Capping MLB 2007 #101a Ov/Un plus Las Vegas Q&A

[patswin]

Drake has been an under machine too,1-1-6 ytd
Montague 1-6 under
Scott 3-7 under
Tschida 2-6 under
Reilford 6-2 over

 

[jacksonjohn]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but if I am reading the master correctly, totals that CLOSE at 9.5 or 10 show an Under record of 80-57.

Is the only Holly Fuck for today the TEX/LAA game? (Just curious, what is the story behind the name Holly Fuck)

glta

 

[sinatrac]

Good Luck

<TABLE class=rt_railbox_border2 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=TH vAlign=bottom align=middle><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=component_head align=middle>MLB WEATHER</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR class=bg0_sub vAlign=bottom align=middle><TD><TABLE borderColor=#ffffff cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TH class=bg0_sub width="20%">Matchup</TH><TH class=bg0_sub colSpan=3>Conditions</TH><TH class=bg0_sub colSpan=2>Game Time Temp</TH><TH class=bg0_sub>Heat Index</TH></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>ATL BRAVES
WAS NATIONALS
Mon 7:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>RIGHT TO LEFT 10-15</TD><TD class=td>68 </TD><TD class=td>40 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>FLA MARLINS
PIT PIRATES
Mon 7:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>RIGHT TO LEFT 9-14</TD><TD class=td>72 </TD><TD class=td>39 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>MIL BREWERS
PHI PHILLIES
Mon 7:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO CENTER 9-14</TD><TD class=td>69 </TD><TD class=td>43 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>CHI CUBS
NY METS
Mon 7:10 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO LEFT 8-13</TD><TD class=td>66 </TD><TD class=td>41 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>CIN REDS
SD PADRES
Mon 10:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>LEFT TO RIGHT 9-14</TD><TD class=td>65 </TD><TD class=td>65 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>STL CARDINALS
LA DODGERS
Mon 10:10 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>CLEAR.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO RIGHT CENTER 7-12</TD><TD class=td>71 </TD><TD class=td>52 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>LA ANGELS
TEX RANGERS
Mon 2:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY, 30% CHANCE THUNDERSTORMS EARLY.</TD><TD class=td>RIGHT TO LEFT 9-14</TD><TD class=td>84 </TD><TD class=td>52 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>DET TIGERS
BOS RED SOX
Mon 7:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>PARTLY CLOUDY.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO CENTER 10-15</TD><TD class=td>64 </TD><TD class=td>38 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>BAL ORIOLES
TOR BLUE JAYS
Mon 7:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>MOSTLY CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWERS EARLY.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO RIGHT 10-15</TD><TD class=td>65 </TD><TD class=td>38 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD class=td align=left>KC ROYALS
OAK A'S
Mon 10:05 p.m. ET</TD><TD class=td>

</TD><TD class=td>MOSTLY FAIR.</TD><TD class=td>OUT TO RIGHT 10-15</TD><TD class=td>62 </TD><TD class=td>62 %
Humid</TD><TD class=td>-</TD></TR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle><TD class=a1 align=left>Updated: Mon, May 14, 2007 at 10:30 AM EDT</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Guys this my lasy update, blew through my bankroll, and don't plan to re-up.
If someone wants to post this site just go to Vegasinsider.com, mlb home, weather and copy and paste.
Thank's to pops and everyone who helped out, and GL rest of the year.

Sin

 

[pops69]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but if I am reading the master correctly, totals that CLOSE at 9.5 or 10 show an Under record of 80-57.

Is the only Holly Fuck for today the TEX/LAA game? (Just curious, what is the story behind the name Holly Fuck)

glta

holly fuck is just a tool of summary of teams and umps that have more ov or unders, max of plus or minus 9. all it does is saves you from doing each of those items individually in the pivot tables and just provides a summary etc. none of these provides a yes or no answer and should also be used in conjunction with the pdws to see era and whip which are the key day you should expect to see from each pitcher. the one items which is not there is last 15 day home and away scoring avg so that you can see which teams are on an up or down thread.

some people try to use this data to find an easy answer and not get too involved in doing any other work. but that is not the way you should be doing it. find the key plus or minus from the summaries and than do you homework on those specific games

 

[patswin]

Just a heads up the Tex/Tb series starting tomorrow will be played at Disney World, not Tropicana Field.

 

[patswin]

The Devil Rays are going to Disney World
Sun, May 13, 2007
By Associated Press

KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- Matt Silverman speaks confidently when he talks about the future of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.

