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Interesting article on the US/China economic relationship.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081123/BUSINESS12/811230325/1071/BUSINESS

China passed Japan to become the U.S. government's largest foreign creditor in September, the Treasury Department announced last week, reflecting the dramatic expansion of Beijing's economic influence over the American economy.

China's new status — it now owns nearly $1 out of every $10 in U.S. public debt — means Washington will be increasingly forced to rely on Beijing as it seeks to raise funds to cover the cost of a $700 billion bailout. China, in fact, may be the government's largest creditor, period. The Treasury Department does not keep records on domestic bond holders. But analysts said China's holdings are so vast that the existence of a larger stakeholder in the United States now seems unlikely.

The growing dependence on Chinese cash is granting Beijing extraordinary sway over the U.S. economy. Analysts say a decision by China to move out of U.S. government bonds, for economic or political reasons, could lead a herd of other investors to follow suit. That would drive up the cost of U.S. borrowing, jeopardizing Washington's ability to fund, among other things, a stimulus package to jump-start the economy. If China were to stop buying or, worse, start selling U.S. debt, it would also quickly raise interest rates on a wide variety of loans in the United States, analysts say.

bond buys boost buck
Additionally, the more China invests in U.S. debt, the harder it becomes for U.S. companies to sell their products overseas. That's because China's purchase of U.S. bonds makes the dollar stronger, particularly against the Chinese yuan, which has been kept artificially weak to boost Chinese exports. The relatively weak yuan remains one of the biggest obstacles to U.S. companies tapping the market in China, particularly lucrative now as Beijing embarks on $586 billion in infrastructure and other stimulus spending to keep its economy humming amid the global crisis.

In the United States, Chinese influence is already reflected in terms as basic as home mortgage rates. Since the U.S. government seized Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in September, China, which maintains the world's largest cash reserves of roughly $1.9 trillion, has shed about $50 billion in the companies' debt and mortgage bonds, according to people who track the data. With China shying away from buying more, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have had to pay more to borrow and have gotten less for mortgage bonds, pushing up rates for people seeking home loans just as the U.S. government is trying to bring them down.

"This is a sign of the growing interdependence between the Chinese and U.S. economies, but also a sign of a relationship that is not healthy in the long term," said Eswar Prasad, an economics professor at Cornell University and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "There are inconsistent policies on both sides of the Pacific that are working against a more flexible Chinese exchange rate and the reduction of China's large trade surplus. This is a problem for the United States."

$585 billion investment
In good times, U.S. companies tapped China as a bargain-basement manufacturing hub, helping lift hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty. But China's torrid growth has also caused severe environmental damage from a rapid rise in pollution and industrial waste, even as it improved American lifestyles by putting cheaper televisions and microwave ovens within easier reach for consumers. In recent years, Chinese cash also became part of a massive surge in foreign capital to the United States that brought down interest rates and eased the credit terms that a range of American financial institutions charged.

Now, in bad times, China is effectively co-financing the $1 trillion annual U.S. deficit and massive government bailout of the financial system. It is doing so in part with money earned from exports to the United States, which last year imported five times as much as it exported to China.

The surge in Chinese buying is part of a rush by panicked investors into U.S. Treasurys, an indication that lending to the U.S. government is still seen as among the safest investments in uncertain times.

China's investment in U.S. Treasury bonds surged by $43.6 billion to $585 billion in September, pulling ahead of the Japan, which now holds $573.2 billion worth.
 

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quantum, intersting stuff.

Saw something on the news. Maybe about a month ago or so.That China was having big layoffs due to the slumping American economy.

That one little news piece opened up my eyes to how dire our situation is on a global scale.

It's almost like we have governments abusing one another and everyone else in the middle is a pawn. Russia is coming back into force, if anyone has not noticed.
 

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y u got that right rob....we have a very symbiotic relationship

they depend on us big time

if we go down they go down

heard southern china (where all the factories concentrating) shutting down 1/5th of production in january (post xmas)

it'll be interesting watching the global powers attempt to reflate

but based on history

they likely are going to fail and drag our pain out for a longer period of time than necessary

and like the article says

we'll see how willing china and the rest of the world is to fund domestic stimulus

they have no problem funding our debt if we are buying lots of low quality chinese goods

but not so sure they will be so willing to fund our debt to send people rebate checks and fund domestic worker programs revolving around infrastructure, bridge building, etc....
 

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they depend on us big time

if we go down they go down

heard southern china (where all the factories concentrating) shutting down 1/5th of production in january (post xmas)
So true what you just said. Their capitalism is incredibly effective. We saw how they flexed their muscle for the Bejing olympics. But it all depends on us. If things don't change soon, China will be absolutely CRIPPLED come late jan or feb.

Russia on the other hand, is drilling for oil.
 

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oil prices crashed too

nobody can make money on oil shite assuming the global economy stays deflated and the reflation efforts fail

the oil collapse in the early 80s is what ended the cold war
 

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Great read Quantum, and it all goes back to one thing. Living beyond our means. At every level. From the individual to the political thieves. Ron Paul was the only candidate even addressing this shit and he got laughed off the stage. The joke thou will be flipped around soon enough.
 

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Relax ...

Bush is on top of this and meeting with Paulson this AM


God ... anything Bush gets involved with shit always goes south


Jan 20th can't arrive fast enough
 

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