to explain:

I sent a Western Union cash transfer like I have always done around 45 minutes prior to the game I wanted to bet. For me this is standard practice of depositing money into my account. After calling in my control number, I was told at the very latest this should take 20 minutes to verify. Once again I just assumed it was standard procedure. After 20 minutes I called to place my bet and my money had not been cleared at that time. I called back and the rep who answered said I have nothing to worry about, and that I would have absolutely no problem getting in on the game I wanted. >From that moment on a gentleman named Gary handled the situation. He told me that the numbers didn't match. I had no clue what he was talking about. He suggested that I call Western Union to double check my control number. This made no sense to me whatsoever as I was starring at a print out of the transfer with the number clearly readable at the top right of the page. At this time the game was a minute from starting. I had asked him to write my bet down as I was to verify at his request what happened to the money I sent. HE REFUSED. I asked why and he replied and said you know why. Once again I had no clue as to what he was talking about. He went on to say that if the game wasn't going my way I would pull the money. It's amazing that one minute he is saying I didn't send the money and in the next minute he is telling me I did send it, and had the option to pull back the money if the game wasn't going my way. I went on to say the game is just starting and suggested that if this isn't cleared up in 5 minutes to nullify the bet. He said absolutely not. He told me that if the error was his fault, he would make it up to me. This is when it got scary. Well, let's say that I called Western Union and after giving the info, I was told that the money had already been picked up. It had been picked up when Gary was 100% sure that the numbers didn't match. When I called Gary he still was telling me the numbers didn't match. He checked again and finally saw that my transaction had been cleared into my account. I then said you kept telling me you will make it up to me. My game started you didn't allow me to make the bet which at this point I knew would win (just because that's the way it goes). In the 5 + years with CRIS, I have exchanged over one million dollars. 90% of my wagers are 1,000 bets. Gary offered me a 100 Bonus Play to make up for the mistake. He told me he didn't want me to make this a drawn out issue and I should take the 100 Bonus Play. I suggested that he take a look a my history of the way I deposit and play and then tell me again that a 100 Bonus Play would fix this problem. For what ever it is worth, my bet was going to be Boston on the run line at minus 1 1/2 +165 for 1,000. I 'm thinking this guy has cost me $1,650.00 and wants to make it up with a 100 Bonus Play. Now obviously he didn't know I was going to win the bet, so I am not suggesting that's why my money didn't clear. My point to this story is that after a great 5 year relationship, I expected a little more courtesy and respect from Gary. I also want to say I never once had any payment issues with CRIS. In this business "it's not what you do that people look at, it 's what you don't do that is recognized." I am sad to say my relationship with this outfit is over. I am glad that this happened on the heels of the football season. Gary told me I should take this up with Mickey tomorrow but before we hang up let me raise the Bonus Play to 150 to resolve this problem. If you say no he said, I can't make any guarantees that I can offer this to you again. I told him, I'll take my chances. I do not want to forget about this, as I want people not to get screwed the way I did. People say that there is 2 sides to every story, but I can tell you this, I will challenge and denial to this situation as all conversations are recorded. I hope Mickey listens to this conversation."

THANKS,
JAMES


[This message was edited by THE SHRINK on August 27, 2003 at 03:22 PM.]
 

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Maybe "James" should have sent the $$ earlier?
And would be he still be crying if the BoSox didn't cover?
 

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SHRINK YOUR GOING TO BAT FOR THIS SCAMMER AND YOU WOULDNT SPEAK UP AGAINST CASCADE.SURE HE WOULD HAVE PULLED THE DOUGH IF HE WAS LOSING F-CK THE LOYALTY ITS ALL OVER OFFSHORE ITS EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.I HAVE DEALT WITH MICKEY AND CRIS ON CREDIT AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY MICKEY IS A NICE GUY HE WOULDNT HAVE LET THIS RAT BASTARD PULL THIS CAPER.SHRINK WHY DIDNT THE GUY DEPOSIT THE MONEY 2 OR 3 HOURS EARLIER WHY DID HE WAIT UNTIL THE LAST 45 MINUTES WAS HE TRYING TO BUY POST ON MICKEY AND CRIS
 

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He will get paid for sure once Mickey comes in. It's only fair. It was the books fault for not being on the ball. Why should the player suffer? Fine, it could have lost too, I know, but as a gesture to the player, and the fact the player has a history with the book and a long term relationship, that is the least CRIS can do for him. It's more of a gesture, rather than the right thing to do. The book was disorganized here, and should show the player how sorry they are by putting in the 1650, or at least meet him halfway, and put 825, but I still say that the whole 1650 is what should be in his acct. If not, they lose a good long time customer. They will make it back with this kid over the NFL season.