The 30-year-old Harvard-educated team president is entrusted to help principal owner Stuart Sternberg make good on a pledge to transform a struggling organization into a hit on and off the field.

He believes in his boss's vision.

New team colors and a name change are on the horizon, and the club embarks this week on a plan to try to reposition itself into a regional franchise by playing three games against the Texas Rangers at Disney World.

In addition to increasing the team's exposure in the Orlando area, the Devil Rays are hoping to bolster television ratings across Central Florida and eventually lure fans about 90 miles southwest to their regular home in St. Petersburg.

''We're fortunate to play in a region that has a great love of baseball,'' Silverman said. ''Orlando is a big part of where we hope to spread our brand. ... And what better way is there to ignite the fandom than carry the game to them?''

The 9,500-seat stadium at Disney's Wide World of Sports complex is about 20 miles southwest of downtown Orlando and will be the smallest ballpark to host a major league game since the Athletics opened the 1996 season with six ''home'' dates at 9,000-seat Cashman Field in Las Vegas while improvements were made at Oakland Coliseum.

With temporary stands and outfield berm seating, capacity can be expanded to 13,000 at Disney, which has been the spring training base for the Atlanta Braves since 1997. Although advance ticket sales have been slow, officials remain optimistic that cooperative weather will spur a strong walk-up gate.

''It would be nice to fill the stadium, but what's going to make it successful is if fans leave feeling like they had a great experience,'' Silverman said, playing down the prospect of embarrassingly low crowds.

Despite having an exciting nucleus of young talent that's making strides toward shedding the team's losing ways on the field, the Devil Rays are last in home attendance, averaging 15,725 through 17 dates at Tropicana Field.

SPORTSBETTING.com has the Devil Rays set at +20000 to pull off the impossible and win the AL Pennant this season.

Texas has a history of not drawing well on visits to St. Petersburg. Last season, six games against the Rangers attracted an average of 8,241, with announced crowds ranging from 7,147 to 9,701.

Silverman, however, noted the opponent had less to do with relocating this week's games than management's desire to experiment early in the season when the weather is less humid and games are less susceptible to rain delays.

That ordinarily isn't a concern because the Devil Rays play in a dome.

''I think it's a great idea,'' said Rangers outfielder Jerry Hairston, whose family will join him in Orlando.

''First trip for my son going to Disney World. He's 18 months. First time seeing Mickey Mouse. It will be good for him. I'll record it and he'll always have it.''

Not all the Rangers are planning theme-park visits and sightseeing junkets. After all, the games do count in the standings.

''It will be business as usual,'' shortstop Michael Young said. ''I don't care where we play. I want to go out and get it done.''

NASCAR legend Richard Petty will throw out the ceremonial first pitch for one of the games. The Devil Rays are hoping to entice fans to also visit Tropicana Field, where the team's new ownership group has spent millions to make a bland stadium a more interesting place to watch games.

Fans attending the games will receive a voucher for admission for select dates in St. Petersburg, where Sternberg has extended free parking for a second season and introduced other fan-friendly features such as a 10,000-gallon tank containing 30 cownose rays that can be touched and fed.

''A couple of years ago, most of the complaints we received were about the stadium. We have reversed that trend,'' said Silverman, who was appointed president when Sternberg took control after the 2005 season.

Additional image-shaping changes are on the way, beginning with a slight modification of team's nickname for 2008.

Although Silverman insisted it's ''not a done deal,'' the club faces a May 31 deadline to notify major league baseball of plans to change logos, uniforms, colors and likely drop the word ''Devil'' from a moniker many have opposed since the franchise's inception nine seasons ago.

''We don't expect a name change to sell tickets,'' Silverman said. ''At the same time, we don't want anyone to not support us because of the name.''

Another move the team is counting on to increase exposure outside the Tampa Bay area is the relocation of the club's spring training operations from St. Petersburg to Port Charlotte in 2009.

The Devil Rays are the first major league club to train in its home city since the St. Louis Cardinals and Philadelphia Athletics in 1919.

Like some of his players, Texas manager Ron Washington welcomes the change of pace this week, even if the objective of the Rangers' trip remains the same.

''You've still got to do the things that you would do if you were some place else,'' Washington said. ''You've got to hit, you've got to pitch and you've got to catch the ball.''

