Cal vs. KSU (-26.5)

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I for one am glad CFB season is back and I am very much looking forward to this game coming up on Saturday. I am definitely a fan of the Big 12 and KSU in general. I also enjoy seeing any team in the Big 12 pound a Pac-10 opponent and that is exactly what I am expecting to happen here.

KSU’s strength last year was it’s rushing offense. The key pieces to that attack Roberson and Sproles are back this year. I think they have some work to do on their offensive line, but that seems to be a constant in college football these days. I’m not worried about KSU’s OL coming together, especially against Cal. KSU’s passing offense was not spectacular last year, but that may have been more from a lack of emphasis rather than ability. I think Roberson showed much more maturity last year and this year I expect him to have complete command of the offense. I do not think he can burn a team passing the ball only, but set up from the run/option attack he can be very dangerous through the air.

Cal’s defense last year was not spectacular. Their rushing defense actually ranked 19th which is respectable, but I’ve always thought some Pac-10 rushing defense stats were inflated due to the fact that it is a pass happy league, IMHO. Add to that the Bears return only three starters to their defense and this will likely be a unit that will need time to gel. I’m of the opinion that playing KSU is not the best time to have a defense in need of chemistry. Cal’s defense pretty much sucked so the large amount of turnover may be a good thing. While change can certainly lead to positive results I usually like to see a softer opening schedule to give all the new players time to learn the system in real live action. I don't expect Cal to stop KSU on the ground which should lead to big plays through the air as well. I think it will get ugly.

KSU’s defense was also quite stout racking up impressive numbers against inferior OOC teams and the tough Big 12 as well. Tedford is probably known for his offensive mind and ability to develop qb’s. As far as I can tell none of Cal’s qb’s are tearing up summer practice and the battle will between a senior, who may know the system and a JUCO transfer that is currently learning it. Either way I would expect the offense to be handcuffed in it’s opening game. KSU has an aggressive defense that can become susceptible to misdirection and over pursuit. However for playing such an aggressive brand of defense they tend to stay fundamentally sound for the most part. I don’t think Cal will be able to muster the running game to keep KSU off balance. KSU biggest ? may be in their secondary. I think this is where they will have to do their damage, but with a new qb with little to no experience I don’t know that this is the best setting for that to happen.

KSU has shown time and time again that they can somewhat seamlessly move JUCO’s into the starting lineup and not skip too many beats. This is what I will expect them to do again this year. Cal on the other hand will have to prove that they can use JUCO players and freshman to fill key roles and add depth in much the same way KSU does. I will be surprised if Cal can find a cohesive unit on either side of the ball with so much turnover in game one, on the road against a good team. I will be even more surprised if they can find solid depth so early in the season as well. I think they will need both of these things in game one to have any chance to cover this spread. It’s a large number which is scary, but Snyder would run up the score on his own mother if given half the chance. Cal may be able to hang in this one for awhile, but I expect the superior team to punish them from beginning to end. I expect this one to get out of hand and unlike the Holiday Bowl last year I expect them to come out focused and bent on destroying Cal. I wouldn’t compare Cal’s team favorably to ASU’s end of the year team last year.

Therefore I like KSU (-26.5)
I haven't seen a total yet, but I'm expecting a good total to play the over on.

This is a local number, but I understand that it’s currently at 26.5 to 27.5 on the web. I like all these numbers as well but I like mine the best. I wish I had gotten in at 24, but I don’t really think it will matter. I fully expect a blowout in this one. Being on this side of a large number scares me a bit, but I do like KSU to cover it.

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still like KSU. From what i can tell from reading and talking to some friends who may or may not really know anything is that the JC transfer seems to be ahead to start at QB for the season. Seems he has impressed Tedford a little bit with his "intelligence". I don't know what that means about how fully he has picked up the system. I have also heard Cal has shown some weakness in special teams, especially in punting situations. KSU isn't great as far as FG's are concerned either (last year at least).

I don't think a starter has been named in stone yet though (probably not a good sign) although it seems that the JC transfer may have the edge. Anyway still on KSU but thought I'd update with some Cal info I gleaned over the weekend. Anyone have anything else? Feel free to chime in. I have the feeling that not everyone likes KSU here which makes me feel better. At least I think not everyone likes KSU. Win or lose at least CFB will be officially back.
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I think K St. should score at will, only turnovers will stop them. On the other hand Cal will probably be inept and frustrated on offense which may keep this game under the total. thinking 41 - 0 or so. K St will smother them with their defense. I'm thinking K st. first half and game, but assuming a total of 50 to 54 I'll stay away not feeling better about just the side. Good luck to you this season as college foots is by far my fave.
 