Pay the kid CRIS, I know you will. It's the right thing to do..
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IMO the title of your thread is pretty harsh. I was waiting to read something far worse. On another note can you send this dipshit Beantown on a vacation
 

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DICKY W I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION TO YOU (WHO THE F-CK WOULD NAME THERE KID DICKY WHAT A F-CKING DICK NAME) IF THE NAME FITS YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE A DICK
 

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Dicky,

Why do you feel the title to this thread is too harsh?

I would expect a sports book who I have been a customer at for FIVE YEARS to treat me better than this!!!

To offer up a Bonus Play for $100 dollars, considering all the crap he went through is a disgrace...

Not to mention, the player is a dime bettor or more per game, who has given CRIS over one million dollaras in volume, according to the player of course..

I have put in a call and an email to Mickey to hear their side of the story as well..

But thus far, Mickey was not in and I haven't heard anything back to present Cris's side...

THE SHRINK
 

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In all honesty, i believe that the book acted the EXACT way that I feel that every handles situations like this.

If you cant send the money in at least 1 hour before the game or at least 90 minutes before, then you take your chances.

He never even mentions here if he told hte book the EXACT team whom he wanted to take.
 

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The key is the loyalty that this player has supposedly given to CRIS. If the figures are correct, then it was a bad call by CRIS.

But, their is usually 2 sides.
 

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It's true, maybe the guy never mentioned to the book who he wanted and is ONLY saying that he would have had Bos -1.5 +165. We have to hear both sides of the story. This kid could maybe not be telling the truth, or is not saying everything. Lets hear what CRIS has to say. I am willing to bet there is more to the story than we know. Maybe by the time it got through, the game had already started over 1 hr ago, we don't know. What's the truth here, what's not the truth? Bring on CRIS.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lander:
Maybe "James" should have sent the $$ earlier?
And would be he still be crying if the BoSox didn't cover?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pardon me If I am wrong,but it seems that you are always takin book's side?Home I m wrong.

As for the matter,I agree with Dicky,is not that big deal,and if someone has exchanged so many money,a mistake is acceptable at once.
If someone deals with dimes,maybe he is able to bet elsewhere?
 

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Shrink has overreacted on this issue. IN THIS DAY AND AGE, absolutely nothing wrong with what the book did.

At least they didnt accept the bet and THEN come back at the end and change the rules that the SHIT BOOK WSEX did

What WSEX did is 10000 times worse than what this book did!! Wsex had NO LIMITS on soccer bets and WSEX would have kept 100% of his money had he lost.
 

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playersonly,

Perhaps you may be right and I hope so, but given the recent history of what happened to another gambler with their loyalty program, I tend to think that CRIS should treat their loyal customers better than this...

I'd love to hear CRIS'S side to this story...

THE SHRINK
 

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Gary from CRIS said he did not have a bet before the game. Whats going on here? First WSEX gets blasted for reluctantly paying on a wager 80 times over the max, now a book is getting criticized for not paying on a wager that never was placed. My qestion would be why he is playing at CRIS after they were lambasted here on these forums for their poor cs and the way Mickey stole money out of people's accounts? I'm sure Mickey will clear this up as fast as he cleared up the rebate dollars he lifted from many post-up players. IMO CRIS owes him nothing. I also recommend the player to play at WSEX, they pay no matter what the player does.
 

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Chuck, WSEX had NO LIMITS whatsoever on soccer. Just on other sports.

They have the limit of $500 on internet bets to keep people from doublclicking bets that would be for much more money. Each bet must be ofr a different amount then the previous bet.
 

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