Colorado Sells $19 Million in Cannabis in March: $1.9 Million Goes to Schools and Crime Down 10%

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That may be true now. But we still have meth lab busts here in Oklahoma. Just not as many as we used to. The state with the most meth lab busts is a state you should be familiar with, Indiana. So they're getting the cold pills from somewhere...


These are all tiny labs mostly for personal use.

Tons of them busted just South of here. 99% are TINY operations...2 liter bottle type deals
 

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These are all tiny labs mostly for personal use.

Tons of them busted just South of here. 99% are TINY operations...2 liter bottle type deals
Indiana is probably on a state registry list like Oklahoma that limits the number of cold pills you can buy at a time. I know about 7 years ago my brother's neighbor got busted for having a meth lab. He lives out in a rural area, and they used to have big trucks going in and out from this dude's back yard at all times of the night. He was cooking up a ton of this stuff. He ended up getting busted and sent off to jail. But you never really hear of the big drug busts like that anymore. But there are a ton of these labs. Like you said, many people cook for themselves. I'm sure the amount of labs that are busted pale in comparison of what is still out there.
 

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I never said making murder or robbing banks legal. How did you possibly make that leap from my comment?

Anyways, they are dealing drugs to children now and have been doing it forever. The difference is by making it legal you can create jobs, collect taxes, reduce the prison population and keep out the criminal element.

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You will never stop people from using all sorts of drugs including alcohol and cigarettes. They have been fighting the "war on drugs" forever and how's that working out?
I know that you weren't saying that. I was just bringing it to that extreme to make a point about the attitude of "people break this law anyways so that is reason enough to make it legal".

I just disagree with that train of thought is all. I was trying to prove a point.
 

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I disagree with that logic.

Let's follow what you said one or two steps forward....dealing drugs to children.......robbing banks....maybe murder?

If that is where we set the bar then everything will eventually be legal.

I agree, that logic is ridiculous. I mean even from my own perspective. I would buy Vicodin or smoke weed if it were legal. But I don't deal with drug dealers or the law.
 

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Not even close...they would much rather move Meth, Coke, MDMA or heroin than weed.

Legalizing weed (which they should) will only make cartels more profitable in the long run. This isn't 1970 anymor.

Nonsense. There is insufficient demand for any of those hardcore, physically debilitating drugs.

While the USA has at least 30-35 million cannabis users - a number that could eventually double once legal penalties are removed - the combined population using your hardcore drugs is barely over 5 million.

Long term, habitual use of any of those drugs leads to extreme physical and mental disability and thus make the chronic user inable to afford black market pricing even if they could live long enough to keep using
 

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I agree, that logic is ridiculous. I mean even from my own perspective. I would buy Vicodin or smoke weed if it were legal. But I don't deal with drug dealers or the law.
doesn't mean it right. Go are the government to tell you what you can do with your life? Remember less than 100% years ago you would be breaking the law if you were caught drinking a beer, win or whiskey. The next day no problem.
 

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Nonsense. There is insufficient demand for any of those hardcore, physically debilitating drugs.

While the USA has at least 30-35 million cannabis users - a number that could eventually double once legal penalties are removed - the combined population using your hardcore drugs is barely over 5 million.



Long term, habitual use of any of those drugs leads to extreme physical and mental disability and thus make the chronic user inable to afford black market pricing even if they could live long enough to keep using

Wrong on every level. If i weren't about to leave on vacation i may argue with you. I will leave up to others to show you how wrong you are.
 

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doesn't mean it right. Go are the government to tell you what you can do with your life? Remember less than 100% years ago you would be breaking the law if you were caught drinking a beer, win or whiskey. The next day no problem.

Didn't give an opinion on whether it's right or wrong just disagreeing with your logic about how everyone who would do drugs if it were legal are already doing them.
 

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Didn't give an opinion on whether it's right or wrong just disagreeing with your logic about how everyone who would do drugs if it were legal are already doing them.
LOL , I must have been on something when I wrote that. I can even understand the first part of it and I wrote it. All I am saying is the government has no business telling people what they can or cannot put in their bodies.
 

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LOL , I must have been on something when I wrote that. I can even understand the first part of it and I wrote it. All I am saying is the government has no business telling people what they can or cannot put in their bodies.

Well you know me, I picture the government as a function of society not separate from society. And I'm not going to be able to do everything I want to do just because I want to do it. You live in a society with more than just you. By the way I have smoked weed in my days (college days) and would smoke weed if it were legal and wouldn't lose my job from a drug test. I also wish online gambling was legal and can get instant payments!
 

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I know that you weren't saying that. I was just bringing it to that extreme to make a point about the attitude of "people break this law anyways so that is reason enough to make it legal".

