Consumer confidence at 16 year low

[Willie99]

:think2:

and what was going on 16 years ago?

here's a hint: http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618847

BTW: what happened after that election? Oh geee, things ain't so bad after all, the propaganda machine celebrated their victory, the bad news stopped, consumer confidence soared and we continued down the path of growth and prosperity.

It's tradition.

5 weeks, that's it

 

[tiznow]

and what's gonna make it go up?

UE will keep going up, homes will continue to plundge in value....

need a reason for it to go up willie not just some historical barometer

 

[cincy_]

:think2:

5 weeks, that's it

As far as "credibility" goes ... when it comes to the economy ... if you were a bank, you would have to be bailed out by now.

You're in a "credibility crunch", Willie ... you leveraged yourself too heavily on the Bush Boom.

 

[Willie99]

I made my call, we'll see

 

[tiznow]

if we are at 11,500 dow or something in 5 weeks after the bailout bill is that the all clear signal

define how in 5 weeks we will know if we are okay now.....please let me know....

dow sub 10k sometime in 2009 or before pretty much a shoe in

many banks will still fail, take on more losses, and all this shit will slowly spread to other areas of the economy, UE will keep going up, and homes will continue going down in value

this bailout bill isn't gonna change that fact other than it might allow the banks to get some of this shit off the books and take losses on them and be done with it....

its not gonna open up the credit spigots again

 

[cincy_]

I made my call, we'll see

Your batting average is pretty low .. but for everyone's sake, I hope I have to eat crow on this.

 

[Romanowski]

and what's gonna make it go up?

UE will keep going up, homes will continue to plundge in value....

need a reason for it to go up willie not just some historical barometer

Youre gonna wake up one day and realize you wasted your life:drink:

 

[tiznow]

its a phase romo

i have a very addictive personality i'll grow outta my economic ranter mode eventually

plus in my mind working a 9 to 5 for the man for 40 years of my life getting cleaned out by the man bagholding in my 401k or whatever is a waste of life to me.....

all this economic understanding is an investment so i don't get chewed up in the rat race

why you always so concerned about tizgloom's life anyway?

i'm doing just fine bro and happy as can be

 

[Romanowski]

tiz any idea whos gonna pay the bill on these so called democratic socialist nations in europe.....

...say in 30 years

they are in worse shape than us

 

[tiznow]

muzzies will infiltrate

there's a reason they are gaining more clout in euro land and buy shit up cheap as the western socialistic economic model in euroland collapses...

muzzies are fiscal conservatives....

they need their money and population

 

[tiznow]

as for us it will be continued mexican and asian invasion.....asians will be buying up alot of american interests for dirt cheap as all this evolves.....don't think there will be a huge muzzie influx due to all the 9/11 hatred and such and will mainly stick closer to home in europe...and europe is in a much tighter spot than the US is and has no other choice but to except muzzie influence...

people like DP who are doom gloomers talking about the land of the dieing white man

we'll its dieing due to a flawed liberal economic model and liberalism in general.....loss of family values etc.....

as for wars and all the other shit related to this shifting of power....that is pure chaos and anyone's guess

economically we have done to ourselves more harm than the terrorists and OBL could ever do

 

[Willie99]

Your batting average is pretty low .. but for everyone's sake, I hope I have to eat crow on this.

hehehe

okie dokie

 

[Willie99]

and what's gonna make it go up?

UE will keep going up, homes will continue to plundge in value....

need a reason for it to go up willie not just some historical barometer

how many times do I have to repeat this stuff? I'm not like you tizdoom, wanting to come here and blame the fed 40x per day in 23 different threads. If you really want me to repeat the reasons I've listed for the last 2 years, I will. I'll be surprised if I need to explain them to you again.

One of them should be self explanatory within the body of this thread.

 

[punter]

Most all of us on here are gamblers.

I think that it should be obvious that this table has turned cold.

 

[Willie99]

Most all of us on here are gamblers.

I think that it should be obvious that this table has turned cold.

so the fact that I've been saying that bad economic news and economic fear mongering will be front and center until the election day, and that bad economic news and economic fear mongering has been front and center to date means what again?

It will stop after the election, when balance in reporting returns.

 

[punter]

It means that if I were inteviewing money managers and it were between you and Tiz, you could kiss it goodby.

 

[Willie99]

hehehe

I'm not a money manager, but my life speaks for itself I have more than enough people choosing to pay to speak to me.

 

[punter]

"There's one born every minute."

P.T. Barnum