Colorado vs Colorado St discussion...

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Rivalry game being played @ Invesco Field Denver, Colorado. You can say that the home field advantage is pretty much out of the question seeing it's being played on a neutral field.

Game Lines:
COL -11.5
OVER/UNDER 55.5

1H lines:
COL -6.5
OVER/UNDER 28

Any Colorado or CSU fans here with any insight on the styles and how each team plays? Any important notes of graduation, injuries, coaching?

 

[MattMillen+]

Colorado St. lost Hanie at QB. They are going to try to run which plays right into Colorado's strength which is the D-Line/against the run. Also Colorado St has a very inexperienced secondary and with Hawkins at Colorado now I'd expect to seem them pass a lot tonight. Oh and they have Freshman soon to be superstar Darrell Scott at RB. Don't like laying that many points in a rivalry game but if I had a gun to my head I'd take Colorado.

 

[TORaps]

Colorado St. lost Hanie at QB. They are going to try to run which plays right into Colorado's strength which is the D-Line/against the run. Also Colorado St has a very inexperienced secondary and with Hawkins at Colorado now I'd expect to seem them pass a lot tonight. Oh and they have Freshman soon to be superstar Darrell Scott at RB. Don't like laying that many points in a rivalry game but if I had a gun to my head I'd take Colorado.

All of this is very good info, and should lead you to wonder why the line is only -11 :think2: Colorado State anyone

 

[MattMillen+]

The only thing I can say for Colorado St. here is this has been a close game in the past years.

2007: 3 point game
2006: 4 point game
2005: 3 point game
2004: 3 point game
2003: 7 point game
2002: 5 point game

But I think personally that Colorado is on the rise and Colorado St. has been and is on the decline.

 

[seanm0520]

All of this is very good info, and should lead you to wonder why the line is only -11 :think2: Colorado State anyone

My only guess is because it's a rivalry game and because history says this will not be a blow.

I, however, did lay the points and grabbed Colorado. Starting in week 3, Colorado enters Hell and needs two decisive victories in these first two weeks to have some momentum. They can't afford a blunder. I just think they'll be much more amped for this game.

 

[fbfan04]

Here are a couple decent writeups:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...ncaaf-ccn&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...ncaaf-cco&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report

Im thinking about

CO -6.5 1H
u28 1H

 

[TORaps]

My only guess is because it's a rivalry game and because history says this will not be a blow.

I, however, did lay the points and grabbed Colorado. Starting in week 3, Colorado enters Hell and needs two decisive victories in these first two weeks to have some momentum. They can't afford a blunder. I just think they'll be much more amped for this game.

definitely respect that opinion... I just find it weird how the line has dropped since opening with the % of ppl on Colorado. and now the odds are getting better for the -11.. and ya..we will see.. should be a good show..

 

[GoSooners]

All of this is very good info, and should lead you to wonder why the line is only -11 :think2: Colorado State anyone

First off, 11 points is not a short line. Anything in double digits in today's college game is a pretty good size line. Which should tell you how far apart the linesmakers think these two teams are.. Plus, this is much like the situation with OSU-WSU game yesterday. Nobody trusted OSU because of their recent history of road losses, even though OSU on paper was clearly the best team in that game in every category. And should have been favored by 14 or more.. But the line basically never got over 7 because of public perception. In relation to the general public, very few weekend gamblers think outside the box. They see this as a close series every year. End of discussion. "I'll just take CSU". The linesmakers are pretty damned smart. With the exception of some of the mistakes they've made with early season game totals, they basically have been accurate with spreads. It's up to you to see if they missed something or are off a little in their capping...And keep in mind that these lines get to a number that is set up for some action. And 10.5 or 11 points beg for some public action on CSU. If I had to look at one specefic intangible here that favors Colorado more than perhaps the linesmakers thought, it would be that these are two programs are going opposite directions. CSU has been on the downswing for the last couple of years. CU is just now starting to go on the upswing. And this could be a breakout year in Hawkins system. He'll be going up against a coach who has never been a head coach at any program anywhere. With a new QB taking the place of a 3,000 yard passer last season. New system. And only 12 starters return for CSU off a 3-9 team...Nothing is set in stone when you have 19 and 20 year old kids involved. But the intangibles definitely favor Colorado here.

 

[CHUGG]

is this game on directv? I dont even know why I get the college game plan. It doesnt have a ton of games inclusing this one.

 

[TORaps]

First off, 11 points is not a short line. Anything in double digits in today's college game is a pretty good size line. Which should tell you how far apart the linesmakers think these two teams are.. Plus, this is much like the situation with OSU-WSU game yesterday. Nobody trusted OSU because of their recent history of road losses, even though OSU on paper was clearly the best team in that game in every category. And should have been favored by 14 or more.. But the line basically never got over 7 because of public perception. In relation to the general public, very few weekend gamblers think outside the box. They see this as a close series every year. End of discussion. "I'll just take CSU". The linesmakers are pretty damned smart. With the exception of some of the mistakes they've made with early season game totals, they basically have been accurate with spreads. It's up to you to see if they missed something or are off a little in their capping...And keep in mind that these lines get to a number that is set up for some action. And 10.5 or 11 points beg for some public action on CSU. If I had to look at one specefic intangible here that favors Colorado more than perhaps the linesmakers thought, it would be that these are two programs are going opposite directions. CSU has been on the downswing for the last couple of years. CU is just now starting to go on the upswing. And this could be a breakout year in Hawkins system. He'll be going up against a coach who has never been a head coach at any program anywhere. With a new QB taking the place of a 3,000 yard passer last season. New system. And only 12 starters return for CSU off a 3-9 team...Nothing is set in stone when you have 19 and 20 year old kids involved. But the intangibles definitely favor Colorado here.

