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I said it months ago when the BULLSHIT books were being released and even during the propaganda 9-11. The willing left wing media and all the propaganda have not helped much.

I'm certain Bush will win.
 

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Keep dreaming. Kerry will win this thing in a walk, the debates will highlight your draft dodger buddies and their shameless attacks on a man who really did fight for his country!
 

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Once again, you''re both wrong. It will be extremely close and which side it falls on is anyone's guess.
 

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An incumbent president (both elected and appointed) has NEVER lost re-election during a time or war.

Look what 9/11 did for Guillini's career. The fact that a poot candidate is in a dead heat with Bush speaks volumes about the complete and utter failure that Bush is. Of coure, there are alot of other complete and utter failures, like Out, in the world, so he still has a strong base.
 

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lander,

why do you consider bush jr. a failure?

i seriously doubt a democrat could have pulled us out of the recession that occured as a result of 9/11.
 

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"i seriously doubt a democrat could have pulled us out of the recession that occured as a result of 9/11."

It was a democrat that helped us recover from Reaganomics and then produced a surplus which dumbya squandered.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RPM:
lander,

why do you consider bush jr. a failure?

i seriously doubt a democrat could have pulled us out of the recession that occured as a result of 9/11. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RPM,
>> why do you consider bush jr. a failure?
1. He took the most historic opporunity to rally the world into a cause for goodness. The entire world was behind us post-9/11 and support are retaliation against the Taliban and the men responsible. He destroyed that with his unprovoked war based on fabrications.

2. His tax breaks are an nothing but a gift-wrapped goldmine to the people who need the money the least - the top 2%. Even Warren Buffett said the move defied logic.

3. His leadership is piss poor. He set records for vacation time in Texas and as President, while simultaneously setting execution records. How does a guy that works so little has so much time to review this cases?

4. His decisions with his appointees are questionable at best. Could a more unfit and more evil cast have been assembled than that Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft?

5. His spending is out of control. He rode a "compassionate conservative" ticket to the white house and then became the most liberal spending president ever. He flat out lied. Yes, 9/11 contriubuted, but given the situation the tax breaks were/are insane.

6. He has no foreign relation skills.

7. His inabilty to speak proper English is a poor represenation of a nation that prides itself on education.

8. He calls for a "one America" then does nothing but oversee personal attack after personal attack. This is not unique to the Democrats, he did this to the greatly respected Sen. John McCain.

9. He has achieved little on his own. He was spoon fed everything he has in life.

10. He manufactures fear for political gain. He (you know damn well he's involed) raises terror alerts at the "all too convienent times", while practically abandoning the hunt for the 9/11 mastermind (what's his name? Bush hasn't said it years so I'm starting to forget .. O-see can you Laden? No. Omaha bin ridin? I forget).

11. His huge push for the unconstitutional PATRIOT ACT.

>>i seriously doubt a democrat could have pulled us out of the recession that occured as a result of 9/11

Your boys are saying that they inherited the recession - you know "the new era of responsibility." Can you guys come up with a common falsehood, and I'll happily address it.
Thanks.
 

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common falsehood??? are you saying that 9/11 didnt effect the economy?

i disagree with most of what you are saying so i wont bother trying to respond to it all, but can you honestly say that a guy like kerry who hasnt been able to make a descision and stick with it will be a stronger leader? give me a break.
 

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common falsehood??? are you saying that 9/11 didnt effect the economy?
You said, "the recession that occured as a result of 9/11", and I corrected you by saying that "your boys are saying that they inherited the recession". Bush was president before 9/11, so inheriting a recession would dictate that 9/11 did not cause the recession. But don't shoot the messenger -- I'm just reporting Cheney's bullshit as I hear it.

If you're going to ask a question, then you should do an anti-Zell and read the answer.

There's nothing else I can do for your if you do not understand "your party's" own positions.

"i disagree with most of what you are saying so i wont bother trying to respond to it all,"
Ok, so you like to ask questions, but not answer them. I'll try to remember that before I waste any more time addressing your political concerns.

"but can you honestly say that a guy like kerry who hasnt been able to make a descision and stick with it will be a stronger leader? give me a break."
I am not an avid Kerry supporter. I am not even a Democrat, but I do realize that's tough to comprehend for some of the toe-the-liners.

You might argue that "changing your mind at some point between the ages of 22 and 60" is "indecisive" .. others might call it learning from experience and not letting the vices of stubborness and uninformed hasty decision making stand in the way of doing what's best for America.

I hear a whole lot of rhetoric about "one America", yet the RNC was nothing but an American dividing slander-fest.

It's pathetic to be a hypocryite, but it's inexusable to be in denial about it.
 

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