Can anyone please tell me the cost of a 401k withdrawal?

Search

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
2,549
Tokens
I was thinking about withdrawing $20,000 from my retirement account.
I understand that they charge me 10% right off the bat to take it out, so I really get $18,000. After that, I am not sure of the charges, cost, taxes and all that. Does the IRS take out another 10%, and how about taxes? I have to pay taxes on $20,000? Can anyone please tell me how much that would be approximately? I had no idea how much that would be. I live in Ohio. Thanks in advance.
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
Joined
Mar 31, 2006
Messages
24,692
Tokens
10% penalty and you report it as income on your tax return
 

Underground
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Messages
2,930
Tokens
It all depends if it is a hardship or if your 401K company will let take a loan out on it.

I've had two different ones.
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
Joined
Mar 31, 2006
Messages
24,692
Tokens
Hardship Basics

A hardship withdrawal is not like a plan loan. The withdrawal may be difficult to get, and costly if you receive it. Remember, your 401k is meant to provide retirement income. It should be a last-resort source of cash for expenses before then.

Knowing that workers would resist putting aside money for decades with no chance to access it, Congress made provisions in the 401k rules to allow plan withdrawals in a limited number of hardship situations. These include:

* Un-reimbursed medical expenses for you, your spouse, or dependents.
* Purchase of an employee's principal residence.
* Payment of college tuition and related educational costs such as room and board for the next 12 months for you, your spouse, dependents, or children who are no longer dependents.
* Payments necessary to prevent eviction of you from your home, or foreclosure on the mortgage of your principal residence.
* For funeral expenses and repair of a primary residence.

But to discourage these early hardship withdrawals, in most all cases the IRS imposes a hefty financial penalty including a 10 percent early withdrawal penalty if you are younger than 59 1/2.

You may qualify to take a penalty-free withdrawal if you meet one of the following exceptions:

* You become totally disabled.
* You are in debt for medical expenses that exceed 7.5 percent of your adjusted gross income.
* You are required by court order to give the money to your divorced spouse, a child, or a dependent.
* You are separated from service (through permanent layoff, termination, quitting or taking early retirement) in the year you turn 55, or later.
* You are separated from service and you have set up a payment schedule to withdraw money in substantially equal amounts over the course of your life expectancy. (Once you begin taking this kind of distribution you are required to continue for five years or until you reach age 59 1/2, whichever is longer.)

Employers are not required to offer any type of hardship withdrawal, so you should check with your employer to see if it is available to you.

Withdrawal Process

If you need a new car or want to take a Caribbean Cruise and want to take a 401k hardship withdrawal for that purpose, think again. These withdrawals are meant for big emergencies. You really have to need the money and have no other source of funds.

In addition to tough federal rules, you may also have to contend with a strict set of withdrawal rules from your employer.

Employers use one of two methods to issue financial hardship withdrawals. One is a proof of need. In this case, you have to show your employer financial proof that you need to take money out of your 401k. With this method, you are allowed to start contributing to your 401k plan with the next paycheck following your hardship withdrawal.

Many employers don't use this method because they really aren't interested in knowing so much about their workers' private lives. Similarly, few workers are comfortable exposing their finances to their bosses and co-workers.

The other method, called self-certification, doesn't require you to disclose your finances, but plans using this method will not allow you to make fresh 401k contributions for six months after taking the withdrawal. This further limits your ability to build a retirement nest egg.

Contact the plan administrator in the personnel department of your employer to find how if your plan offers hardships and what method they use.

Loan Alternative

Remember, once you take the money out of your plan using a hardship withdrawal, you can't put it back in and you lose for life the tax advantage on those funds.

A hardship withdrawal is not a loan. You can't repay it. But, that raises a good point. You should see if your plan offers a 401k loan as an alternative to taking a financial hardship withdrawal. Plan loans are not subject to taxes or penalties, and you can continue to contribute to the plan while you repay the loan. (Some plans will even require you to exhaust your possibilities for a loan before taking a hardship withdrawal.)

However, if you leave your employer before the loan is repaid, you must pay back the remaining balance otherwise it will be considered a withdrawal and subject to applicable taxes and penalties.

When looking for hardship withdrawal alternatives, don't forget savings in your IRA, if you have one. IRS rules allow IRA holders to withdraw up to $10,000 penalty-free when the money is used for qualified first home expenses. (That is a lifetime limit.) Also, you may take penalty-free IRA withdrawals when the savings are used to pay for qualified higher education expenses for you or your spouse, children or grandchildren.

Tax Pain

What many 401k participants, desperate for money, may forget is the cost of taking a financial hardship withdrawal. A $10,000 withdrawal does not equal $10,000 in your pocket.

If you are under 59 1/2, you will lose 35 percent to 45 percent of the withdrawal in taxes and penalties. You need to think about that.

For example: suppose you fall in the 28 percent tax bracket.

If you take a $10,000 hardship withdrawal to pay for your child's college tuition, you will owe $2,800 in federal income taxes and an additional $1,000 to cover the early withdrawal penalty. You'll be left with $6,300, or even less if you also owe state and local income tax.

Retirement Pain

Taking a hardship withdrawal can also result in longer-term pain -- a less generous retirement.

Take the example of a person who, starting at age 30, contributes $5,000 a year to her 401k plan. At age 40, she buys a house and takes a $10,000 hardship withdrawal for the down payment. Let's assume her portfolio generates an average annual return of 8 percent. By retirement at age 65, she will have $793,094. Had she not taken the hardship withdrawal she would have had $861,584, or $68,490 more.

A $10,000 withdrawal may seem insignificant today, but over time it can mean a lot.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 2, 2009
Messages
1
Tokens
Adivce

The 401(k) investment fund has been a retirement option ever since the 1980s, which means that nearly three decades of legislating have made it a complicated financial entity. Learning the legal ways to make the most of setting aside our money oftentimes involves judging whether to keep it in the 401(k) or not. To best determine that, modern Americans turn to professionals and to tips for clear guidance. This 401k Advice can and will help you.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,949
Messages
13,575,546
Members
100,888
Latest member
bj88gameslife
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com