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I here you brother. It's happened so much to me in Buffalo I really don't even care anymore.


Same here just a shame how these owners basically rape the fans in these towns and they still keep going to the games.Now with the economy bad now want to see how much the fans still go to these games as the Indians and Browns are pushing tickets sales right now.
 

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Wally and his 13 million are coming off the books this year.

So there might be room to bring someone in to help.
 

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Wally's $13 M comes off the books but Cle is still over the cap.

2010 will see Wade and Lebron in Miami or NYC and that will be the end of the debate as to whether Kobe is better.

-Sean
 

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Wally and his 13 million are coming off the books this year.

So there might be room to bring someone in to help.


It does but Varejao is a free agent right now and he will be getting what Wally was making next year even though that is WAY too much for him to be paid.
 

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Wally's $13 M comes off the books but Cle is still over the cap.

2010 will see Wade and Lebron in Miami or NYC and that will be the end of the debate as to whether Kobe is better.

-Sean

Ben Wallace salary is killing this team thats for sure that bum and hope you are wrong about 2010 but time will tell
 

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2010 biggest Free agent class ever ....

Joe Johnson
Ray Allen
Manu Ginobili
Marcus Camby
Tracey McGrady
Shaquille O'Neal
Brad Miller
Stephen Jackson
Jermaine O'Neal
Mike Miller
Rip Hamilton

The next grouping is those players that are signed thru 2011, but can opt out in 2010 if they so choose:

Yao Ming (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
Amare Stoudamire (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
LeBron James (owed 17.2 million in 10/11)
Dwayne Wade (owed 17.0 million in 10/11)
Chris Bosh (owed 17.1 million in 10/11)
Dirk Nowitzki (owed $21.5 million in 10/11)
Josh Howard (owed $11.8 million in 10/11)
Mike Redd (owed $18.3 million in 10/11)
Tyson Chandler (owed $12.8 million in 10/11)

This next list consists of contracts that are set to expire in 2010, but the player may choose to opt-out following the 2008-2009 season:
Steve Nash (owed $13.1 million in 09-10)
Carlos Boozer (owed $12.7 million in 09-10)
Chris Paul (owed $6 million in 09-10 / almost certain to sign an extension before becoming unrestricted)
Memo Okur (owed $9.0 million in 09-10)
Hedo Turkoglu (owed $7.4 million in 09-10)


In addition to the superstars listed above, these 'second-tier' players are set to hit the open market as well:
Ben Wallace
Larry Hughes
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (option to opt-out after 09/10 season)
Anderson Varejao (option to opt-out after 09/10 season)
Al Harrington
Darko Milicic
Udonis Haslem
Jamal Crawford (option to opt-out after 09/10 season)
Eddy Curry (option to opt-out after 09/10 season)
Amir Johnson
Derek Fisher
Raja Bell
T.J. Ford (player option - owed $8.5 million in 10/11)
Travis Outlaw
Bruce Bowen
Earl Watson
Luke Ridnour
Matt Harpring
Quentin Richardson
Damien Wilkins

We also must include the list of players that will actually eventually have value due solely to the fact their contracts come off the books in the summer of 2010:
Jerome James (proof that Isiah Thomas knew what he was doing all along!)
Cuttino Mobley
Brendan Haywood
Tim Thomas
Brian Cardinal
Antonio Davis
Mark Blount
Bobby Simmons
Troy Hudson
Darius Miles
Kenny Thomas
Shareef Abdul-Rahim
Matt Bonner
Etan Thomas

Last, but not least, we have the 2006 Draft Class. These players will all be restricted free-agents in 2010, if they haven't already been inked to extensions:
Brandon Roy
Rudy Gay
LaMarcus Aldridge
Andrea Bargnani
Rajon Rondo
Tyrus Thomas
Kyle Lowry
Randy Foye
Marcus Williams
Josh Boone
Renaldo Balkman
Sergio Rodriguez
Ronnie Brewer
 

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Some are building monuments , others jotting down notes
 

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Same here just a shame how these owners basically rape the fans in these towns and they still keep going to the games.Now with the economy bad now want to see how much the fans still go to these games as the Indians and Browns are pushing tickets sales right now.

Browns are having trouble selling tickets? Never thought I would see that.
 

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lebron isnt going to go to new york alone.

he'll bring wade or some other big name with him.

