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So I had my first mugging experience last night. 3 guys, one behing me poking a knife into the small of my back, one in front to the left taking my watch off, and the third guy with a gun in front to the right. You know what is amazing about this? It happened as I was walking to a friends car parked at the corner coming out of the front entrance of the mall San Pedro. It was very public and people just watched. The security guard was also just watching instead of blowing his whistle, I understand he only had a night stick and they ahd a gun, but he could've blown the whistle. It wasn't so much the material things that I lost, but more so the experience I had to go through that bothers me. The Tico cops say, "yeah this happens near the mall" No investigation, no patrolling the area better, just file a complaint. What a phucking joke!

Anyone have any ideas what can be done about this, so it doesn't happen to someone else? I was thinking about going to the Tico Times and or the Canadian Embassy. I doubt anything can be done through these two options except creating awareness.
 

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Do what I do and always dress like a bum.Only other option is to get a gun and permit.
 

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lolol Thanks for trying to cheer me up. I think I did enough drinking last night afterwards to forget what happened for the rest of my life. I think i will just avoid places like that and stick to indoor locations or Escazu!

P.S. that would be funny if they would give me a lisence to carry a loaded weapon.
 

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Bro, sorry to hear that happened...at least nothing happened to you...follow the Judges advise...get a gun, shoot some new assholes into the next one who tries...then tell the cops to tell the families of those dead theives to file complaints...just like they told you...As far as the permit is concerned, have you ever seen Catch Me If You Can?
 

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Hey Ghost,

I hear that The Columbian boys work CHEAP down there buddy!

Spanks friend

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Ghost:
So I had my first mugging experience last night. 3 guys, one behing me poking a knife into the small of my back, one in front to the left taking my watch off, and the third guy with a gun in front to the right. You know what is amazing about this? It happened as I was walking to a friends car parked at the corner coming out of the front entrance of the mall San Pedro. It was very public and people just watched. The security guard was also just watching instead of blowing his whistle, I understand he only had a night stick and they ahd a gun, but he could've blown the whistle. It wasn't so much the material things that I lost, but more so the experience I had to go through that bothers me. The Tico cops say, "yeah this happens near the mall" No investigation, no patrolling the area better, just file a complaint. What a phucking joke!

Anyone have any ideas what can be done about this, so it doesn't happen to someone else? I was thinking about going to the Tico Times and or the Canadian Embassy. I doubt anything can be done through these two options except creating awareness. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
 

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Next time I am down there Judge I am spending all my free time with you to stay safe, hehe! Although I do believe I have no problem dressing like a bum
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Going for a gun in the above situation might
have got you killed.Often there is another
gent even farther behind who might have a gun
as well.You handled it well imo.
 

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Sorry to hear it ghost. That's one reason why most people prefer Officentro to Mall San Pedro, but you should still be able to go to the mall...

I agree, you handled it the right way. If you have a weapon and TRAINING IN HOW TO USE IT, that's a different story, and even then, is money worth getting killed, injured, or charged with a crime in a foreign country?

My advice, keep your cash inaccessible. I carry my roll out of the way, and a small amount (7- US one-dollar bills and 5- 2000 colones bills) in a moneyclip that I don't mind losing.

If you're held up, just throw the clip one way and run the other. If I will be visiting a questionable area, (almost never, but occasionaly) I will be armed, but never with a gun, and would never to anything but exactly as I'm told by a guy with a gun who only wants money.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judge Wapner:
Do what I do and always dress like a bum.Only other option is to get a gun and permit. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

CLEVER!
 

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I don't think you need to dress like a bum, but when in public never wear a nice watch or jewlry, never carry a briefcase and keep your cell and wallet in front pocket.

I stopped keeping anything remotely valuable in my Jeep, and yet it was broken into again this weekend (in front of my house) for a flash light and a dust vac. Third window I've had to replace in six months.
 

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It's UNBELIEVABLE how much crime in CR has risen in the last 3 or 4 years. There's not much you can do to avoid the muggings, except not leave your house. Sorry to hear that GHOST, and I hope it's the last time you go through that.

Christ, the party is SO OVER down there.
 

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Actually have always dressed like a bum,just happened to work out in my favor here and in NYC.
 

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WELL, THANK GOD YOUR O.K. FIRST OF ALL. SECONDLY I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE SHOT AND NOONE DOES ANYTHING (IN MIAMI THAT IS) . So why would it be any different here? You can talk to whomever you choose , diplomats, police, nothing is ever going to happen. Holmes, if you had a picture of the phucks , chances are the police wouldn't do anything. It is like the wild,wild west here and getting worse. Did I tell you I got into a fight with a fat taxi driver cause he tried to run my dog over. It is getting worse, but I don't think you and guns are a good mix. Then again I know guns a nd I are not. Take your bumps and bruises and move on. Shouldn't let it get you down. It probably won't be too long before I get jumped out here in the parking lot. The gaurds here will do the same thing I garantee it. It is bound to happen sooner or later.
 

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Aaargh, I have adopted the mentality that I am fine and nothing really bad happened. My back still is sore from whatever they poked me with and that's it. I am doing pretty good for being down here. Once here and once in Margarita....not that bad actually for 4 years. It's just sad that it can happen in such a public area, but there is nothing I can do and even if i could, I probably wouldn't....it's just material shit. Thanks for your condolences guys!
 

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Damn all my favorite vacation spots in Mexico and Costa Rica are going to crap. I might have to start going to Europe :mad:
 

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Europe Surpasses America--in Crime

By Morgan O. Reynolds, Published in the Wall Street Journal 19-10-98
The conventional wisdom is that the U.S. is the most crime-ridden of modern industrial democracies. Yet the truth is that in many respects we have less crime--and America's crime rate has been declining dramatically.

