playing this early one under 9. day game after an extra-inning game the night before. bullpens got some extended work last night but thats offset by the fact that todays starters are very good. its not a robertson/ginter matchup. big difference imo. verlander, ostensibly having an 'off' season, has actually been very good over the last month plus and his numbers would look a lot better if you extracted the june/july stuff. cleveland has also been a great 'under' team over the last few years in these weird 12:00 noon thursday games theyve added to their schedule. the only hesitation i have with this one is carmona's control issues. but too many other things look good for the total. just need 5 or 6 good innings from him.