Canada's Murder Rate in 2003 Drops to 30-Year Low

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OTTAWA (Reuters) - [size=-1]Canada's murder rate dropped to 30-year low last year, and is less than one-third of that in the United States, according to official figures released on Wednesday. [/size]

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Statistics Canada said the murder rate -- 1.73 victims per 100,000 people -- was down 7 percent from 2003, continuing a trend that's been going on for three decades.

By contrast, preliminary figures released two weeks ago showed the U.S. murder rate rose 1.3 percent to 5.6 victims per 100,000, holding at levels similar to those in the late 1960s.

"The (Canadian) homicide rate has generally been declining since the mid-1970s," Statistics Canada said in its daily bulletin. Last year police reported 548 murders, 34 fewer than in 2002.

Canada, which tends to pride itself on being a less violent country than its southern neighbor, has much more restrictive gun control laws than those in many individual U.S. states.

But even so, just under one-third of the murders were committed with a firearm, a similar level to that in previous years, Statscan said. Twenty-six percent of the murders were stabbings, 22 percent were beatings and 12 percent strangulation or suffocation.

The rate was lower than the 1.93 victims per 100,000 people recorded in England and Wales but slightly higher than the figures for France and Australia.

Canadian police said one in every seven homicides in 2003 involved organized crime or street gangs, while only 14 percent of victims were murdered by strangers.

"Consistent with earlier years, two out of every three adults accused of homicide in 2003 had a criminal record. Most had been previously convicted of a violent offense," said Statistics Canada.

Last years' numbers could be skewed by the fact that most of the female victims of an alleged serial killer in the western province of British Columbia were counted in the 2002 figures, when a man was arrested and the women's status changed from "missing."

The new data showed there were 33 fewer murders in British Columbia in 2003 than in 2002, while the number of murdered women across Canada fell by 50.

Pig farmer Robert Pickton is facing trial for 22 murders, and is still under investigation in connection with the disappearance of more than 60 women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside over the past decade

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What is wrong with the USA? Highest Murder rate of any nation? or close to it? Did any of you watch Bowling for Columbine? I think the Fat man really nailed the head on the coffin with that Movie...:breakit:
 

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Geez, I don't like the looks of your user name when shortened.

Yes, Mr. Moore did hit it right on the head. Despite this the R's
with all their compassionate conservatism and law and order bs
allowed the ban on assault guns to expire. Anyone with an ounce
of brains knows these guns are not for hunting nor are they needed
in self defense. The country is about 72% for this assault gun ban. Why was it not upheld--the R's folding under pressure from the NRA and
the gun manufacturers.

I like many Americans believe we should be allowed to own
reasonable weapons. However, in an Al Queda manual on terror, they are
telling people to go out and buy assault weapons in America. Please
don't try to take American's guns--but please protect us from
the kinds of weapons very few of us want.
 
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Far more people die early due to heart disease linked to a bad diet and lack of exercise than due to being shot. Apparently those statistics are forgotten by Michael Moore.
 

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Belch One said:
Far more people die early due to heart disease linked to a bad diet and lack of exercise than due to being shot. Apparently those statistics are forgotten by Michael Moore.

That's twenty times more true when talking about terrorist attacks. But, I digress ...

Canada's murder rate has been steadily declining since we abolished the death penalty over 30 years ago. We are not an 'eye for an eye' society. We don't see the need for semi-automatic and automatic weapons. We do not have a punitive approach to law and order. We do not encourage fear. We are ashamed of poverty.

In short, we'd rather address the issues at their base, than simply avenge the evildoers.
 

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stacilu.....the ban on assault weapons was a needless law on the books because there were already laws preventing owning unreasonable weapons, and these laws were based on the RATE OF FIRE of the gun.......this idea was not addressed in the hysteria to ban these assault rifles, just the thought that the guns looked evil and therefore must be, so ban them.
 

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Canada's murder rate has declined because all of the Canadian criminals have come to the USA where the pickings are easier and the courts are much more lenient.
 

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Canada's murder rate has declined because all of the Canadian criminals have come to the USA where the pickings are easier and the courts are much more lenient.
Blight, the truth doesn't really matter to you. Does it? The truth of the
matter is that the Canadian courts and justice system is much more
lenient than the US. In fact, they are among the most lenient in
the world. Please you are an embarassment, why don't you at least
try to get the facts before you talk. Amazing!!

Sport Savant--you are from Canada, please clue this clueless person.
Because I am sure he will not believe me. Thanks
 
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stacilu you are absolutely correct....