Much agreed with the kids factor... should be a good game.. I think I will take C State... goood luck and we shall see the victor

and for what I bolded, this might not be a bad thing

 

[MattMillen+]

First off, 11 points is not a short line. Anything in double digits in today's college game is a pretty good size line. Which should tell you how far apart the linesmakers think these two teams are.. Plus, this is much like the situation with OSU-WSU game yesterday. Nobody trusted OSU because of their recent history of road losses, even though OSU on paper was clearly the best team in that game in every category. And should have been favored by 14 or more.. But the line basically never got over 7 because of public perception. In relation to the general public, very few weekend gamblers think outside the box. They see this as a close series every year. End of discussion. "I'll just take CSU". The linesmakers are pretty damned smart. With the exception of some of the mistakes they've made with early season game totals, they basically have been accurate with spreads. It's up to you to see if they missed something or are off a little in their capping...And keep in mind that these lines get to a number that is set up for some action. And 10.5 or 11 points beg for some public action on CSU. If I had to look at one specefic intangible here that favors Colorado more than perhaps the linesmakers thought, it would be that these are two programs are going opposite directions. CSU has been on the downswing for the last couple of years. CU is just now starting to go on the upswing. And this could be a breakout year in Hawkins system. He'll be going up against a coach who has never been a head coach at any program anywhere. With a new QB taking the place of a 3,000 yard passer last season. New system. And only 12 starters return for CSU off a 3-9 team...Nothing is set in stone when you have 19 and 20 year old kids involved. But the intangibles definitely favor Colorado here.

I agree with what you said about CU rising and CSU being on the decline. I mentioned that earlier. Sooner how much PT do you think Scott will get tonight? I know they have a good RB in Sumler. 10-15 plays or so? I'm interested to see this kid.

 

[ColonelLingus]

is this game on directv? I dont even know why I get the college game plan. It doesnt have a ton of games inclusing this one.

It's on Fox Sports Network.

 

[Harvey Dent]

I agree with what you said about CU rising and CSU being on the decline. I mentioned that earlier. Sooner how much PT do you think Scott will get tonight? I know they have a good RB in Sumler. 10-15 plays or so? I'm interested to see this kid.

Coach Dan Hawkins confirmed earlier this week that Scott will definitely "be in the mix" on Sunday. Scott came into preseason camp a little out of shape.

How quickly Scott picks up pass protection might determine how quickly he becomes the Buffs' starting tailback.

 

[GoSooners]

I agree with what you said about CU rising and CSU being on the decline. I mentioned that earlier. Sooner how much PT do you think Scott will get tonight? I know they have a good RB in Sumler. 10-15 plays or so? I'm interested to see this kid.

I would be a little surprised if Scott got any siginicant playing time in this first game. Even a great player like Adrian Peterson at OU didn't really get fully immersed into the lineup until after the first couple of games. I suspect the same thing will happen with Scott. The closeness of the game might also dictate how much playing time he gets. But my money is on Scott being a full time starter by the 4th or 5th game of the season. He's just too good to keep on the bench.

 

[Moneyneversleeps]

is this game on directv? I dont even know why I get the college game plan. It doesnt have a ton of games inclusing this one.

It's on FSN

 

[PurebedroomBully]

Capping these games is very very easy..

We have a buffaloe matched up with a ram... buffalo weighs upwards of 2600 lbs about 200 lbs..

simple math man...

when the buffalo is done with the ram..this will be the end result..

 

[sdf]

public lost on UKy are chasing on CU..line up to 12 and 12.5

 

[The Vegas Snake]

the fact is, no casual gambler even knows anything about colorado and colorado state. They set it at 11, and now in vegas i see it at 12, which is a fair line, any lower and there would be too much colorado action. The FACT is, is that colorado is a rising team according to analysts, but take whatever they say with a grain of salt, the media is there to simply throw us off for gambling related purposes. And Colorado, is not that good of a team, sure they might do 6-5 this year but I dont see them winning any more then that. The point of all this, is that they play the game on the field. Having played in rivalry games myself in high school. Records, stats, projections, and some times even talent are meaningless. Colorado State will be VERY fired up for this game against an in state rival, if they have any pride as a football team at all, theyll keep this game close and cover the 12 points against their BIGGEST RIVAL. My play today is

Colorado State +12
Over 57 (I see high scoring affair tonight)

 

[vijaysinger]

csu without kicker and punter jason smith

 

[Risk44]

Capping these games is very very easy..

We have a buffaloe matched up with a ram... buffalo weighs upwards of 2600 lbs about 200 lbs..

simple math man...

when the buffalo is done with the ram..this will be the end result..

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