Cole of BODOG : Care to reply ?

RoyalSports+ · Nov 11, 2003

Dear Cole,

I have sent you an urgent mail that still needs to be adressed by you. I understand Mr. Costigan has been invited to remove your email adress from the mail he posted at his website with the title : make sure Royal buys GA

here's the text of your email to Sting :

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> If they are short of money ( but do not offer this) we can kick some in...you are way to valuable to the industry to be tarnished with anything, and you need to be able to say from her forward that no book you have
promoted has gone under.

Additionally, other than BetPanAm, you can not take on a book without a minimum of three years operating history from here forward....there is no reason for you to do this....help them in the forum and in other ways if
you think its necessary, but you can not expose yourself anymore.....as I said the entire industry needs you to balance out the retards in your space, the stakes are to high now.

Tell Roberto you will give him a "fare" shake if he does this, but no favours if he screws up....he will get treated the same as anyone else....the industry needs this now. We all need a smooth transition out of this.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mr. Costingan has just posted the following in reply to questions being posed :

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> STING
Administrator

Registered: Sep 2003
Location:
Posts: 553
Dan, what is there to explain? The email says it all and I have it posted from the main page of this website. The fact that there is a suggestion that one of my advertisers was going to step in and assist says much about this website, however, the reason the name was deleted and will remain so is because he did not want any of the credit.

It's too bad some people would rather draw conspiracy theories as opposed to realizing they could have withdrawn their money today on demand if Royal did not insist on holding their funds hostage.

This just goes to show readers here the length we will go to get them taken care of. In addition to this particular individual we also had another bookmaker willing to step in and take over all Gamblers Avenue accounts but by than the database had already been taken over.

Real players of Gamblers Avenue need to focus on asking why everyone and their mother that I have spoken to says that there was no need for a rollover here, yet they insist on imposing one.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Chris' bolded statement is contraddictory to the title of your mail to him.

Yet, given the title of your email and its content, provided it is genuine, please answer my mail to you :

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> -----Original Message-----
From: Roberto Castiglioni
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:25 PM
To: 'cole@bodog.com'
Subject: Confidential
Importance: High

Hi Cole,

Was reading this post of Chris ( http://www.gambling911.com/backer.html ) and noticed your email adress is the one Chris failed to delete ( mailto:cole@bodog.com ).

Do you care to comment this statement you have allegedly made in this mail that Chris has posted on his website :

Tell Roberto you will give him a "fare" shake if he does this, but no favours if he screws up....he will get treated the same as anyone else....the industry needs this now. We all need a smooth transition out of this.

Do you think this is related to this comment Chris made on a mail to me :

am going to remove all past negative articles related to Royal as part of this condition and you will be treated equally just as everyone else, that I promise. My number one priority is to make sure the players are taken care of immediately and do not have to sweat payment and the rollover requirement simply does not help matters. We all need to do the right thing here and I am confident you will do the right thing. Please respond to me asap so we can move forward with this.

Chris

Does this imply you have direct control over Gambling 911 and that you have been behind the smear campaign Chris has been running against Royal for the past 6 months ?

I would highly appreciate an immediate response to this mail and trust you will be so kind to cooperate.

Sincerely,

Roberto Castiglioni
Royal Sports
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As Chris has publicly disclosed your involvement your public and honest answer is due.

Thank you

Roberto
The Royal Sports Group

IntuitionBET · Nov 11, 2003

Roberto you avoid answering a couple of simple questions in another thread...which is OK if that's what you want to do...avoid straightening out some rumors. And screaming SLANDER because you were asked some questions you don't want to answer.

But now this is really such an unprofessional and immature move on your part by STARTING what could be a PISSING match by getting others involved that probably DON'T want to get involved. And you are doing it in public instead of in private like a professional would do.

You are not acting like a CEO of a company. And especially Royal who has for years before you got there had strict rules that none of their employees are allowed to post in the forum and especially the boss.

Why are you trying to put COLE of BoDog on the spot here? You have already tried to prove Sting is a BAD guy over and over in the last few days....want more it looks like.

Laughing Out Fu*king Loud.

But then again this is just my opinion

Halifax · Nov 11, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Intuition BET:
Roberto you avoid answering a couple of simple questions in another thread...which is OK if that's what you want to do...avoid straighten out some rumors. And screaming SLANDER because yoiu were ask some questions.

But now this is really such a unprofessional and imature move on your part by STARTING what could be a PISSING match by getting others involved that probably DON'T want to get involved. And you are doing it in public instead of in private like a professional would do.

You are not acting like a CEO of a company. And especailly Royal who has for years before you got there had strict rules that none of their employees are allowed to post in the forum and especially the boss.

But then again this is just _my_ opinion<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't know your name was Cole.

Busta · Nov 11, 2003

This is slimy of you to involve another book owner. You sir are a disgrace to this industry.
Btw roberto have you had your viagra today?

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Gamblers Avenue was a boiler room in crica before being bought out by royal. Roberto the new owner is old & is in need of viagra.
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agreeen · Nov 11, 2003

If there were so many books willing to step in...Why did Silver sell the book to Royal so quickly? Did he really need the 15K or/and was that a suckers deal for Royal?

I have a feeling this post could get interesting!

IntuitionBET · Nov 11, 2003

Agreeen - As the story goes roberto got hold of the customer database so fast in his possesion that know one could do anything after that.

But of course this is just my opnion

PatrickMcIrish · Nov 12, 2003

Roberto - none of my business but I am inclined to ask you why bother with this? You have done a good deed for the players and have a big part of the posting population behind you, take advantage of it and use your time wisely. Now is a good time to put your best foot forward and take the HIGH ROAD on all this other crap. If this is something you can take care of with Cole out of the public eye that would seem to be more appropriate. Anyway just my thoughts on the matter.