There are some Americans in Canada who are seeking residency... as they fear 'cruel & unusual punishment' in the United States. The case involves a person in the USA who was convicted to spend 25 years in Jail for Growing Marijuana.... This person was sick & was helping other sick people...

They have filed to the Canadian government seeking protection from this 'Cruel & Unusual punishment' which our charter does not allow. & abyone on our soil is protected from the Charter.

Police presence is way less than good old USA... if a cop catches you with a bag of weed he simply dumps it in the drain... thats all (as long as its a small amount).... why would we fill our Jails with Pot Smokers like you jokers down there in the States? & you wonder why people are angry?

Things are very segragated in the USA, blacks, whites, latino's.....

Here in Canada it is one big melting pot....
 
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criminals have come to the USA where the pickings are easier and the courts are much more lenient.
actually this comment is so ridiculous it is laughable.... USA has more men in Jail per Capita than any other nation.... I once read some statistics on this that I cannot remember off the top of my head but they were shocking...
 

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stacilu you are absolutely correct....

There are some Americans in Canada who are seeking residency... as they fear 'cruel & unusual punishment' in the United States. The case involves a person in the USA who was convicted to spend 25 years in Jail for Growing Marijuana.... This person was sick & was helping other sick people...

They have filed to the Canadian government seeking protection from this 'Cruel & Unusual punishment' which our charter does not allow. & abyone on our soil is protected from the Charter.

Mr. Blight

Any comments about this, probably not. You are consistently wrong,
you simply "react," and say whatever you think is true. Could this
be a lesson for you? Probably not? Will you answer concerning this bold faced inaccuracy, probably not? Just puke out some other
bs until somebody proves you wrong again. Aren't you the least
bit ashamed???
 

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You both prove my point - In the good ole USA, they'll let the hardened criminal go free and dump on some poor schmuck for lighting up a joint!

In Massachusetts, we have one of the toughest gun laws in the country, yet it's rarely used on criminals with records.

The courts are selective, and hardened criminals, who know the system, are rarely prosecuted.

stacilu - as a government hack, I'd assume you'd know something about how the courts function - were you a courtroom hack in one of your many jobs?
 

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Amazing, he tries to twist his words again. First we
have lenient courts, then we don't have lenient courts.
Then the courts are only lenient on hardened criminals.
Tell that to the dozens of innocent men recently released
because dna proved them innocent. Pretty lenient,
jerk off.

This guy is a true "village idiot,". Typical, he will
call me a "hack," because he has no facts. When
proven wrong he resorts to name calling. Very
easy to name call Mr. Blighted. I can do it too,
jerk off. And that is an insult to village idiots
and jerk offs.
 

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Blighted

No reply, come on be a sport. The guys are here and
waiting anxiously. Aren't you playing anymore?
You fell for the trap everytime. are you giving
up? We need to laugh at your stupidity.
 

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bblight said:
You both prove my point - In the good ole USA, they'll let the hardened criminal go free and dump on some poor schmuck for lighting up a joint!
He has a point.

In the future, the US will probaly have to pay reparations to the Iraqi people.

Meanwhile the perp plays rounds of golf, immune from prosecution.
 

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I wonder what the real murder rate is..take out the inner city thugs murdering one another over drugs...that's gotta be half the murders, maybe 67% even...
 

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I wonder what the real murder rate is..take out the inner city thugs murdering one another over drugs...that's gotta be half the murders, maybe 67% even...

Inner city 'thugs' are an American phenomenon. We have poor areas, and some smatterings of gang-like activity, but we don't have the Canadian equivalent of Compton.
 

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If drugs could be taken out of the equation, the murder
rate would be cut in half. A large number of crimes
are either caused by people trying to get money for
drugs or drug pushers killing each other. An answser
that the American people are not ready for it to decrimanzlize
some of these drugs. If an idiot wants to harm his body
and does no harm to anybody else--let him. Take the
incentive away from the criminal and crime decreases
drastically. These substances could be easily regulated
just like alcohol. But of course, many (holier than thou)
and other nuts cannot see the logic. Thus, this war on
drugs that we are losing for the past 50 or so years will
sadly continue.
 

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ohmygod! Something must be wrong with me - I agree with stacilu - they should at least decriminalize marijuana; and, at a minimum, start selling some of the other, harder and more addictive drugs to people already dependant or addicted via a prescription program - this would pretty much dry up the revenue stream for the gangs and decrease the gang related murder rate.
 

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See you can't be 100% wrong all the time. You may not
be as conservative as you think. Oh, I forgot you are a
moderate.
 

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