Can someone tell me what's up with Colorado -3.5 Toledo?

[Delta00]

Is this the trap line of the year or what? Sure, CU looked a little weak agaisnt a monster experienced CSU line yesterday, but they still have a decent running offense.

Toledo is, well, toledo. They got blown out by shit Purdue.

Is colorado going to overlook toledo after starting 0-1? Are they deflated from being embarassed by their underdog rival at home?

I don't get how this line is so low, and imagine everyone will be on it.

 

[bigtendominator]

Is this the trap line of the year or what? Sure, CU looked a little weak agaisnt a monster experienced CSU line yesterday, but they still have a decent running offense.

Toledo is, well, toledo. They got blown out by shit Purdue.

Is colorado going to overlook toledo after starting 0-1? Are they deflated from being embarassed by their underdog rival at home?

I don't get how this line is so low, and imagine everyone will be on it.

Toledo has been very competetive at home in years past. Friday night game, they will have a good crowd.

Unusual for them to get a named Big 12 team. CU is pretty bad, but I believe this is solid play.

I understand where you are coming from, but I think CU has more success on both side of the LOS in this game.

 

[sdf]

not to mention CU has less time to prepare as they had a Sunday game and have to travel

 

[hellah10]

They got blown out by shit Purdue.

because of unforced errors... 2 interceptions and a fumble that fell right into the laps of the Purdue defenders

but toledo's rush defense sucked (like it has for decades)

 

[WVUCarter]

Don't overeact to a bad week 1

 

[JohnnyMac]

Bet the over.

 

[fadethepublic1]

teams that were dd favorites the previous week (and lost SU) usually don't bode well the following week. Especially if they are on the road. I read this somewhere last year. ATS record was like 55-60%.

 

[YourAllAmerican]

teams that were dd favorites the previous week (and lost SU) usually don't bode well the following week. Especially if they are on the road. I read this somewhere last year. ATS record was like 55-60%.

Looks like those teams were 18-15-1 ATS last year and 70-56-5 dating back to 2000. Those numbers aren't broken down to home/road or confined only to Division I opponents, though.

 

[cocktailsnlongshots+]

got 2 words 4 ya "mac mafia"...would u be suprised if toledo wins this going away?...i don't trust one thing about this conference...'shady' is putting it mildly...at first glance the buffs seem like the logical approach...but when it comes to 'mac' games there is no logic....

 

[terps1313]

Colorado shouldn't be favored against anyone after that performance. Toledo still put 31 on the board against Purdue. They have a solid offense. I will take the pts.

 

[GoSooners]

I like Colorado here.

 

[cacheman]

I still remember that game last year when Fresno St. appeared to be an easy cover, as they play so tough on the road. Toledo covered in a shootout. One of the cappers on this forum mentioned something about Toledo being a different team at home, based stadium, enviroment, etc... However, Toledo did give up over 300 yards rushing against Purdue. Ouch!

 

[YourAllAmerican]

If they were playing in Boulder, I'm pretty certain I'd be on the Buffs. It's been said many times that teams are neither as good nor as bad as they look in Week 1, and I think that's the case here.

The game being in Toledo is probably going to scare me off from playing the game.

I think the short week may actually work in CU's favor, as that may mean they don't have time to dwell on that ugly loss to CSU.

 

[hellah10]

One of the cappers on this forum mentioned something about Toledo being a different team at home, based stadium, enviroment, etc... However, Toledo did give up over 300 yards rushing against Purdue. Ouch!

once upon a time... those who entered the glass bowl usually left a loser... that includes byron leftwich, larry fitzgerald, drew brees, and ron johnson.... that was yesteryear of the gary pinkel days and the early era of tom amstutz... it was fun attending those games (especially 8th ranked pitt)

our beloved rockets typically play very good at home, but their inability to stop the run concerns me. I will be attending the game, but theres no way that i will be betting it.

Also, morgan williams will miss this game as part of his 2 game suspension

 

[GoSooners]

With CU losing to CSU on Saturday it gives us much more line value with the Buffs. They would have more than likely been 6.5 to 7 point favorites going into this game had they won. And it would have been a much different situation. I think you'll see quite a bit of improvement from the first to the second week with CU. You have to realize that the CSU/CU game is a big rivalry game that these teams prepare weeks for. And they know each other's games pretty well. A much different situation than what we'll see this week with CU coming off 4 days rest. And 5 for Toledo. I don't think the short turnaround will make any difference at all for either team this early in the season. In fact I kind of like the quick turnaround here. It doesn't give CU too much time to steam over a first game loss. This is a big game for Hawkins. If he loses this one he's gone. I think he'll have this team ready. There's a few other factors I like with CU and don't like with Toledo going into this game. If I decide to play it in my thread I'll bring it up.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Also, Toledo's new coach Beckman was the DC at Okie State, so it is not like Hawkins is unfamiliar with what he runs.

 

[GoSooners]

Also, Toledo's new coach Beckman was the DC at Okie State, so it is not like Hawkins is unfamiliar with what he runs.

The OSU defensive players didn't have any nice things to say about Beckman after he left. I've been wrong about these things before, but something tells me he's going to turn out to be a dud of a HC.

 

[jblonghorn]

I won't ever back Colorado again with Hawkins at the helm. To have shown up and played the way CU did last week, at home, to your rival is unacceptable. I like Toledo getting the points. And Beckman will have the team fired up for their 1st home game and a chance to win a big game against a Big XII name. I don't know that I'll play it either though.

 

[yellowman]

Living here in Colorado and follwoing CU/CSU pretty closely, I'll chime in.

Last week's game is a FAR bigger game for CSU than it is for CU. Much like CU does when playing Nebraska, CSU always seems to give CU their best effort, regardless of perceived talent or record. My only concern with CU vs Toledo is that CU only ran for 29 yards against CSU's (on paper) poor defense. I hear that Purdue seemed to run the ball at will against Toledo, which would counter that fear. It seemed like vs. CSU, the Rams came out and scored on the opening possession and the Rams' players really believed they could win the game. CSU jumped on the Rams, leading 20-3 at half (should have been worse) and basically coasted home. CU will be in trouble in any game in which it cannot dictate the pace of the game, as Hawkins is a servicable QB at best - although he is a pretty decent game manager. I believe CU's RB's and more importantly OL is far better than they showed on Sunday.

CU's defense is very susecptible to the big play, as CSU gained about 60% of its offensive yardage on 5 plays. Outside of those big plays, the Buff D played pretty well - their offense was just plain stale for much of the game. The key will be how well they contain what seems like a pretty solid Toledo offense.

I also will echo the poster who said teams are usually not as good nor bad as week 1 and I think that holds true here. With CU's poor performance on Sunday, the extra points are a gift and I will be on CU Friday. If I had to lean to a side, I'd say under, but I'd wait until game time as I think the total (54) should go up by gametime.

 

[Jetplane]

Bet the over.

probably the smartest bet in the game... but I'm also on the CU side. should be guns 'a blazin for both teams.