ok poker,....football,...hey it is diffrent?,..yeah??,.....i know there are handicappers who have all the stats for teams and match ups,....on the entire schedule,...they kick butt,...dont doubt that,....but the thing i see over and over again is that,....forget the math on key games,....the media/writers,...get you on one side,...the off shores undercut the smaller loacals,.....it happens time and time again,...i mean hey i was on philly tonight,...bet them small,...and actually just getting a laugh out of this entertaining game,...........in fact told my local older retired bookie,...well the off shores are at 2 1/2 and your at 3 so i am probally on the wrong side,...lol,...now that is funny,....but hey useing that as an example,.......just keep track( if you have a decent local guy) and the off shores,....escpecially on a national,...only game to bet on game),.....i think you will see that somehow, someway,...it appears the buisness end roars its ugly head up,....as it doesnt matter what math skills/stats you have,......when the off shores offer the better value,......more times than not,...you will be donating part of your hard earned paycheck,...never mind any math stats,.....i just ask people keep track of it and see what im saying,.....hope you get some winners or atleast stay off of some of those speed bumps. gl