Either way thank you for coming to the aid of the players. It is appreciated.

max1234 · Nov 12, 2003

I don't blame Roberto at all... Sting wants to play hardball then all bets are off. Sting's been blasting Royal for months. Why? Who the f*ck knows what his agenda is this time. But everyone knows that if BoDog says "shit" Sting squats and starts making grunting noises.

Royal.... GL on the running of GA.

gambler1 · Nov 12, 2003

This is a "dog eat dog" business and the more sly dog you are the more penetration you'll get.

THE SHRINK · Nov 12, 2003

I agree with Patrick's position. Royal has done a good thing for the players who got stiffed by GA...

To get involved in a petty "battle" on these forums serves no purpose...

THE SHRINK

BillDozer · Nov 12, 2003

This is EXACTLY why players should be exposed to transaction details.

Its not fair that they have to be in the middle of this kind of he said she said BS. Players should expect a format followed, a level of professionalism, and certain bases covered. No site should be able to effect a gaming operation and no bookie should be able to discredit one of the player's resources.

If these things are handled with minimal business standards then we wouldn't be fueling the fire for the US gov to ban this activity.

I hope for this to all be laid out eventually so we can see why a standard should be expected. I for one would like to be sharing laughs and picks with the guys I used to who now try to deter my posts.

Chris wants to show us that his site didn't contribute to the loss of (whatever you want to call this)... and Roberto wants to show us that Royal is not making a profitable business move at the players expense.

I really don't think the players care about whats under the covers and the soap opera of it all but want to make sure we don't let a system fall into place that leaves us extremely vulnerable.

Halifax · Nov 12, 2003

Legit question IMO.

Whether Royal handles it on the forums or not is their prerogative.

Since a large number of posters (including myself) saw the Cole Turner/BoDog E-Mail address before Sting deleted it, the source of the E-Mail is public knowledge at this point in time. Maybe that's why Royal chose to ask for an explanation on the forums.

TheGeneral+ · Nov 12, 2003

I guess this is entertaining to some. Alot of BS to some. Move on and let's see how it plays out.

marc · Nov 12, 2003

Can't understrand why anyone would have a problem with Roberto's post.

As a player who had withdrawn my funds earlier this year from royal, because of posts made by Ibet and sting, and as a player who had money at gamblers avenue, I would very much like to know wheher there are posters and portal owners yelling fire when they know that non exist. And whether they are schilling for books in whihc they have an ownership interest.

IntuitionBET · Nov 12, 2003

The Shrink - Roberto is trying to exercise a little old Dutch (B.S.) law that prevents freedom of speech in the posting forums even if it is the TRUTH that is posted? These forums are all about freedom of speech. But roberto is trying to exploit that law for his own gain.

And he is trying to drag Cole from BoDog in posting something here that he can use in court.

This just a clue as to how he has been working with other posters behind the scenes, and how childish and immature he can lash out at other PROFESSIONALS in this industry....first he aired grievances with SPIRO about betjm to make it look like Spiro was involved and now Cole. Who is next?

This little OLD law here states that you CANNOT advertise and make TRUE statements about someone if that person files a court case and says..."he is bothering and harassing me!" and it doesn't matter if it is the TRUTH. So in other words ANYONE that posts in this forum about anyone that lives here in Curacao can be held against this law, as the court here are a bit outdated and not very thorough in interpreting it, especially since the courts are in the Dutch language and these posts are in ENGLISH. This law will be challenged soon as it STOPS freedom of speech in these forums, and needs to be interpreted differently.

It is very chicken sh*t of anyone here to try to exercise it. be an adult and handle it like an adult.

So anyone that has a beef with Roberto/Royal be careful of what you post even if it is the TRUTH as he has already stated in the courts here he will take anyone and EVERYONE to court that posts ANYTHING about him.

Roberto also states he will challenge all Americans in the sportsbook business that post anything about him in the U.S. courts as well as they are not operating here legally etc. he states he has retained a New York law firm for this purpose.

So be Warned

The Shrink - this was what I was trying to call you about.

And of course this is just my opinion

bartybet · Nov 12, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
I agree with Patrick's position. Royal has done a good thing for the players who got stiffed by GA...

To get involved in a petty "battle" on these forums serves no purpose...

THE SHRINK<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i could'nt agree less......

lets hear what cole has to say...

IntuitionBET · Nov 12, 2003

Cole - Don't say anything is this forum to Roberto good or bad. Read the post above and the warning. be careful not to even answer his email as he will probably post it here just to piss you off.

Autiger IF you really have a case keep your mouth SHUT here and do it in the courts.

Halifax · Nov 12, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Intuition BET:
Cole - Don't say anything is this forum ...

Autiger IF you really have a case keep your mouth SHUT here and do it in the courts.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If only he could follow his own advice.

truthteller · Nov 12, 2003

Shrink and Pat,

I have to disagree with you on this one. Roberto's post just shows what kind of people players' are dealing with when they play at Bodog.

Dishonest is putting it lightly.

jam · Nov 12, 2003

The most alarming part of Cole's email is the fact he doesn't know the difference between "to" and "too", lol. Good God! Where do I send my resume to become a Sportsbook CEO?

Would I have to hire fat media whores like Gillespie? Would I have to make do with a shitty website because I'm spending way too much on mediocre looking BoDog girls to blow me?
Would I have to get in bed with greaseball 'player advocates' who wear an altruistic cloak but are only out for themselves?

At what point in their lives do these people look at themselves in the mirror and think "what the hell am I doing with my life?"