Chargers, Raiders to Announce $1.7B Stadium Plan in Carson, Cal.

[quantumleap]

I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-292826391.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand

The San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders are expected to formally announce Friday that they are working on a plan to build a $1.7 billion NFL stadium to share in Carson.


Both teams plan to continue seeking public subsidies for new stadiums in their respective home markets, but they are pursuing the Carson proposal in case they are unable to finalize any deals.


"We are pursuing this stadium option in Carson for one straightforward reason: If we cannot find a permanent solution in our home markets, we have no alternative but to preserve other options to guarantee the future economic viability of our franchises," according to a statement from the teams.


The teams are working with a business group known as Carson2gether, which plans to offer details of the proposal Friday at the proposed 168-acre site near Del Amo Boulevard and the San Diego (405) Freeway.


The group plans to begin a petition drive to either place the proposal on the ballot or have the project approved by the Carson City Council.


Mark Fabiani, the Chargers executive who has been spearheading efforts for a new stadium, could not be reached late today for comment.


The city of San Diego has created a task force charged with finding a stadium site and developing a financing plan.


Architect David Manica, who is working with the teams on the Carson proposal, told The Times the stadium would have a capacity of about 68,000, expandable to more than 72,000.


It would also include more than 18,000 parking spaces.


"We want it to be the ultimate outdoor event experience, which includes both sports and entertainment," Manica said. "And we want it to be uniquely L.A."

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

18,000 parking spaces at $50 each. Neither one is a real franchise. Rivers should get the hell out of there. Now you see why Eli avoided the Chargers at all costs.

 

[MikeB]

They are both actively attempting to work out deals with thier current locations as well.

Maybe they are making this "announcement" as a bargaining chip?

 

[carlspackler]

Neither one is a real franchise.

LOL. The NFL would probably not exist as it does today if not For Al Davis and his "not real" franchise. Ignorant Barbarian.

You probably think that John Maddon is just a video game maker.

 

[The Guesser]

As a Chief fan, and fan of the AFC West, I'd absolutely hate this, but I think/hope it's just leveraging BS.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

LOL. The NFL would probably not exist as it does today if not For Al Davis and his "not real" franchise. Ignorant Barbarian.

You probably think that John Maddon is just a video game maker.

Al Davis was a complete moron. He may get 1 draft pick right a decade. And John Madden doesn't count. Too old and too fat. Maybe he can get into broadcasting again and let me know you need 10 yards for a first down.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Why does everyone need a new stadium? Seems the majority of teams have built a new stadium in the last 10 years. And of course everyone needs a retractable roof for their 8 home games a year. That roof may be open for 3 games a year at Colts games.

 

[niltes]

why do the chargers need a new stadium? is that a joke? have you ever been there?

1) the sight lines are hidious. it was a multi-purpose venue when built. not built for
football only. the first four rows are marked obstructed view. to see the game, the
people who sit there must stand (many times for most of the game) . this causes
the people behind them to stand there to see. usually this causes the entire field
level to stand. this also causes the plaza section behind the field section to stand to see too.
we used to have season tix at plaza row 23 and i could see continuous standing even
up to our row on occasions. there was this old guy in the row below us who could not
stand for long who had stretches where he couldn't see at all.

2) the bathrooms there suck. they did get rid of the troughs and replaced them with urinals.
if you leave a few min b4 halftime you might be lucky enough to use the facilities and return
without missing too much of the 2nd half. the same old guy 1 row below us got stuck in
line and crapped his pants while waiting in line for the toilet. not good.

3) parking is a joke. without a prepaid parking pass, many times they close the lot way before
the game starts. parking offsite is no fun and the mass transportation is limited.

4) the rest of the stadium has other issues, but its main flaw is that it isn't designed
to maximize revenue for the team (more club tix or suites for example). this puts
the chargers at a real financial disadvantage. if you want to see venues that are
designed for revenue maximization look at jerry jones' statium or the staples
center.

5) the stadium is so bad that the NFL will not have a super there again even though
they loved san diego. i think 10 years or so the NFL promised san diego a super bowl
or two if they built a real stadium. this would of offset some of the cost of building
a new one. the chargers also offered to build a stadium at no cost to the city if
the city gave them the land used for the practise field and the right to develop
some adjacent land (similiar to the deal the padres got for building petco).
that offer which seemed pretty fair was rejected and the relationship between
the chargers and the city has deteriorated ever since.

when the most recent commission was assembled, the chargers asked only
one thing of the city. that was that certain individual not be named to the
commission, the city of course named him to that commission and gave
him extra responsibity. the chargers were not amused.

the don't just want a new stadium, they and san diego need a new stadium.

 

[Akillies]

sd just dont care

 

[HamGlaze]

sd just dont care

They cared enough to build a fabulous new baseball stadium. A deal will be brokered and even if it happens to fail I'd like to be the first one to introduce you to the San Diego Rams.

 

[JackStraw77]

San Diego and Oakland really have atrocious stadiums for a sport where some teams are valued at $2 Billion dollars. And yes it does matter. Fans shouldn't have to watch a game in a shithole. You hate to see two cities lose their NFL teams but enough is enough.

 

[quantumleap]

They are both actively attempting to work out deals with thier current locations as well.

Maybe they are making this "announcement" as a bargaining chip?

This is exactly what I thought Mike.

 

[quantumleap]

Why does everyone need a new stadium? Seems the majority of teams have built a new stadium in the last 10 years. And of course everyone needs a retractable roof for their 8 home games a year. That roof may be open for 3 games a year at Colts games.

There is big money in the luxury boxes. Overpriced costs for rental mixed with overpriced costs for food (if that isn't included in the rental price).

Corporations can write off these costs.

 

[AlwayzRight]

Carson is over 2 hrs from San Diego. Won't happen.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Why does everyone need a new stadium? Seems the majority of teams have built a new stadium in the last 10 years. And of course everyone needs a retractable roof for their 8 home games a year. That roof may be open for 3 games a year at Colts games.

Because it makes dollars and sense. Especially if you can get someone else to pay for it.