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[h=1]NYT: Scientists 'Startled' at Great Lakes' Rise; Another Warmist Prediction Is Biting the Dust[/h]
By Tom Blumer | June 30, 2014



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An undated but clearly recent page at the National Wildlife Federation breathlessly warns readers, in a section entitled "Threats from Global Warming," that "Lake Erie water levels, already below average, could drop 4-5 feet by the end of this century, significantly altering shoreline habitat." A Thursday Huffington Post Canada Business entry observed that "the (Great Lakes) basin has experienced the longest extended period of lower water levels since the U.S. and Canada began tracking levels in 1918." Of course, it's because of "climate change."
Friday, Julie Bosman at the New York Times reported (HT Powerline) that "The International Joint Commission, a group with members from the United States and Canada that advises on water resources, completed a five-year study in April 2013 concluding that water levels in the lakes were likely to drop even farther, in part because of the lack of precipitation in recent years brought on by climate change." But the reason Bosman was on the story is because — fortunately for area residents, but unfortunately for "startled" global warming adherents claiming to be "scientists" — Great Lakes sea levels are rising again :



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Creeping Up on Unsuspecting Shores: The Great Lakes, in a Welcome Turnaround
... after reaching historic lows in 2013, water levels in the Great Lakes are now abruptly on the rise, a development that has startled scientists and thrilled just about everybody with a stake in the waterfront, including owners of beach houses, retailers in tourist areas and dockmasters who run marinas on the lakeshore.
Lakes Michigan, Huron and Superior are at least a foot higher than they were a year ago, and are expected to rise three more inches over the next month. Lake Ontario and Lake Erie are seven to nine inches higher than a year ago.
... Scientists say the reversal of fortunes for the lakes is partly a result of the most bone-chilling winter in memory for many Midwesterners. The thick and long-lasting ice cover on the lakes kept the water colder and slowed evaporation. Heavy snowfall and a rainy spring allowed the lakes to make even more gains.
“We’ve had a rebound that we haven’t seen in many, many years,” said Gene Clark, a coastal engineer with the University of Wisconsin Sea Grant Institute in Superior, Wis. “We’ve been historically below average, and now we are finally back to above-average water levels. At this time last year, I was talking to Wisconsin state legislators about what was happening, why the levels were so low and what could the State of Wisconsin do about it. It was very much a crisis.”
Actually, Mr. Clark, what has occurred demonstrates that it wasn't a crisis. It was part of natural cycles over which man has no meaningful influence or control.
One Powerline commenter noted something consistent with my memories of the late 1960s, namely that people at the time were also worried about low lake levels:
I live not far from Lake Huron, and I recall that water levels the last decade or so have been the lowest since the 1960s. Climate change is the all-purpose whipping boy, but that doesn't explain why they were so low in the 60s. Cyclical issues seem to be the easier answer, but you don't get as much grant money for cyclical issues.
Bingo.
Deliberately ignoring history, or changing it to fit the agenda, has been standard operating procedure for the global warming-climate change-climate disruption proponents for decades. President Obama, the Environmental Protection Agency, and leftist politicians ridicule as "deniers" those who oppose their statist agenda by presenting pesky things known as facts, while the press generally cheers them on.
 
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Sold me... global warming must be a myth!

The amount of snow was staggering around these parts this year. Water levels change dramatically, if you look at inland waters around Minny and wi, they were lay below normal. Now they are normal or above because of precipitation. If we have a year or two I mild winter weather as predicted the levels will be lower. I'm not going to judge denying it because of sudden rise of lake levels just like I wasn't supporting it overt recent years of below levels cause that shot can change fast
 

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The amount of snow was staggering around these parts this year. Water levels change dramatically, if you look at inland waters around Minny and wi, they were lay below normal. Now they are normal or above because of precipitation. If we have a year or two I mild winter weather as predicted the levels will be lower. I'm not going to judge denying it because of sudden rise of lake levels just like I wasn't supporting it overt recent years of below levels cause that shot can change fast
Yea, you need at least 100 years of the billions of years of history to judge climate change.
 

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Yea, you need at least 100 years of the billions of years of history to judge climate change.

Actually, the puddles in my backyard aren't as big as they used to be in years past. I think BP and the 'warming' cult analysing a few decades worth of data might be onto something.

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The amount of snow was staggering around these parts this year. Water levels change dramatically, if you look at inland waters around Minny and wi, they were lay below normal. Now they are normal or above because of precipitation. If we have a year or two I mild winter weather as predicted the levels will be lower. I'm not going to judge denying it because of sudden rise of lake levels just like I wasn't supporting it overt recent years of below levels cause that shot can change fast

Yea, I don't judge anything on individual events like this. Just because the oceans mostly and to some extent the surface is warming does not mean we still can't have cold weather or events like this. It's just a ridiculous way of basing your opinion. I can just as easily find an article saying some body of water somewhere in the world is losing water levels. I'm getting embarrassed by thinking festeringZit was smarter than this. This is an acebb, Dave attempt at going against science.
 
