Can Oregon overcome their recruiting and win a National Championship?

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Pete Carroll is coming back to coach U$C?

I dont see your current staff getting to the final 4 IMO.
I agree. I'll have to see it to believe it. I always thought USC was better when they had the west coast offense with a good running game. With the talent they field, I don't really think they need all of the bells and whistles that Sark brought in. But I guess time will tell.
 

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Sooners,


Great commentary through this thread and spot on. I think in retrospect the Pac 12 was a tad overrated as their bowl wins came against shit teams even though they had a good record.
Yeah, I think the Pac-12 was a bit overrated this year and bit underrated last year. So it pretty much all evens out. Most of it is about matchups when it comes to these bowls. The Pac didn't have quite as many favorable matchups this year. And a couple played in bowls that they didn't really care about, like ASU having to play Duke in the Sun Bowl after being a potential final four team just a few weeks earlier.
 

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I still think we are not that far off...we'll keep upgrading and eventually get it done... this wasn't our best team...
I would like to see Oregon get more blue chip recruits for their defensive line. This is the area where I've always thought they were lacking a little. I can't remember the kids name, but I remember reading earlier this year about a 5 star recruit defensive lineman from Texas that Oregon was close to getting last year. But when he flew up there from Texas with his mother, they had several flight delays and getting stuck in an airport for hours before finally getting to Eugene after 7 hours. Well, the kid's mother said that she couldn't go through those kinds of problems again in going to see her son play, so she talked him in to staying closer to home and he ended up at LSU. This is the main problem that Oregon has in getting the kinds of players that it takes to get them over the hump. They are a far outpost type of school that has few in-state players on their team compared to an Ohio State, who can get just about anybody they want from a heavily populated state. And that doesn't even include the southern states that Meyer dips into for the rest. So geography is the biggest hump that Oregon has to overcome.
 

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I would like to see Oregon get more blue chip recruits for their defensive line. This is the area where I've always thought they were lacking a little. I can't remember the kids name, but I remember reading earlier this year about a 5 star recruit defensive lineman from Texas that Oregon was close to getting last year. But when he flew up there from Texas with his mother, they had several flight delays and getting stuck in an airport for hours before finally getting to Eugene after 7 hours. Well, the kid's mother said that she couldn't go through those kinds of problems again in going to see her son play, so she talked him in to staying closer to home and he ended up at LSU. This is the main problem that Oregon has in getting the kinds of players that it takes to get them over the hump. They are a far outpost type of school that has few in-state players on their team compared to an Ohio State, who can get just about anybody they want from a heavily populated state. And that doesn't even include the southern states that Meyer dips into for the rest. So geography is the biggest hump that Oregon has to overcome.

not surprising that some kid and his mother from Texas were that narrow minded
 

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not surprising that some kid and his mother from Texas were that narrow minded
You would be surprised though at how much the proximity to home for a recruits mother or parents that goes into their decision to play for a school. Many are poor and can't afford to even fly. Especially from some of the prospects down south. That's why it's hard to get the really good 4 and 5 star recruits to leave the SEC regions. Urban Meyer is basically the only coach that I've seen have great success down south. But he is a proven winner. If he didn't have any national championships under his belt, he couldn't get those kids. If they have to go up north and freeze their asses off, they want to be guaranteed a title!
 

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not surprising that some kid and his mother from Texas were that narrow minded

Hahaha so it's 'narrow minded' to not enjoy flight delays? Everyone except for narrow minded Texans just loooove flight delays I guess.
 

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You would be surprised though at how much the proximity to home for a recruits mother or parents that goes into their decision to play for a school. Many are poor and can't afford to even fly. Especially from some of the prospects down south. That's why it's hard to get the really good 4 and 5 star recruits to leave the SEC regions. Urban Meyer is basically the only coach that I've seen have great success down south. But he is a proven winner. If he didn't have any national championships under his belt, he couldn't get those kids. If they have to go up north and freeze their asses off, they want to be guaranteed a title!

This is why so many people talk about the 500 mile radius. That is the average distance a division 1a player travels from home to play ball.
 