I just disagree with that train of thought is all. I was trying to prove a point.
Ya I figured that is what you were doing but that just me an excuse to take a shot at ya. #%()

But seriously, why should you care what's legal or not? Do you think prisons full of people for selling or possessing pot is ok? Meth? Coke? What about the companies that sell refined sugar? Poisons like aspartame? Where does it begin and end? Who made the government GOD when it comes to thing like this? They should label things and provide info for those that care to know but in no way should be be able to decide for us in away, shape or form as to what we do with our own bodies.
 

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Well you know me, I picture the government as a function of society not separate from society. And I'm not going to be able to do everything I want to do just because I want to do it. You live in a society with more than just you. By the way I have smoked weed in my days (college days) and would smoke weed if it were legal and wouldn't lose my job from a drug test. I also wish online gambling was legal and can get instant payments!
I don't smoke it either. Maybe once a year or two. That's my choice though. Its a plant. No one has ever dies from a pot overdoes but if they did, so what? People die in car crashes and no one demands we ban cars. Growing a tomato plant or a pot plant or grapes in order to make wine is non of anyone's business.

You should be able to do anything you want at anytime as long as it doesn't affect others. I said that because of course pot will influence decision making abilities so in no way do advocate someone smoking weed and driving a school bus. Same goes with booze etc. Yes, that is where government comes in play. That is unacceptable. But things like drug testing someone and losing their job if they smoke a doobie on the weekend is idiotic.
 

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Ya I figured that is what you were doing but that just me an excuse to take a shot at ya. #%()

But seriously, why should you care what's legal or not? Do you think prisons full of people for selling or possessing pot is ok? Meth? Coke? What about the companies that sell refined sugar? Poisons like aspartame? Where does it begin and end? Who made the government GOD when it comes to thing like this? They should label things and provide info for those that care to know but in no way should be be able to decide for us in away, shape or form as to what we do with our own bodies.

Well, I completely understand your point, and to some degree agree with your larger point, but I have to disagree and here is why;
We are a nation of laws. If we don't agree with a particular law then we have a means, often an almost impossible means, but we have a means to change said law(s). The argument of "everybody is doing it" isn't an acceptable reason to change a law.

BTW, I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, I just think that the argument isn't strong enough.
 

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Well, I completely understand your point, and to some degree agree with your larger point, but I have to disagree and here is why;
We are a nation of laws. If we don't agree with a particular law then we have a means, often an almost impossible means, but we have a means to change said law(s). The argument of "everybody is doing it" isn't an acceptable reason to change a law.

BTW, I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, I just think that the argument isn't strong enough.
laws are there for a reason but I think you would agree there are bad laws also. Again, I don't know if you like to tip a couple cold wobbly pops every now and then, but less that 100 years ago you would be breaking the LAW. Water and grains. They have been making beer for thousands of years. You can look it up. Then one day some government say you cannot anymore. lol. Mike, I don't know how long you are gonna live and I sure as heck don't either, but while you are here do what your heart desires when it comes to things that make you feel good. No one should be able to tell you otherwise.
 

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laws are there for a reason but I think you would agree there are bad laws also. Again, I don't know if you like to tip a couple cold wobbly pops every now and then, but less that 100 years ago you would be breaking the LAW. Water and grains. They have been making beer for thousands of years. You can look it up. Then one day some government say you cannot anymore. lol. Mike, I don't know how long you are gonna live and I sure as heck don't either, but while you are here do what your heart desires when it comes to things that make you feel good. No one should be able to tell you otherwise.
You make an excellent point, I just disagree with the reasoning behind changing laws.
I think if that was the benchmark, then it would be creating a very, very slippery slope.
 

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Marijuana will be fully decriminalized and legal in almost every state within 15 years. Government is observing Colorado to see if it works with minimal problems. The spread of casinos and prescription painkillers that are on the streets do far more damage to the public than pot can ever do. It's strange to lump in casinos with drugs but they are both addictions. The impact of degenerate gamblers who end up losing their jobs, homes and families cause more suffering than a person smoking a joint.
 

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Marijuana will be fully decriminalized and legal in almost every state within 15 years. Government is observing Colorado to see if it works with minimal problems. The spread of casinos and prescription painkillers that are on the streets do far more damage to the public than pot can ever do. It's strange to lump in casinos with drugs but they are both addictions. The impact of degenerate gamblers who end up losing their jobs, homes and families cause more suffering than a person smoking a joint.



No joke.......I know an older gentleman that owned 2 successful restaurants & from what I was told, banked $10,000 a week clean after taxes from.both together & owned a Dunkin Donuts but don't know what that made.

He lost it all from betting on horse racing every day at the track. It was sick to see happen.

I disagree on your time line about weed being decriminalized with 15 years, I think it will happen in about 10 years or less.
 

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