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Yea, you need at least 100 years of the billions of years of history to judge climate change.

Bingo.

These ignorant donkeys think they can fudge 10 years worth of data, when the earth has been here for billions of years - and somehow they've proved man-made global warming?

It's fucking looney tunes.
 
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Yea, you need at least 100 years of the billions of years of history to judge climate change.

i don't know if they need that long but it is the number one reason I am still a skeptic. To be honest every ones opinion about it on this site doesn't really matter. It's something that will be proven with time. I'm leaning with the experts, I do realize they could be wrong. Actually I hope they are wrong. Oh I should mention I would think we as humans would have some kind of effect, that's just me. Is it as catastrophic as they say or is there much we can do about it? That's a different topic
 
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Yea, I don't judge anything on individual events like this. Just because the oceans mostly and to some extent the surface is warming does not mean we still can't have cold weather or events like this. It's just a ridiculous way of basing your opinion. I can just as easily find an article saying some body of water somewhere in the world is losing water levels. I'm getting embarrassed by thinking festeringZit was smarter than this. This is an acebb, Dave attempt at going against science.

You just don't get it, because in truth, you're the one who just isn't that bright. These fudged climate models that these scammers use give them the ability to make predictions. The problem is, most of the predictions they've made have been embarrassingly wrong. FACT.

I know how much you just love and adore big government, but the big government cock is ramming you up your ass hole, and you're too stupid to realize it.
 
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If it was that easy to prove them wrong then why isn't ther more of a international outrage? If it's as easy as you guys say then why isn't it black and white? I'm not
going to go with the non climate expert opinion on this board and the people who have been brought up in links for the most part are laughable
 

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You just don't get it, because in truth, you're the one who just isn't that bright. These fudged climate models that these scammers use give them the ability to make predictions. The problem is, most of the predictions they've made have been embarrassingly wrong. FACT.

I know how much you just love and adore big government, but the big government cock is ramming you up your ass hole, and you're too stupid to realize it.

Big government has nothing to do with it. Almost all academic institutions and actual climate scientists throughout the world agree with the data and that man is causing global warming. Posting a single body of water growing a foot has nothing to do with their reasoning behind global warming, lol. Trust me, you don't get it and you are coming off as very psychotic trying to act like this is some worldwide conspiracy. There's 10s of thousands of real peer reviewed research that backs global warming with real data and real research. Not sure how you can argue against that basic fact.
 

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i don't know if they need that long but it is the number one reason I am still a skeptic. To be honest every ones opinion about it on this site doesn't really matter. It's something that will be proven with time. I'm leaning with the experts, I do realize they could be wrong. Actually I hope they are wrong. Oh I should mention I would think we as humans would have some kind of effect, that's just me. Is it as catastrophic as they say or is there much we can do about it? That's a different topic
Don't know you very well. If that was sarcasm, not sure why. If it wasn't, sorry, but mine was. This planet is apprx 7 billion years old. Not
a chance in Hell we are going to fuck ourselves with carbon. Atoms, yea, we can surely do it.
 

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And there are 10s of thousands of scientists at the local, national levels that make predictions. You'll always be able to find a prediction that wasn't accurate. If it was so easy that these scientists are wrong where are your scientists predictions on what the level of Lake Michigan water would be at in 2014? There is none, global warming deniers don't research or make any predictions other than broad predictions that climate scientists are wrong and then they cherry pick shit like this to prove it. No science, nothing, just a bunch of bull shit.
 

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Big government has nothing to do with it. Almost all academic institutions and actual climate scientists throughout the world agree with the data and that man is causing global warming. Posting a single body of water growing a foot has nothing to do with their reasoning behind global warming, lol. Trust me, you don't get it and you are coming off as very psychotic trying to act like this is some worldwide conspiracy. There's 10s of thousands of real peer reviewed research that backs global warming with real data and real research. Not sure how you can argue against that basic fact.

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Don't know you very well. If that was sarcasm, not sure why. If it wasn't, sorry, but mine was. This planet is apprx 7 billion years old. Not
a chance in Hell we are going to fuck ourselves with carbon. Atoms, yea, we can surely do it.

I don't know how you could find my post as sarcasm?
 

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Unexpectedly!

Lead author, Dr Pierre Dutrieux, from British Antarctic Survey (BAS) said: “We found ocean melting of the glacier was the lowest ever recorded, and less than half of that observed in 2010. This enormous, and unexpected, variability contradicts the widespread view that a simple and steady ocean warming in the region is eroding the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. These results demonstrate that the sea-level contribution of the ice sheet is influenced by climatic variability over a wide range of time scales.”
 

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It just doesn't matter to the man made "climate changa" crowd.

They'll just keep making catastrophic predictions that never ever come to fruition, and after being proven wrong yet again, they'll call us stupid and move on to their next catastrophic prediction.
 

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