conservative review of Republican candidates

[Willie99]

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the table won't format probably

 

[Willie99]

Cruz & Rubio the top two for me

Ryan & Jindahl highly regarded, but I'm not big on them

I'll put Trump at number 3

Fiorina and Graham are off the charts bad


The biggest issues for me, you can't have a red dot on any of these, as listed by the source

Budget, spending and debt
Foreign policy and defense
Healthcare and entitlements (this hurts Trump for me)
Second amendment (read constitution in my world)
Taxes and the economy

 

[Willie99]

my ticket? Cruz and Rubio, but they can't win, the libtarded media would torpedo them and Cruz won't play PC


Rubio & Carson
Rubio & Trump
Rubio & Cruz

 

[Dave007inVegas]

my ticket? Cruz and Rubio, but they can't win, the libtarded media would torpedo them and Cruz won't play PC


Rubio & Carson
Rubio & Trump
Rubio & Cruz

Although Rubio is not my top pick he is the most polished of the top 4. Where I give pause with Rubio was his involvement in the gang of 8. Anyone who partners with Graham and McCain to try and reach a bi-partisan agreement with Democrats has Rino written all over it.

I’ve climbed on the outsider for President band wagon hook, line and sinker. So that currently leaves me with Trump, Carson and Cruz. P.S. I don’t consider Cruz part of the establishment.

I don’t prioritize the issues because there are so many and they all intertwine. If a Republican wins in 16 I want him to completely ignore the Democrats and turn things around as fast a possible. If the Democrats are included it will only bog things down and time is of the essence.

 

[Sekrah]

my ticket? Cruz and Rubio, but they can't win, the libtarded media would torpedo them and Cruz won't play PC


Rubio & Carson
Rubio & Trump
Rubio & Cruz

The Democrats best candidate for the General Election is Jim Webb and there's not a chance in the world they nominate him. The Democrats have some truly awful candidates. Hillary has corruption tattooed on her forehead and is an AWFUL retail campaigner. She's tolerable in very small doses but the more she's not in the news, the better her poll numbers get. When you see her 24/7 people really find her incredibly unlikable. Joe Biden is a loud-mouth gaffe machine. Bernie Sanders is an avowed Socialist who puts most people to sleep when he talks.

Just about any of the Republicans can win this General Election.

 

[vitterd]

The Democrats best candidate for the General Election is Jim Webb and there's not a chance in the world they nominate him. The Democrats have some truly awful candidates. Hillary has corruption tattooed on her forehead and is an AWFUL retail campaigner. She's tolerable in very small doses but the more she's not in the news, the better her poll numbers get. When you see her 24/7 people really find her incredibly unlikable. Joe Biden is a loud-mouth gaffe machine. Bernie Sanders is an avowed Socialist who puts most people to sleep when he talks.

Just about any of the Republicans can win this General Election.

Not so much. Jim Webb would have no chance to win.

The dem machine will get Hillary voters out. Right now all the blue states from last election stay blue if repubs nominate the wrong candidate.

You can keep repeating these tag lines about Hillary but if repubs don't have a candidate that can flip Ohio and/or Florida they simply cannot win. Ted Cruz cannot do that, neither can most of the republican field. Rubio can and possibly Jeb or Trump....and that's it. These far righties cannot flip those states.

 

[Willie99]

the democratic machine was a lot less effective when an African American was not on top of the ticket, see 2014, 2010, 2006, 2004, 2002, 2000, 1998

the GOP may not have won 2006 and 1998, but it wasn't about the democratic machine and turnout, it was about an unpopular war and an unpopular impeachment. W and Newt became lightening rods.

It wasn't even about the democratic machine in 2008, Obama won across the boards

It was all about turnout and nothing but turnout in 2012, the first and only election of it's kind

 

[scottcarter]

I don't know why anyone likes Rubio. He seems the phoniest of all the republican candidates. Every answer he gives seems rehearsed and his stance on Cuba is ridiculous. He's my least favorite of all the GOP candidates after Graham.

Trump
Kaisich

 

[SheriffJoe]

Yep, in 2008 it was all Obama, something that was totally unexpected for the Clinton machine. "Hope and change" caught everyone inside politics off guard.

The electorate in 2016 won't be the same one that elected Obama (twice). Blacks won't turn out for Hillary, Biden or Sanders in the same force.

That base is dead this cycle since he (or any other candidate remotely like him) won't be on the ticket.

Now all the GOP has to do is nominate a candidate who turns out THEIR base (no McCains or Romneys).