NY is setting up now to afford 2 max contracts.

theyll have an 18 mill payroll in 2010. if they wanted to, they could land 3 max players.

bron, wade, bosh.
 

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Now I admit....Cleveland may be a toilet....I live just outside Detroit...so trust me...I know what a toilet of a city Detroit is...but, I dont get why people rip on these cities.....Ive been to TONS of major cities...they ALL look like Beirut in some parts...parts of Chicago, I wouldnt be caught dead in....East St. Louis? Good luck....Pittsburgh? LA? Frickin New York? Ugh! Those are just a few Ive been to....living here in Detroit we seem to be the laughing stock of jokes especially with the economy and the auto industry...I dont know whats so funny about people losing their jobs....The auto industry hurts EVERYONE...not just people in Detroit or Michigan...Whats funny is its all these southern politicians that wanna crush the union....well it looks like they are getting their way...but, just be careful what you wish for...if you want to crush the American Auto industry....thats fine..we will survive....but I hope all those treehuggers who love their big Chevy trucks and wanna go watch racin at the NASCAR events....love watchin those Toyotas zoom around the track instead of a Ford.........but as far as sports....Detroit is in the top 3 in the country...In my lifetime, I have seen 2 World Series appearances...1 Championship.....3 NBA Titles...3 Stanley Cups...with the 4th about a week away......yes, the Lions suck.....but we also have Michigan with a National Title in Football and Basketball...Michigan State with an NCAA Title...not to mention hosting The Ryder Cup...US Open...PGA Championship...All Star Games....Superbowls....we actually do things in a good way here...I cant name a city with a better resume top to bottom over the last 30 years....Watching that Cleveland video at the end when it says at least we arent Detroit....ummmm..that might want to be redone....there is much worse out there....of course our city could be better...whos couldnt? Just my 2 cents....

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Browns are having trouble selling tickets? Never thought I would see that.


Alot of PSL were up after last year and heard that alot of the fans didint renew them according to the local sports radio shows here and also the loges that were bought by companies for the Browns games alot of them didnt renew due to the economy.
 

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Now I admit....Cleveland may be a toilet....I live just outside Detroit...so trust me...I know what a toilet of a city Detroit is...but, I dont get why people rip on these cities.....Ive been to TONS of major cities...they ALL look like Beirut in some parts...parts of Chicago, I wouldnt be caught dead in....East St. Louis? Good luck....Pittsburgh? LA? Frickin New York? Ugh! Those are just a few Ive been to....living here in Detroit we seem to be the laughing stock of jokes especially with the economy and the auto industry...I dont know whats so funny about people losing their jobs....The auto industry hurts EVERYONE...not just people in Detroit or Michigan...Whats funny is its all these southern politicians that wanna crush the union....well it looks like they are getting their way...but, just be careful what you wish for...if you want to crush the American Auto industry....thats fine..we will survive....but I hope all those treehuggers who love their big Chevy trucks and wanna go watch racin at the NASCAR events....love watchin those Toyotas zoom around the track instead of a Ford.........but as far as sports....Detroit is in the top 3 in the country...In my lifetime, I have seen 2 World Series appearances...1 Championship.....3 NBA Titles...3 Stanley Cups...with the 4th about a week away......yes, the Lions suck.....but we also have Michigan with a National Title in Football and Basketball...Michigan State with an NCAA Title...not to mention hosting The Ryder Cup...US Open...PGA Championship...All Star Games....Superbowls....we actually do things in a good way here...I cant name a city with a better resume top to bottom over the last 30 years....Watching that Cleveland video at the end when it says at least we arent Detroit....ummmm..that might want to be redone....there is much worse out there....of course our city could be better...whos couldnt? Just my 2 cents....

Gasm~


Didn't Cleveland sweep Detroit ?
 

