Chirac and Bush are like two peas in a pod. Stubborn fools who wouldn't recognise a grey area if it were stamped "I'm a Grey Area."
PM Paul Martin called Bush to congratulate him on Wednesday and invited Bush to come visit. Bush is, to my knowledge, the first US Pesident to never visit Canada. Real neighbourly fellow, he is.
Bush is going to need to realise that he'll need to do some work to get global opinion to shift in his favour. As it stands right now, most people think the Yanks are out of their minds for re-electing him, and their leadership are sensitive to this fact. Bush can't take this 'political capital' rhetoric to the international stage. In short, if he thinks additional arrogance will work, he's dead wrong.
I suspect you guys are in for a largely solo ride through the ME.
PM Paul Martin called Bush to congratulate him on Wednesday and invited Bush to come visit. Bush is, to my knowledge, the first US Pesident to never visit Canada. Real neighbourly fellow, he is.
Bush is going to need to realise that he'll need to do some work to get global opinion to shift in his favour. As it stands right now, most people think the Yanks are out of their minds for re-electing him, and their leadership are sensitive to this fact. Bush can't take this 'political capital' rhetoric to the international stage. In short, if he thinks additional arrogance will work, he's dead wrong.
I suspect you guys are in for a largely solo ride through the ME.
xpanda said:
Maybe it was Chretien that needed to learn some diplomatic matters. He never called Bush to tell him Canada wasn't going to support the US in Iraq, and he ordered your navy patrolling in the Persian Gulf not to turn over former members of Saddam's government to the US. Chretien never hesitated to bash Bush, so why should Bush have given Cretien some added standing among Canadians by coming for a visit?
When you constantly piss in someone's soup, don't be surprised to see that person refuse to come over for dinner.
Shotgun: the issues between Chretien and Bush began long before the Iraq war. Chretien left office in the fall of 2003 ... Bush had been in power for nearly three years by then. We all remember very distinctly that on 9/11 Bush made no mention of the nearly 350 Canadians who died, or that Canadians, especially Newfoundlanders, welcomed stranded Americans by the hundreds into their homes while they waited for air space to re-open. Not one mention by Bush in his speeches where he named country after country for their support. Further, by the time Bush was yipping about Iraq, he had already snubbed the aformentioned invitations.
Bush hated Chretien from the get-go. It seems Bush carries the grudges of his father, but didn't inherit the diplomacy.
(I and most Canadians agree with you that Chretien did not handle the Iraq issue well, though he made the right decision.)
Bush hated Chretien from the get-go. It seems Bush carries the grudges of his father, but didn't inherit the diplomacy.
(I and most Canadians agree with you that Chretien did not handle the Iraq issue well, though he made the right decision.)
Like most of the world, Canadians did not support our invasion of Iraq. So in brilliant diplomatic move, Bush Admin says those countries will not be able to participate in reconstruction, although now we need help more than ever.
to paraphrase what Bush said, what kind of mixed message does that send to the Canadian troops that have fought and died alongside ours in Aghanistan since Day 1?
Nice move, Dubya. Way to strengthen those alliances you are so fond of talking about.
to paraphrase what Bush said, what kind of mixed message does that send to the Canadian troops that have fought and died alongside ours in Aghanistan since Day 1?
Nice move, Dubya. Way to strengthen those alliances you are so fond of talking about.
Bush is walking a fine line ...
Because 52% of Americans decided to put Bush into the Office OFFICIALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME does not mean the rest of the world is gonna drop their shorts and bend over ...
Remember, Cheney calls the shots and Bush does what is needed by Cheney .. Bush has never had much in diplomatic skills and someone needs to have him zip down his Cowboy mentality in term #2 .. screaming, "bring it on" does no one anygood and makes him look like a truely pathetic leader
I hope I am wrong .. I hope I get to apologize to all Bushies ... right now I see the ice melting and reality setting back in mid December when the real Bush kicks into high gear ...
Because 52% of Americans decided to put Bush into the Office OFFICIALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME does not mean the rest of the world is gonna drop their shorts and bend over ...
Remember, Cheney calls the shots and Bush does what is needed by Cheney .. Bush has never had much in diplomatic skills and someone needs to have him zip down his Cowboy mentality in term #2 .. screaming, "bring it on" does no one anygood and makes him look like a truely pathetic leader
I hope I am wrong .. I hope I get to apologize to all Bushies ... right now I see the ice melting and reality setting back in mid December when the real Bush kicks into high gear ...
The UN oil for food programme is actually still the biggest supplier of essential stuff for the Iraqi people.
The coalition and the puppet government have both continued to use it.
But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your evangelical crusade.
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BTW. A wee snippet from the oil for food report made by the Iraq Survey Group.
The coalition and the puppet government have both continued to use it.
But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your evangelical crusade.
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BTW. A wee snippet from the oil for food report made by the Iraq Survey Group.
Y'all have fun in the ME now :howdy:
eek, I assume you have some proof that the Oil for Food program was actually the biggest supplier under Saddam's corupt regime. Or are you just blowing off steam from getting spanked in the election?eek. said:
Nobody objects to the program if it is clean so why throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Not all folks who support Bush are part of the evangelical right. However, it does sound like you are part of the paranoid left.
FOUR MORE YEARS!
