Capitalism rears it's ugly head wonce again.

[Dave007inVegas]

A Washington Examiner evaluation of Walmart's employee healthcare plan rated it superior to and more affordable than Obamacare. Over the years, Walmart has been undermined by unions and liberal activists, who claim that the retail giant is “notorious” for providing “substandard” healthcare plans.

The former president of the Illinois State Association of Health Underwriters, Robert Slayton, said that in Chicago, Obamacare offers a restricted list of hospital participation. Walmart, on the other hand, belongs to a national healthcare network that provides almost twice as many participating hospitals. What's more, Walmart's network of doctors dwarfs Obamacare's. “You will notice there are 9,837 doctors [under Obamacare]. But the larger network is 24,904 doctors. Huge, huge difference,” Slayton said.

Moreover, Former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey (R), who is now a health care advocate, affirmed that Obamacare lacked first-class hospitals. “It’s not just the number, but who they are," she added. "You’ll find under the Obamacare exchanges that the academic hospitals have declined to participate, along with the specialists who practice at those hospitals. The same is true of cancer hospitals.”

Unfortunately, many top-rated hospitals included in the Walmart plan – such as the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics – are left out of most Obamacare exchange plans. Astonishingly, McCaughey cautions, “People who are seriously ill need to stay away from these exchange plans."

In addition to better care, the Journal of the American Medical Association revealed that unsubsidized Obamacare enrollees will incur monthly premiums up to nine times higher than Walmart premiums. JAMA indicated that the unsubsidized premium for a nonsmoking couple age 60 can cost $1,365 per month, while the Walmart monthly premium for the same couple would be $134 per month.

 

[The Guesser]

The first Commenter in the story tore it to threads. Briiliant:
Scott Skogerboe · Top Commenter · Colorado State UniversityWow, Look at how dishonest this article is. First of all after reading the entire article it is plain to see it was a story geared to anger low information voters who only read the sensational headlines. It was written by a group called Watchdog.org and picked up by USNews and World Report. Who is Watchdog.org? I did a little digging and it is funded 95% by the Koch Brothers. But if that wasn't enough to tell me how biased it would be, I'm not such an ideologue to claim that my side is always right and the right is always wrong, I actually read the article. It turns out the article was NOTHING more than a hit piece to further anger the hard right. The article tells us of the Top 18 Hospitals in our country, as of yet only 3 accept plans on the exchange. But it takes reading the entire article to learn the rest of the story. In previous research I learned in my state Colorado, United Health care is the #1 healthcare provider. How many of those same 18 top Hospitals accept United? The answer is 4. How many accept Tricare? the answer is 3. How many accept Cigna? The answer is 3. My insurance Anthem Blue Cross does the best with 6 of the 18 accepting it. The Mayo Clinic, joins 5 other top hospitals only accepting a single insurance plan.

But the dishonesty of the Koch Brothers has done its duty, to stoke the flames of hatred across this country targeting folks like all those commenting below who obviously didn't read past the headline. The Koch Brothers by funding shadow groups like Watchdog.org willfully and purposefully strive to spread half truths and lies at every opportunity to further their hard right agenda.

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[vitterd]

The first Commenter in the story tore it to threads. Briiliant:
Scott Skogerboe · Top Commenter · Colorado State UniversityWow, Look at how dishonest this article is. First of all after reading the entire article it is plain to see it was a story geared to anger low information voters who only read the sensational headlines. It was written by a group called Watchdog.org and picked up by USNews and World Report. Who is Watchdog.org? I did a little digging and it is funded 95% by the Koch Brothers. But if that wasn't enough to tell me how biased it would be, I'm not such an ideologue to claim that my side is always right and the right is always wrong, I actually read the article. It turns out the article was NOTHING more than a hit piece to further anger the hard right. The article tells us of the Top 18 Hospitals in our country, as of yet only 3 accept plans on the exchange. But it takes reading the entire article to learn the rest of the story. In previous research I learned in my state Colorado, United Health care is the #1 healthcare provider. How many of those same 18 top Hospitals accept United? The answer is 4. How many accept Tricare? the answer is 3. How many accept Cigna? The answer is 3. My insurance Anthem Blue Cross does the best with 6 of the 18 accepting it. The Mayo Clinic, joins 5 other top hospitals only accepting a single insurance plan.

But the dishonesty of the Koch Brothers has done its duty, to stoke the flames of hatred across this country targeting folks like all those commenting below who obviously didn't read past the headline. The Koch Brothers by funding shadow groups like Watchdog.org willfully and purposefully strive to spread half truths and lies at every opportunity to further their hard right agenda.


Lol...another discredited right wing piece at rx

 

[akphidelt]

Lol, Guesser just made this thread useless. Will anyone on the right admit to it? Absolutely not. The cult does not care about truth. They will hide and just wait for the next made up story they find on the internet.

 

[Acebb]

The first Commenter in the story tore it to threads. Briiliant:

That is, if you believe things that liars type confirming your biases.

You have not one utter clue as to whether or not what was said was true. You read "Koch" and basically went all Pavlov's Dog on us.

Good job.

 

[schiff]

That is, if you believe things that liars type confirming your biases.

You have not one utter clue as to whether or not what was said was true. You read "Koch" and basically went all Pavlov's Dog on us.

