Cleveland Browns Over/Under 6.5 Wins In 2014/15

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<SMALL>Cleveland Browns 2014-15 regular season wins</SMALL>
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26015 CLE regular season wins over 6½
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26016 CLE regular season wins under 6½
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At 4-12 last season, troubles with top WR Josh Gordon, and what will likely be a QB Circus with Johnny Manziel now in the picture, this team will have to prove it to me.

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I will take Under 6.5 as Im not sold on this offense quite yet basing this with Gordon gone for the year and hard schedule to start off the year
 

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Easiest over on the board. Ravens are down. Steelers are not as strong as in previous years. Bengals are beatable. Browns probably have the best defense in the division and their offense should improve quite a bit. I think they have a shot to go 9-7.
 

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Ravens are the third best team in the afc
 

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I'd have to lean toward the over as well, for the same reason others have posted; Ravens and Steelers not as good as they usually are. Plus I like the law of averages here. In the last six years they have posted win totals of 4,5,4,5,5,4. That is pretty hard to do in today's NFL. I can't think of another franchise that can match that ineptitude in the last 20-30 years. Last year, they were actually 3-2 at one point and finished 4-12. The year before, they were in just about every game into the 4th quarter and finished 5-11. They are due to luck out some victories, even if they are the Browns.
 

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Easiest over on the board. Ravens are down. Steelers are not as strong as in previous years. Bengals are beatable. Browns probably have the best defense in the division and their offense should improve quite a bit. I think they have a shot to go 9-7.

Agree with all this
 

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I don't think they win more than four games
 

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as of now, this would be a no play for me.. I could see a over down the road with the right vig
 

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Ravens are the third best team in the afc

Maybe in 2011. Now their defense and offense are average at best. Flacco isn't a top 10 QB yet his huge contract has set the team back for a decade. They'll regress badly this year IMO.
 

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Maybe in 2011. Now their defense and offense are average at best. Flacco isn't a top 10 QB yet his huge contract has set the team back for a decade. They'll regress badly this year IMO.

The biggest misconception about Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco is his contract and how it impacts the team's ability to sign free agents.

Flacco, who signed a six-year, $120.6 million contract last year, actually has manageable salary cap numbers for this year and 2015. His $14.8 million cap number isn't the highest on the team. It ranks behind defensive tackle Haloti Ngata's $16 million cap number.

Flacco's cap number doesn't even rank in the top 10 among quarterbacks. It's tied for 11th with the Patriots' Tom Brady.

Half of the quarterbacks who have a higher cap number than Flacco in 2014 haven't won a Super Bowl. Eli Manning, who has the highest cap number among quarterbacks this season at $20.4 million, threw an NFL-worst 27 interceptions last season.

Flacco is making $6 million this year in salary, which also doesn't top the Ravens. Ngata ($8 million) and cornerback Lardarius Webb ($7.5 million) are earning more than Flacco in 2014.

Here are the 14 quarterbacks whose 2014 cap number is over $10 million:
 

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Flacco has become underrated. I know people think he is overpaid but honestly you don't go 11 TDs 0 INT en route to winning a superbowl and not be a legitimate player. Like that just doesn't happen unless you caught the best possible end of variance ever.

They deal Boldin, Pitta was PUP and Ray Rice had a huge decline last year. They'll get Pitta back and Steve Smith should help some, I could easily see them contending again in a far inferior conference.
 

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I'm pretty sure no other NFL team has lost 11 or more games in every season since 2007 like the Browns have. But now? Even though they hit on a lot of areas in the draft, they'll enter 2014 with a new coaching staff, new front office, new QB, new everything, and may face the loss of their best player for the whole year. There are way too many uncertainties for me to handicap this one. Nothing between 5-11 and 11-5 would shock me.

Lots of arrows pointing to the Browns becoming a run-first team. Their defense is pretty stacked, too. Very interested to see how it all plays out.
 

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