Can a lock-out be avoided in the NHL?

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Another Day, Another Dollar
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What are your thoughts? I hope we get an agreement.

I am really just beginning to enjoy/respect Hockey.
 

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lockout cannot be avoided...

but once these guys don't get to cash their paychecks as they normally do...watch... their moods will change...

The average player should be all for revenue sharing & a salary cap... Only the few high priced super stars should technically be against it....
 

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they should be paid the same like the chics in "a leauge of their own"
 

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Yeah a salary cap and revenue sharing is just what the NHL needs....more money in the pockets for owners like Wirtz.
 

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There will be no hockey at least for this calendar year....unless you have a local AHL or ECHL team to root for.
 

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I would guess a 50 game season starting after Superbowl is in order. They don't get much interest until then anyways.
 

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A lockout is almost a certainty. Bettman will be holding a press conference Wednesday to announce it.
 

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NEW YORK -- The National Hockey League will lock out its players Thursday, threatening to keep the sport off the ice for the entire 2004-05 season.
The long-expected decision was approved unanimously Wednesday by NHL owners, who are demanding cost certainty, which players say would be tantamount to a salary cap.

Commissioner Gary Bettman repeatedly belittled the union's bargaining position during a news conference to announce the lockout, talked about the possibility the confrontation would extend into the 2005-06 season and said the stoppage makes it less likely the NHL will participate in the 2006 Olympics.

He made clear that this entire season could be sacrificed and said play could not extend into July.

"If there's enough time to play some games, we'll do it," he said. "If not, we won't."

The sides have not met since a bargaining session last Thursday ended with the parties far apart, and there is almost no chance the season will start as scheduled on Oct. 13. Bettman told teams to release their arenas for other events for the next 30 days.

"Unfortunately, the league has rejected all opportunities for compromise, while stubbornly insisting that Gary Bettman has the single solution to every problem -- a salary cap," union head Bob Goodenow said. "An honest partnership can never be achieved under the league's 'my-way-or-the-highway' approach. ... Gary and the owners have chosen, through a lockout, to try to force players to accept a system they know players would never agree to."

Bettman said the league's proposals would lower the average player salary from $1.8 million to $1.3 million and said past losses gave owners no other choice. He also made clear that declaring an impasse under U.S. labor law and imposing new work rules unilaterally was an option, but said it has not yet been considered.

"I think it's probably fair to say we're at an impasse right now," he said.

Owners have contributed $300 million to a league fund to help get them through a lockout, and the union has retained licensing money to help its members. Bettman said about 20 teams would lose less money during a lockout than they would if play continued.

"The present system doesn't work for us," said Jim Rutherford, the president and general manager of the Carolina Hurricanes. "We need a new system. We're all frustrated by it."

Players vow to resist a salary cap and, with the positions entrenched, a long stoppage is likely, one that could wipe out the Stanley Cup Finals for the first time since 1919, when the series between Montreal and Seattle was stopped after five games due a Spanish influenza epidemic.

"It is a sad day for all of us," Montreal owner George Gillett said. "We're trying to do this to make sure there is competitive balance for the Montreal Canadiens."
The 30 teams -- 24 in the United States and six in Canada -- had been set to start opening training camps on Thursday, the day after the expiration of the current labor contract. The deal was first agreed to in 1995 and extended two years later through Sept. 15, 2004. Bettman termed the extension "a mistake, in hindsight."

Some players are expected to sign with European leagues, and others could join a six-team, four-on-four circuit called the Original Stars Hockey League, which is set to start play Friday in Barrie, Ontario. Others could go to a revived World Hockey Association, which plans to open Oct. 29 with eight teams playing 76 games apiece.

Bettman said approximately 100 employees from the NHL's central staff of about 225 will be terminated to save money, most on Sept. 20.

The stoppage is the first for a North American major league since the 1997-98 NBA lockout canceled 464 games, cutting each club's regular-season schedule from 82 games to 50.

It is the third stoppage for the NHL following a 10-day strike in 1992 that caused the postponement of 30 games and a 103-day lockout in 1994-95 that eliminated 468 games, cutting each team's regular-season schedule from 84 games to 48. That lockout ended on Jan. 11, five days before the deadline set by Bettman to scuttle the season.

Baseball has had eight work stoppages, the last running for 7½ months in 1994-95. It caused the cancellation of 921 regular-season games over two years and wiped out the World Series for the first time since 1904. While the NFL has had four strikes, including two during the regular season, the sport has enjoyed labor peace since 1987.

NHL management claims it needs changes in the labor contract because teams are losing money, $273 million in 2002-03 and $224 million last season, according to the league.

The NHL's average salary has risen from $733,000 at the time of the last lockout to $1,830,126 last season, according to the NHL players association. While NHL revenue rose from $732 million in 1993-94 to $1.996 billion in 2002-3, the league says that player costs have increased from 57 percent of revenue to 75 percent over that period, figures the union disputes.

Unlike the other major sports, the NHL's revenue from broadcasting is relatively small, $449 million from national and local contracts and new media in 2002-03, according to the league. The five games of the Stanley Cup Finals on ABC averaged just a 2.6 rating last spring and the two on ESPN a 1.2 cable rating, according to Nielsen Media Research. This year's Super Bowl had a 41.3 rating on CBS, while last year's World Series averaged a 12.8 on Fox and this year's NBA Finals an 11.5 on ABC.


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Locked out tomorrow, no question. My guess is there will be a shortened season commencing 2 weeks into the new year.

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Just an unfortunate string of circumstances where this sport is on the fringe of being a major sport. Believe they are strongly shooting themselves in the foot with this lockout not to mention the thousands of people layed off or affected by this lockout. They have talked about it for a couple of years now and there seems to have been no real effort by both sides to settle before this time.

Long story short owners say that 75% of the budget goes to players salaries and the players say the owners are lying about their revenue. If every sport could have some sort of salary cap, I believe it strongly benefits all parties involved. Parity strongly contributes to the success of a franchise and league and there is no better example than the NFL. The cap has helped the NBA but Baseball still has lots of work to do and I don't know if baseball even has a clue, anyways back to hockey, I don't know who will blink first but a failure to achieve any type of cap will not help this sport which is already busting at the seams. I would be surprised if it lasts the whole season, a 40 game season after New Years seems realistic
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Intruder:
Yeah a salary cap and revenue sharing is just what the NHL needs....more money in the pockets for owners like Wirtz. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Post of the year. He has been talking lockout for three years now. Has been stealing from the faithful Blackhawk fans for years.
 

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I really don't care ! I hope these players are out of work for at least 2 years and are forced to get a real job and see why 1.8 Million which is the average salary perhaps wasn't such a bad deal after all.
 

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