Property crimes represent about nine out of 10 serious crimes. The burglary rate in Australia is 40% higher than that in the U.S., in Canada 12% higher and in England and Wales 30% higher. Sweden and the Netherlands, despite their reputations as nearly crime-free, have burglary rates 35% and 84% greater than the U.S. Only a few nations, including France and Switzerland, have lower burglary rates than the U.S. The picture is much the same for auto theft.

Locking up criminals reduces crime.
What about crimes of violence? The picture is mixed, but the risk of minor violence is generally no higher in America than in other common law countries (i.e., descendants of the British legal system). The glaring exception is the U.S. murder rate, which is about six times higher than in other industrialized nations. But comparing a country with a diverse population such as the U.S. with other, largely homogenous populations ignores important demographic differences.

Half the murderers and victims in the U.S. are African-Americans, whose victimization rate is seven times that of whites. The white homicide rate in the U.S. is about twice that in Europe, though the gap has been closing because the U.S. murder rate has been falling.

This reflects a broader pattern: As our crime rates have fallen, serious crime rates in England have risen substantially, as a recent study from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics found. For example, victim surveys show that: The English robbery rate was about half the U.S. rate in 1981, but was 40% higher than America's in 1995. The English assault rate was slightly higher than America's in 1981, but more than double by 1995. The English burglary rate was half America's in 1981, but nearly double by 1995.

Why these dramatic increases in English crime rates, while Americans' lives and property grew safer? The obvious explanation has been too often downplayed or ignored: The U.S. has instituted tougher, more predictable punishment for crime. The study's authors attribute the trends they note to the increasing conviction rates and longer sentences meted out in the U.S., vs. the decreasing conviction rates and softer sentences in England and Wales. English conviction rates for rape, burglary, assault and auto theft have plunged by half or more since 1981, while the likelihood of serving prison time for committing a serious violent crime or a burglary has increased substantially in the U.S. Other relevant social trends have been moving in similar directions in both nations, so they cannot explain the divergent crime trends.

Social scientist Charles Murray points out that the England of 1954 operated on the assumption that the best way to keep crime down was to intervene early and sternly. Crime was very low, and the number of youths picked up by the police went down by about half as children matured from the early teens to their late teens. England today operates on the assumption that the way to deal with crime is to be caring and forgiving toward the young offender. Crime is very high, and the number of youths picked up by the police in the 1990s roughly triples from the early teens to the late teens.

For some time the U.S. criminal justice system also lacked the will or the ability to punish, especially in dealing with juveniles. For example, during the U.S. crime explosion in the 1960s and 1970s, the number of new commitments to prison by the courts for serious predatory crimes actually fell, to 37,000 in 1970 from 40,000 in 1960, while the number of serious crimes reported to the police nearly tripled, to 2.9 million from one million. As a result, the probability of imprisonment for committing a serious crime reported to the police plunged to 1.3% per crime in 1970 from 3.6% in 1960.

But in the past few years deterrence has reasserted itself and has driven crime down. Since 1993 in the U.S.: Murder has dropped 30% as the probability of going to prison for murder has risen 53%. Rape has decreased 14% as the probability of imprisonment has increased 12%. Robbery has decreased 29% as the probability of imprisonment has increased 28%. Burglary has decreased 18% as the probability of imprisonment has increased 14%. Moreover, once in prison, criminals are staying there longer. The median time served by those released has risen since 1993 for every category of serious crime except aggravated assault.

This doesn't mean "root causes" don't matter. Being born out of wedlock and raised in a fatherless household doubles the odds that a young male will become a criminal. But no matter how bad root causes may or may not be, a tough approach pays, especially over the long run. The growth of prison admissions eventually stopped America's rising crime rate and then began to push it back down.

England and Wales are going in the opposite direction. For the safety of their citizens and their property, England and other developed countries should begin the long--and expensive--road back to law and order. And the sooner the better.
 

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I once had a buddy down in new york city, he never called me by my name just "hillbily". My father taught me how to live off the land, his taught him how to be a business man. But he got stabbed in an alley with a switchblade knife, for 43 dollars my friend lost his life.........I'd like to spit some Beach Nut in that dudes eyes and shoot him with my old 45. Country folk can survive.


Hank Jr.
Interest is up, and the stock markets down,
and you only get mugged if you go down town.
 

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El Frijolero said:
I once had a buddy down in new york city, he never called me by my name just "hillbily". My father taught me how to live off the land, his taught him how to be a business man. But he got stabbed in an alley with a switchblade knife, for 43 dollars my friend lost his life.........I'd like to spit some Beach Nut in that dudes eyes and shoot him with my old 45. Country folk can survive.


Hank Jr.
Interest is up, and the stock markets down,
and you only get mugged if you go down town.


NICE, OLD SCHOOL FRIJOLERO.
"We say grace, we say ma'am, if you ain't into that, we don't give a damn"
 

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What is your point Darwin? I could have told you the US has very low crime rates, it is just the gun crime and media spin that scare people.

The point is that much of Latin American is allowing itself to be a pit of crime, Costa Rica included. What major city in all of Latin America is safer now than it was say 10 years ago? That is a sad, but unfortunately true development. I used to even go and spend many days in Mexico City, but that place has become downright scary and I don't know if I could muster up the courage anymore. I totally do what Judge says to do and dress like a local as best as I can, but even the middle class and low class is under siege now from kidnapping and assault. I still probably make cautious trips, but I have a lot more guile than most. I would say 95% of the people I know in the US are plain afraid of going if they see stories like this and that means they lose out on the experience and you lose out on the tourism dollars.
 

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