Casino dealers in NJ are incentivised to not return to work

[brendanjack]

So is New Jersey completely closed down? I only ask as typically you need to look for a job to qualify for continuous unemployment in many states. You would typically get the initial claim for a limited length of time but after that, you normally have to show that you applied for a job to continue to get unemployment. There's not much out there but there are some employers hiring.

Here’s a prime example of how fucked up unemployment is. My neighbor a sports trainer fully certified in sports rehabilitations. Last year he put an add in to hire and got this chick who lied and said she had all the criteria. After 3 months he found out she was full of shit uncertified so he let her go. Fought with unemployment saying the women wasn’t qualified and didn’t want to take chance of being sued or what ever . They didn’t give 2 shits and sided with her.

 

[HarryCaray]

Here’s a prime example of how fucked up unemployment is. My neighbor a sports trainer fully certified in sports rehabilitations. Last year he put an add in to hire and got this chick who lied and said she had all the criteria. After 3 months he found out she was full of shit uncertified so he let her go. Fought with unemployment saying the women wasn’t qualified and didn’t want to take chance of being sued or what ever . They didn’t give 2 shits and sided with her.

Yeah I caught a guy red-handed submitting bogus billable hours to a customer so he could collect pay on them, had concrete evidence (badge swipe times at a turnstyle), fired him of course. Fought his unemployment and he won. Like most things it sounds good in theory but lacks in execution.

 

[bodyforlife]

Here’s a prime example of how fucked up unemployment is. My neighbor a sports trainer fully certified in sports rehabilitations. Last year he put an add in to hire and got this chick who lied and said she had all the criteria. After 3 months he found out she was full of shit uncertified so he let her go. Fought with unemployment saying the women wasn’t qualified and didn’t want to take chance of being sued or what ever . They didn’t give 2 shits and sided with her.

Both your examples and Harry's are certainly problems with the system, but don't really apply to what I'm talking about. I'm questioning if someone isn't able to apply for jobs due to a limited employment market, can they continue to receive unemployment.

 

[wilbur]

Both your examples and Harry's are certainly problems with the system, but don't really apply to what I'm talking about. I'm questioning if someone isn't able to apply for jobs due to a limited employment market, can they continue to receive unemployment.

Yes they can.

I'm in Illinois and run a seasonal business.
I give my employees a back to work date, so they don't have to look for work.
But now they are getting $600 a week more than their regular unemployment.
Hard to call them back without acting like a prick.

 

[brendanjack]

Wilbur is dead on I too have seasonal business and in my line of work typically folks on unemployment phone into automation system asked a series of questions each week for filing and you can call in abroad

 

[bodyforlife]

Yes they can.

I'm in Illinois and run a seasonal business.
I give my employees a back to work date, so they don't have to look for work.
But now they are getting $600 a week more than their regular unemployment.
Hard to call them back without acting like a prick.

Wilbur is dead on I too have seasonal business and in my line of work typically folks on unemployment phone into automation system asked a series of questions each week for filing and you can call in abroad

Well, perhaps the seasonal business is different, but I don't think that would apply to a casino worker or many other jobs. Agree? I'm just wondering if there is a change on the policy of having to look for a job (for the non-seasonal worker) considering the situation and so few job opportunities where one could find a comparable wage.

 

[JackStraw77]

WSJ picked up on this too. Cleaning staff make $23 an hour to stay home rather than $13 an hour to return to work.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-relief-often-pays-workers-more-than-work-11588066200

 

[kidman232]

i can see both sides of this argument. With the cares act and state unemployment I make right around what I was making before all this happened. if you factor in no state taxes, fica taxes, health insurance (company is paying), or 401k contributions my take home pay for a 2 week period is higher. I have no problem going back to work honestly. Sure the time home has been a nice mental health break from daily work stress, but I want life to go on, businesses to reopen, help those struggling, and obviously less people dying. My main concern is going back to work to early, putting myself at risk, while having my hours drop (thus lowering my pay). I dont want to go back and get 32 hours a week instead of 40, because were only allowed 10-25% of our capacity or we open to soon in most customers eyes and they stay away. same goes for dealers. If your base rate is $6 and the toke rate is $16, so your making $22 an hour, can you blame them for not being in a rush to go back and the toke rate drops to $8 an hour, because you allow 200 customers to gamble at a time compared to 800 previously. your making over $600 less per check compared to before the virus started, even more so compared to unemployment and now you are extremely exposed to hundreds or thousands of strangers each day.