 

[spesh]

pops...or maybe TBONE...do either of you have a running master with all the daily data in it...( no not the al and nl combined page..) the popssumm and wanps ? kind of like what Tbone does with the NBA sheets....got an idea i want to run back and test.

 

[pops69]

pops...or maybe TBONE...do either of you have a running master with all the daily data in it...( no not the al and nl combined page..) the popssumm and wanps ? kind of like what Tbone does with the NBA sheets....got an idea i want to run back and test.

i have all of the wa nps data back to april 21 in the al nl combined to the starting in col BC copy it out of there and put in in any format you want

 

[spesh]

i have all of the wa nps data back to april 21 in the al nl combined to the starting in col BC copy it out of there and put in in any format you want

oh ok..didnt want to mess with that tab until i knew what it was..thanks.

 

[pops69]

anyone with holly fuck can easily see that the rangers under was the top play for today (only game with known ump) and i felt that the under was a good bet as well especially when you looked at the avg home and away scoring.

but when i looked at the detail it was not all that obvious especially if you look at the rangers home day vs night scoring averages which are very close to 10. you also take the era of both pitchers and they are way over the number as well. small win from right field should not effect much, and humidity is around 50%. than you take the fact that the under is at a premium and might even hit 9 by game time

so with all that said i'll just pass and watch the game

 

[punter]

Weather here for the Ranger game is great. 80o wind light and variable.

 

[coachesplays]

New lab rat testing system played by me was 2-2 yesterday +$325 on $100 plays. I am playing them myself and tracking them.

Todays would be as follows

Pitt -2 1/2 runs +260 Florida
Philly -2 1/2 +245 Mil
NYM -2 1/2 +240 Chi
SD -2 1/2 +260 Cincy
LAD -2 1/2 +240 St. Louis

I can tell you there will be some bad days on these but if I can make %20 roi over 100 games or so, I will post the methodology. Looks funny but I think there may be something to it. Good luck.

 

[punter]

Rain delay is hard to beleive I live no more than 5 miles west of the ballpark and the sun is shining, beautiful.

 

[spesh]

pops ck your master...in mine on col BM rows 362-370 i have some negative numbers for the HOME SEAS AVGS....might be screwing some data up

 

[pops69]

pops ck your master...in mine on col BM rows 362-370 i have some negative numbers for the HOME SEAS AVGS....might be screwing some data up

good eyes, all are april 30. i have kept every day from the april 20 on so let me see what causing it and let you know. tks

 

[punter]

Rain delay is hard to beleive I live no more than 5 miles west of the ballpark and the sun is shining, beautiful.

However, ever since and even before Bud Short moved them here from DC they seem to have this black cloud hanging over their heads.

 

[pops69]

pops ck your master...in mine on col BM rows 362-370 i have some negative numbers for the HOME SEAS AVGS....might be screwing some data up

figure it out, when i was doing the holly fuck format change i copied and paste the data in the wrong row, it's repair and ready to go

one thing to keep an eye out for are pitchers with the wrong l/r i dont know pitchers all that well and if i get them wrong from the people that collect the weekly data, it goes into the master wrong

tks and gl

 

[pops69]

New lab rat testing system played by me was 2-2 yesterday +$325 on $100 plays. I am playing them myself and tracking them.

Todays would be as follows

Pitt -2 1/2 runs +260 Florida
Philly -2 1/2 +245 Mil
NYM -2 1/2 +240 Chi
SD -2 1/2 +260 Cincy
LAD -2 1/2 +240 St. Louis

I can tell you there will be some bad days on these but if I can make %20 roi over 100 games or so, I will post the methodology. Looks funny but I think there may be something to it. Good luck.

where to you find -2-, or are you doing some kind of combination bet to get that hight. our data shows all the margin of vicory etc

 

[pops69]

anyone with holly fuck can easily see that the rangers under was the top play for today (only game with known ump) and i felt that the under was a good bet as well especially when you looked at the avg home and away scoring.

but when i looked at the detail it was not all that obvious especially if you look at the rangers home day vs night scoring averages which are very close to 10. you also take the era of both pitchers and they are way over the number as well. small win from right field should not effect much, and humidity is around 50%. than you take the fact that the under is at a premium and might even hit 9 by game time

so with all that said i'll just pass and watch the game

that's why i always say look at the detail the supports the summary numbers, and dont leave home w/o em

 

[punter]

where to you find -2-, or are you doing some kind of combination bet to get that hight. our data shows all the margin of vicory etc

Yesterday he said 5dimes