Good job.

They say the right is a cult. There isn't a bigger cult than the libtards in libtradville.

 

[Acebb]

For example, this:

Look at how dishonest this article is. First of all after reading the entire article it is plain to see it was a story geared to anger low information voters who only read the sensational headlines. It was written by a group called Watchdog.org and picked up by USNews and World Report. Who is Watchdog.org? I did a little digging and it is funded 95% by the Koch Brothers

Contains 2 lies.

Both easily debunked.

Yet you posted it as if it were true.

Want to guess why that is?

 

[vitterd]

That is, if you believe things that liars type confirming your biases.

You have not one utter clue as to whether or not what was said was true. You read "Koch" and basically went all Pavlov's Dog on us.

Good job.

Actually, once it's seen it is a Koch brothers production.....you gotta realize it's bullshit. Those guys are hacks.

 

[festeringZit]

When you're a libtard, this is the way it works: If it makes the Messiah look good, it's true. If it criticizes him, it's false.

Amazing how that works.

 

[Acebb]

Actually, once it's seen it is a Koch brothers production.....you gotta realize it's bullshit. Those guys are hacks.

Um, it isn't in a "koch brothers publication"

Notice that instead of actually trying to address the topic, you trying to change the topic.

Want to guess why that is?

 

[Acebb]

It must be magical to live in a world where you can just assign something to a "Koch brothers publication" in order to dismiss any fact that is inconvenient to your silly, dipshit political ideas.

It is kind of like being a 5 year old.

 

[vitterd]

Um, it isn't in a "koch brothers publication"

Notice that instead of actually trying to address the topic, you trying to change the topic.

Want to guess why that is?

Why do you guys have so much trouble ignoring a bad source? When it comes to politics, where the story comes from is most important. When stories initiate from the koch brothers, brietbart, drudge, fox.....it always comes with a republican slant and is almost always completely false or only tells half the story.

For some reason you guys will buy anything from anyone, as long as it bashes obama.....the who and the why....is just not a care for you guys.

 

[akphidelt]

When you're a libtard, this is the way it works: If it makes the Messiah look good, it's true. If it criticizes him, it's false.

Amazing how that works.

Troll at work

 

[vitterd]

It must be magical to live in a world where you can just assign something to a "Koch brothers publication" in order to dismiss any fact that is inconvenient to your silly, dipshit political ideas.

It is kind of like being a 5 year old.

Accepting something that has almost no truth to it.....just because it fits your poliitcal ideas.....is what a dipshit does

 

[The Guesser]

The wingnut loons have their answer. They will ignore it, or deflect it, or reject it because Breitbart or The Blaze Or Fox News doesn't "report" it, but The Truth ALWAYS Wins- ALWAYS:

http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/the_koch_brothers_media_invest.php?page=all

Still, some clues to the brothers’ media priorities emerge from their biggest journalism investment to date: years of substantial and undisclosed donations to an ambitious, right-leaning investigative nonprofit focused on state and regional issues. The outlet, called the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, was founded in 2009, as its About page explains,

to help fill the void created as the nation’s newspapers cut back on their statehouse news coverage and investigative reporting in the wake of falling circulation and revenues. We look at the bigger picture, provide analysis that’s often missing from modern news stories, and do more than provide “he-said, she-said” reports from the state Capitol.​

In 2011, fully 95 percent of the Franklin Center’s revenues came from a charity called Donors Trust, whose top contributors were the Koch brothers. (CJR first profiled the Franklin Center last September.)
The Franklin Center, in turn, created a website of state-based reporting, called Watchdog.org—fed by “a network of journalists reporting on state and local governments.” The Watchdog.org site serves as a hub for stories from Watchdog outlets in 23 states. (Editor’s note: See comment from author below detailing the nature of the financial relationship between the Kochs and the Watchdog sites.)

 

[Acebb]

Accepting something that has almost no truth to it.....just because it fits your poliitcal ideas.....is what a dipshit does

You can't point out a single thing that isn't true about the article.

Let alone factually explain how it "almost has no truth" to it.

 

[Acebb]

The wingnut loons have their answer. They will ignore it, or deflect it, or reject it because Breitbart or The Blaze Or Fox News doesn't "report" it, but The Truth ALWAYS Wins- ALWAYS:
)

You haven't posted any 'truth'

You have beclowned yourself by accepting silly, easily debunked lies.

 

[Acebb]

The wingnut loons have their answer.

My answer is that you're a gullible loon.

Wouldn't it be funny if you were able to post a link to this Washington Times article on the Web site you're busy trying to assign nefarious motives to?

 

[Acebb]

So this article was "written by Watchdog.org" yet mysteriously it is not on the site.

Nor is watchdog.org "funded 95% by the Koch brothers"

But hey, what's a few lies when you can't accept facts that are inconvenient?

 

[vitterd]

So this article was "written by Watchdog.org" yet mysteriously it is not on the site.

Nor is watchdog.org "funded 95% by the Koch brothers"

But hey, what's a few lies when you can't accept facts that are inconvenient?

Ummm 95 percent of the Franklin Center revenue comes from Donors Trust....whose top contributors are the Koch brothers....and the franklin center is the group who created watchdog.org......now i understand you're not brilliant....but even you can see what's going on here i would think.