 

[PatsFan1283]

What's wrong with a rehearsed answer if it is the correct one?

He has been by far the most policy intensive candidate the entire campaign. Being boring is obviously part of his strategy right now, ditto for T Cruz.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Although Rubio is not my top pick he is the most polished of the top 4. Where I give pause with Rubio was his involvement in the gang of 8. Anyone who partners with Graham and McCain to try and reach a bi-partisan agreement with Democrats has Rino written all over it.

I’ve climbed on the outsider for President band wagon hook, line and sinker. So that currently leaves me with Trump, Carson and Cruz. P.S. I don’t consider Cruz part of the establishment.

I don’t prioritize the issues because there are so many and they all intertwine. If a Republican wins in 16 I want him to completely ignore the Democrats and turn things around as fast a possible. If the Democrats are included it will only bog things down and time is of the essence.

Agreed. Trump, Cruz and Carson. After those three the drop-off is steep.

The illegal immigration fiasco alone is enough to give Trump the nod. Ideologically, he's not the most conservative but let him kick ass and knock heads for one term and see where we are in 4 years.

 

[SheriffJoe]

The GOP also needs fresh energy in Congress. Boehner and McConnell are the WORST ever. Right now it's as if the midterms never happened and Pelosi and Reid were still in charge.

 

[PatsFan1283]

I thought the Tea Party was supposed to be the fresh energy? That just faded? You don't even hear the term anymore really.

Cruz, Rubio, Paul were all tea party wave. They don't really reference that is how they won their elections.

You really don't hear about cutting spending anymore either which seemed to be the main issue. It's like the revolution just got bought and sold and now it is over.

 

[GasMan]

Cut spending = military or welfare...neither of which will get talked about voluntarily. There are plenty of Rs on the government cheese as well.

 

[SheriffJoe]

What happened to the tea party wave and Cruz, Rubio and Paul? Two of them were co-opted and the third is now considered an outlaw and sworn enemy of the GOPe.

Don't forget Sen. Mike Lee - another rock solid conservative.

There's probably 25+ solid conservatives in the House, but Boehner and McCarthy have shrewdly kept them away from any of the powerful committees.

The GOPe is perfectly content to harness all that tea party energy during election season but as soon as the new Congress is sworn in it's back to business as usual.

Obama is the most dangerous president ever because he can do whatever the hell he wants and nobody in either party has the balls to stop him.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Yeah that has gotta be frustrating as hell to Cruz that it is anti-establishment fervor in the air and somehow 3 non-politicians came out of nowhere to steal his spotlight.

He's the most anti-establishment person by far.

 

[vitterd]

the democratic machine was a lot less effective when an African American was not on top of the ticket, see 2014, 2010, 2006, 2004, 2002, 2000, 1998

the GOP may not have won 2006 and 1998, but it wasn't about the democratic machine and turnout, it was about an unpopular war and an unpopular impeachment. W and Newt became lightening rods.

It wasn't even about the democratic machine in 2008, Obama won across the boards

It was all about turnout and nothing but turnout in 2012, the first and only election of it's kind

Yeah but the dem machine turned out enough of the vote in 2012. The demographics are different now in this country, the electorate is way more diverse .....I tried to tell you this 3 years ago. The dem ground game is better in the key states. And pretty much every state but 7 or 8 will go the same way for red and blue in 2016.

 

[vitterd]

Yeah that has gotta be frustrating as hell to Cruz that it is anti-establishment fervor in the air and somehow 3 non-politicians came out of nowhere to steal his spotlight.

He's the most anti-establishment person by far.

Yeah but Cruz is too wacky. Not sure if his thoughts or looks frighten me more. Either way, he's too far out to win and rightfully so.

 

[GasMan]

Have yet to decide. I love Carson, maybe for the VP spot due to lack of political savvy. Trump, not sure he has the stamina. Rubio is by far the most polished, and he brings Florida with him.

 

[vitterd]

Have yet to decide. I love Carson, maybe for the VP spot due to lack of political savvy. Trump, not sure he has the stamina. Rubio is by far the most polished, and he brings Florida with him.

A rubio/Kasich ticket would be toughest for dems because if Ohio and Florida goes red....it's over. Unfortunately for repubs, too much ego and dumb far right wingers think they can win with fringe candidates. A Rubio/Carson ticket would be a tough one for dems also. Many of the other combos are dogs shit and won't win.

If if repubs were smart they could take back the White House with the right ticket. But much of the far right have hijacked the party so it might not happen.