Can anyone explain to me why Kobe was the finals MVP?

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yeah, i got lost a little on the arguement here as well...went went from Kobe shouldnt be MVP to Kobe isnt as good as MJ.....those are 2 seperate arguments, one I agree with, one i disagree with
 

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Rondo was the best player in the series. But the C's didn't win so can't give it to him. Actually, I think Kobes best game was GM 5 when the lake show lost but Bryant did everything to keep L.A in it.

Umm Rob, I hate to kill you on this since its pretty off topic to the thread even but Rondo was NOT the best player in this series. He wasn't even the best Celtic. He made some amazing plays but his lack of a jumpshot allowed Kobe to play off him and play help D the whole time. This was the biggest reason for the Celts offensive struggles in this series. As great as Rondo is an all-around player, against an elite defensive team the fact he doesn't need to be guarded very much off the ball can really kill you.
 

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See Magic Johnson 1984 NBA Finals.

Good citation BigTen, Tragic Johnson was his nickname after that finals. Rondo needs to develop a jumper to get to that next level.

Will he? I have my doubts but if Jason Kidd can I guess anyone can. Its definitely a teachable skill whereas his off the charts basketball IQ and athleticism can't really be taught
 

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these anti-kobe arguments are getting stupid.

first off, no player from losing team is winning finals mvp, shouldn't even be brought up. imagine if celtics won and a laker got mvp? people would be outraged!

and what does kobe not being as good as mj have to do with him winning mvp? by that logic, they should have retired the finals mvp award in 1998, as nobody will ever be as good as mj.

also, mj won a finals mvp shooting 41% against a seattle team that isn't in the same stratosphere defensively as this celtic team

i'm a celtic fan, but you kobe haters gotta give it up. pretty pathetic that you will hate on a guy because he isn't as good as mj..... NOBODY IS! kobe busts his ass, plays and trains hard, and is ruthless about winning. good enough for me.

*edit, i know jerry west won mvp from losing team. that was 41 years ago and won't happen again....

How come I can make a post saying Kobe shouldn't have been the Finals MVP and that means I'm a Kobe hater? I don't understand that logic at all.

This is a pretty funny quote though "kobe busts his ass, plays and trains hard, and is ruthless about winning. good enough for me."

What in the hell does that have to do with winning an MVP? I'd say 99.9% of professional athletes fit the bill you mention above. So what?
 

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You can't be serious. Kobe is a one of the best defenders in the game and he's as quick as Rondo and much bigger. Of course K. Bryant should handle guarding Rondo. One guy is 6-1 while the other is 6-6. If he didn't handle Rondo, there'd be a problem.

So you question why Kobe won MVP, then says he's one of the best defenders in the game.

Then you turn that into a negative, because if Kobe's such a good defender, of course he should stop Rondo. The same Rondo who torched the Eastern Conference?

Daniel Webster, you are not.
 

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This guy had a better series than Kobe:

Game 1- 8-14 23 Points and 14 Rebounds
Game 2-7-10 25 Points and 8 Rebounds
Game 3-5-11 13 Points and 10 Rebounds
Game 4-6-13 21 Points and 6 Rebounds
Game 5-5-12 12 Points and 12 Rebounds
Game 6-6-14 17 Points and 13 Rebounds and 9 Assists
Game 7-6-16 19 Points and 18 Rebounds

and he continuously used his body to wipe debris off the floor. He's a great player, and even better mop
 

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So you question why Kobe won MVP, then says he's one of the best defenders in the game.

Then you turn that into a negative, because if Kobe's such a good defender, of course he should stop Rondo. The same Rondo who torched the Eastern Conference?

Daniel Webster, you are not.

Being one of the best defenders in the game throughout the season has nothing to do with what he did in the series. Kobe should be expected to stop a PG and I'd say he should stop any PG in the game without a problem. Are Wade or LeBron as good as Kobe on defense...uh no. Who on Orlando can play D like Kobe? Nobody compares. To say he's a great overall defender doesn't mean he still deserved the MVP of the series. That's like saying Gasol is a great rebounder and that's what he did during the series so he deserved it.

Please don't insult my sports intelligence. Come up with a rational argument.
 

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and he continuously used his body to wipe debris off the floor. He's a great player, and even better mop

Don't quite get what you're saying but I'd argue those numbers and his rebounding and defensive presence were more deserving of the series MVP.
 

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I really have nothing to add to this because I don't care who won MVP out of Kobe/Gasol, but it would've been cool if Gasol won to see the look on Kobe's face after for a split second before he pretended he was happy for him.
 

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Don't quite get what you're saying but I'd argue those numbers and his rebounding and defensive presence were more deserving of the series MVP.

I guess it was a bad attempt at humor, I think Gasol flops a little too much, especially for a man of his size
 

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I really have nothing to add to this because I don't care who won MVP out of Kobe/Gasol, but it would've been cool if Gasol won to see the look on Kobe's face after for a split second before he pretended he was happy for him.

it would have worth watching the post game ceremonies just to see that. But a lot of good people around here would be crying in their soda pop too.
 

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Kobe should be expected to stop a PG and I'd say he should stop any PG in the game without a problem

By most people Kobe was also expected to be the best player on the court. Expectations should be meaningless when it comes to the MVP, all that should matter is how well the player did. If he did very well on defense, that should be a huge credit. To suggest the opposite is irrational. . .
 

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those are gasol's stats for the finals, for anyone that didnt want to look it up (i remember the near triple double)
 

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By most people Kobe was also expected to be the best player on the court. Expectations should be meaningless when it comes to the MVP, all that should matter is how well the player did. If he did very well on defense, that should be a huge credit. To suggest the opposite is irrational. . .

I agree with this statement. What I guess I'm saying is to heap praise on a guy that's 6-6 athletic SG because he stopped a 6-1 PG is kind of irrational to me.

And you're right that expectations are meaningless therefore Kobe shouldn't be expected to be given the MVP when he was shitty during the series.
 

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I maybe watched 10 minutes of the finals and could've told you Kobe was gonna be the MVP.
 

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Why is stopping Rondo so shitty?

Don't think it is at all but if you tell me that Kobe or any number of 6-6, 6-7 SG's played out of their mind because they stopped at 6-1 PG I'd tell you I don't think it's much of an accomplishment. A 6-6 SG should stop a 6-1 PG.
 
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these anti-kobe arguments are getting stupid.

first off, no player from losing team is winning finals mvp, shouldn't even be brought up. imagine if celtics won and a laker got mvp? people would be outraged!

and what does kobe not being as good as mj have to do with him winning mvp? by that logic, they should have retired the finals mvp award in 1998, as nobody will ever be as good as mj.

also, mj won a finals mvp shooting 41% against a seattle team that isn't in the same stratosphere defensively as this celtic team

i'm a celtic fan, but you kobe haters gotta give it up. pretty pathetic that you will hate on a guy because he isn't as good as mj..... NOBODY IS! kobe busts his ass, plays and trains hard, and is ruthless about winning. good enough for me.

*edit, i know jerry west won mvp from losing team. that was 41 years ago and won't happen again....

"first off, no player from losing team is winning finals mvp,"

It has happened before, between the Celtics and Lakers. 1969 Celtics won,
and Jerry West got the MVP.
 

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