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edit for above I'm thinking K St. first half and game, but assuming a total of 50 to 54 I'll stay away feeling better about just the side.
 

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I got the good # when it opened, and I like KState. I'm thinking that CAL scores around 20, and I'm thinking that KState puts up their typical 45 or more. I looked at Kstate -14.5 for the first half, but I may pass on that and play KState again on the 2nd half line. Sproles and Roberson may be the best backfield in the nation.
 

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I just realized this game is not at KSU but KC. KSU will dominate the stadium but, don't like it not being in Manhatten where they destroy lesser teams. I think I am leaving this alone but GoodLUCK.
 

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If, as ATX says, Cal scores 20, then Cal might be the play. Just playing devil's advocate here, but it seems the public will be jumping on KSU. It'll take balls to go with Cal, but often balls win.
 

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Don't worry about the game being in KC. I was ther when KSU played Iowa. KSU fand will be there in droves, and tailgate up a storm. Actually the big stadium and the crowd will be even more of an advantage for KSU.

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K State will have a home crowd, but it will be natural grass -- that bothers me a little.
 

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It bothers me enough I am not playing it and if line keeps rising I may go other way.
 

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yeah it's a hefty line but I'm not expecting Cal to come out firing well enough to put up twenty plus points in this game. Last year where they played relatively well they still weren't all that good IMHO.

I definitely think there could be a large backdoor in this game, but fortunately Snyder doesn't seem to acknowledge that there is such a thing as garbage time.

Most KSU fans I know are jacked up about it being in KC. It's not too far away from Manhatten and should allow for a much larger crowd. I don't see Cal traveling any better and I'm pretty sure many (many might contain some hyperbole, but I do think it's happening) KSU fans are going through the Cal ticket office for seats. Not sure what effect that will have if any. Certainly nothing to base a decision on, but interesting nonetheless.

Also it should be much warmer than it has been in Berkeley as well. This won’t help Cal. I'm not sure they will have the offense necessary to keep their own defense off the field and I convinced they won't have enough depth to give much resistance in the second half. KSU will try to pound them into oblivion and I think it will happen. Overall it just seems that they might be a better team than last year, but that it’s going to take them awhile to show it. If this game was later in the year I might feel differently, but I’ll be shocked if Cal can put it together enough to keep this one that close.

I also concur that there will be much stronger games to play in the future, but I feel comfortable here. It also helps that I never ever play more than I can comfortably lose
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. Anyway would still like to here more opinions. I just can't wait for this thing to kick.
 

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Don't see Cal scoring double digits and see KSU scoring at least 6 TD's but there's always the bounce of the ball. Still feel relatively safe with KSU and any number. I'm on it. See it as a 42-6 game. KSU may score even more and number should be up to -28 by game time.
 

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When I say CAL may score 20 I'm being conservative. KState's defense is solid and I think CAL picks up 20-24 only in garbage time if the Wildcats are up by 38 or more. Kstate's defense may outscore CAL's offense. KState is underranked, IMO. Dont get the impression that I'm saying this game is a l***, nothing ever is, but I give Kstate a greater than 60% chance of covering -26.5, and I dont see a whole of those. I have taken the big numbers with the dog VS Kstate in the past and you can look back to see how that has gone.
 

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could the books be giving this one away. dam they have all season to make it up. but hell who knows. cal is way out classed. if kstate establishes the run early, seems like some nice stats for the heisman hopeful in the second half. boller (cal senior last year) is fighting for a job in the nfl and may get it. snider can take the will out of a team and put some nice stats on the board. hell who knows i will be after this one all week. but already caught this one coming out. see what the public does, as i already know what they will do. one game. are the books giving it away or is cal a sleeper. this one will be very lop sided at 26.5. books stand to loose a lot. guess we will see. i love it!!!!

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could the books be giving this one away. dam they have all season to make it up. but hell who knows. cal is way out classed. if kstate establishes the run early, seems like some nice stats for the heisman hopeful in the second half. boller (cal senior last year) is fighting for a job in the nfl and may get it. snider can take the will out of a team and put some nice stats on the board. hell who knows i will be after this one all week. but already caught this one coming out. see what the public does, as i already know what they will do. one game. are the books giving it away or is cal a sleeper. this one will be very lop sided at 26.5. books stand to loose a lot. guess we will see. i love it!!!!

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I saw a total of 58 somewhere and think it's too high. K St. "D" should hold Cal in check. Think game will stay under 58.
 

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Just saw on the web that Reggie Robertson has been named the starter for Cal at QB.
 

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