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LOL......Your right...my bad...nevermind all the points I made....that one trumps them all...Im sure everyone in Cleveland would say, yeah, but we swept Detroit...that makes it all better.....should I say the Tigers beat the Indians this year? :):) Your dumbfuck!:>(

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LOL......Your right...my bad...nevermind all the points I made....that one trumps them all...Im sure everyone in Cleveland would say, yeah, but we swept Detroit...that makes it all better.....should I say the Tigers beat the Indians this year? :):) Your dumbfuck!:>(

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Dumbfuck huh ?? I think your just a little upset that you live in the biggest shit hole this side of Beirut. Highest murder rate, biggest unemployment rate, and full of losers like yourself who need to pat themselves on the back a few times a week reliving the glory days. The Lions suck thats right, The Pistons might have been the worst team to make the playoffs this year and News flash asshole ... Michigan football has lost 5 of their last 7 bowl games ... and your National title in 1997 is a distant memory ... like a fart in the wind.
So keep telling yourself the little lies that keep you living ... and what exact points did you make anyway ?Oh yea , that you are an idiot and a jerkoff. Got it. ^^:)
 

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If you been to the city, I think they get what they deserve... Not a fan at all...

Still, I feel for you all. Maybe next year..
 

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Now I admit....Cleveland may be a toilet....I live just outside Detroit...so trust me...I know what a toilet of a city Detroit is...but, I dont get why people rip on these cities.....Ive been to TONS of major cities...they ALL look like Beirut in some parts...parts of Chicago, I wouldnt be caught dead in....East St. Louis? Good luck....Pittsburgh? LA? Frickin New York? Ugh! Those are just a few Ive been to....living here in Detroit we seem to be the laughing stock of jokes especially with the economy and the auto industry...I dont know whats so funny about people losing their jobs....The auto industry hurts EVERYONE...not just people in Detroit or Michigan...Whats funny is its all these southern politicians that wanna crush the union....well it looks like they are getting their way...but, just be careful what you wish for...if you want to crush the American Auto industry....thats fine..we will survive....but I hope all those treehuggers who love their big Chevy trucks and wanna go watch racin at the NASCAR events....love watchin those Toyotas zoom around the track instead of a Ford.........but as far as sports....Detroit is in the top 3 in the country...In my lifetime, I have seen 2 World Series appearances...1 Championship.....3 NBA Titles...3 Stanley Cups...with the 4th about a week away......yes, the Lions suck.....but we also have Michigan with a National Title in Football and Basketball...Michigan State with an NCAA Title...not to mention hosting The Ryder Cup...US Open...PGA Championship...All Star Games....Superbowls....we actually do things in a good way here...I cant name a city with a better resume top to bottom over the last 30 years....Watching that Cleveland video at the end when it says at least we arent Detroit....ummmm..that might want to be redone....there is much worse out there....of course our city could be better...whos couldnt? Just my 2 cents....

Gasm~



What you city you in Drew????


People don't understand that we here in Michigan don't need the city of Detroit at all. There is a wall around the city. They stay down there and the rest of society goes about our day.

I LOVE Michigan with the sports scene and the outdoor activity that you can do. The water is great we don't have hurricanes, wild fires, earthquakes or any other shit like that. Ski in the winter and be on the boat in the summer. Drive a few hours from the house and we are in the wilderness. I LOVE MICHIGAN
 

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Dumbfuck huh ?? I think your just a little upset that you live in the biggest shit hole this side of Beirut. Highest murder rate, biggest unemployment rate, and full of losers like yourself who need to pat themselves on the back a few times a week reliving the glory days. The Lions suck thats right, The Pistons might have been the worst team to make the playoffs this year and News flash asshole ... Michigan football has lost 5 of their last 7 bowl games ... and your National title in 1997 is a distant memory ... like a fart in the wind.
So keep telling yourself the little lies that keep you living ... and what exact points did you make anyway ?Oh yea , that you are an idiot and a jerkoff. Got it. ^^:)

YES your a DUMBFUCK! How am I upset? I admit I live in a toilet...I touched on the unemployment rate...what major city doesnt have high murder rate? I said the Lions suck...Reliving the glory days? Im gonna have another glory day when the Wings win ANOTHER cup in about 6 days...EVERYTHING I listed happend in my lifetime...Im 38 years old...I average a glory day about every 2 years average....not bad in the sports world...why dont you list all your cities accomplishments in your lifetime? I got a feeling it will be a VERY short list.....And tell me what little lies Im living? If you want me to list the points I made...just read my first post again...BIG paragraph of FACTS! But dont let the facts get in the way of your rants...you look pretty silly and childish....I will be waiting for those sports accomplishments in your lifetime in the next few hours...think hard bro...take your time...get them ALL down!

Peace buddy!:drink:

Gasm~
 

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