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Oregon has speed. But Ohio State showed itself to have speed and power. If there ever was a year for the Ducks, this was it with basically the best player in the game. I've always thought recruiting limits "can" be overcome, of course development has to be top-notch. I watched Nebraska have one of the greatest 5 year runs with basically the same recruiting disadvantages as Oregon right now, distance, 20ish rated classes, etc. But last night I finally bought into that combination of recruiting-disadvantages and style of offense as just a dollar short of getting it done. As much as I like Oregon, they are the Atlanta Braves of cfb. Unless, they do get some more dudes in the trenches, I can't see them winning a title with the spread. What Ohio State ran last night was power football. You saw linemen pulling, power, counter and iso. There might be some spread principles to the OSU offense, but it's a heavy dose of old school football. I fear the window may have closed up on Oregon. With the way recruiting is, this 2nd title game loss just became a tool to recruit against them. I'm not saying they are going away. They should stay very much on the national scene. But we know the SEC isn't going anywhere and now the Big Ten East making a splash with a title winner and a major coach hire, the pack just got more crowded for Oregon.
 

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Nebraska in the 90s consistently got top 10ish classes, a couple of top 5. The 1996 class was #2 in the nation . Their average class ranking was closer to Ohio states us now than Oregons...

I'd compare Oregons run to Butler under Brad Stevens. Bobby Cox won like 20 straight division titles...Oregon has just been lucky USC and UCLA were down the past 5 years.
 

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Buffalo Bills made it to four SUPER BOWLS...lost all four. Would it have been better for the team not to have make that accomplishment?

Oregon had a great season...didn't win the big one....my Alabama team who I thought would dominate Oregon didn't even get there.

My take is Oregon deserves a lot of credit for what they have accomplished the past few years. OK, they lost twice in the BIG GAME. Hell, why AIN'T your team playing for the national title.

Rather than worry about the Oregon Ducks....tell the forum about you're fine team and when they will be at the "Big One".
 

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Perhaps you posted in wrong thread? This is a thread about Oregons recruiting obstacles and potential.

Go ahead. Read the thread title or have your caregiver read it for you...
 

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Nebraska in the 90s consistently got top 10ish classes, a couple of top 5. The 1996 class was #2 in the nation . Their average class ranking was closer to Ohio states us now than Oregons...

I'd compare Oregons run to Butler under Brad Stevens. Bobby Cox won like 20 straight division titles...Oregon has just been lucky USC and UCLA were down the past 5 years.

This UCLA team has been as good as they have been in several years and still can't compete with us....WTF are you talking about them being down.... USC has been taking some beatings from us even in there good years.....at least come In here with the facts
 

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CP is a white guy pretending he's black.

Hits the crack pipe and thinks he's a "brother".

Put him on silence or whatever the button is...crackhead !
 

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Nebraska in the 90s consistently got top 10ish classes, a couple of top 5. The 1996 class was #2 in the nation . Their average class ranking was closer to Ohio states us now than Oregons...

I'd compare Oregons run to Butler under Brad Stevens. Bobby Cox won like 20 straight division titles...Oregon has just been lucky USC and UCLA were down the past 5 years.

Not quite true. Before 1994, NU's first title, Nebraska was very volatile in classes. The 1987-1994 classes averaged 18th. After they won a few titles, they did experience the typical success boost. (EDIT: these rankings are a composite of, per the article link: ESPN, Scout, Rivals, 247Sports, Emfinger, Lemming, SuperPrep, Prep Star, Blue Chip Report, and the National Recruiting Advisor.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF HUSKER RECRUITING RANKINGS

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Not quite true. Before 1994, NU's first title, Nebraska was very volatile in classes. The 1987-1994 classes averaged 18th. After they won a few titles, they did experience the typical success boost. (EDIT: these rankings are a composite of, per the article link: ESPN, Scout, Rivals, 247Sports, Emfinger, Lemming, SuperPrep, Prep Star, Blue Chip Report, and the National Recruiting Advisor.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF HUSKER RECRUITING RANKINGS

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So that's 5 composite top 10 classes over a 10 year period for Nebraska. Has Oregon ever had a top 10 class? Even once?
 

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This UCLA team has been as good as they have been in several years and still can't compete with us....WTF are you talking about them being down.... USC has been taking some beatings from us even in there good years.....at least come In here with the facts

UCLA won their conference 4 times in the 80's and 3 times in the 90's. Haven't won one since. That's down.
 

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UCLA won their conference 4 times in the 80's and 3 times in the 90's. Haven't won one since. That's down.

since 2000 when we started our run the UCLA teams the last two years have been there best...To get to the top of the Pac 12 its trying to beat USC & Stanford.....not UCLA....
 

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since 2000 when we started our run the UCLA teams the last two years have been there best...To get to the top of the Pac 12 its trying to beat USC & Stanford.....not UCLA....

Right. UCLA has been down since you 'started your run' in 2000. They have won 0 titles after winning 5 of the previous 20. Even mentioning Stanford is laughable.
 

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