This is the UK legal system we're talking about here Patriot.
As his defence lawyer I would make it abundantly clear that theres not a cat in hells chance that he'll receive a fair trial in the US.
A one-eyed moslem extremist with a hook.
Hes a doomed man, the moment he sets foot on US soil.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3752517.stm
Theres a witch hunt on for moslems in the US at the moment.
It would be like deporting a black man who supported malcolm x over to an Alabama court in the fifties(60's whatever).
Pat,
when I was over in Gulf War I, I learned that the reason it was an insult to wave with your left hand is cause that's the hand they wipe their asses with, so Abu whatever lucked out.
Seriously, you'd go to a stall and there'd be no toilet paper, just a faucet.
I'm gonna sound like Archie Bunker here, but just one more reason I don't want Americans dying to bring these people democracy. They can have their food, women, music, culture, religion and customs - don't wanna have anything to do with 'em.
when I was over in Gulf War I, I learned that the reason it was an insult to wave with your left hand is cause that's the hand they wipe their asses with, so Abu whatever lucked out.
Seriously, you'd go to a stall and there'd be no toilet paper, just a faucet.
I'm gonna sound like Archie Bunker here, but just one more reason I don't want Americans dying to bring these people democracy. They can have their food, women, music, culture, religion and customs - don't wanna have anything to do with 'em.
Its called a fair and impartial legal system.
Its a real bitch to cope with if you're a bigot.
We did the witch hunt legal stuff back in the 70's with the Irish, but it came back to haunt us.
Heh. The Home Secretary will be really pissed off with the yanks putting him on the spot like this.
Don't hold your breath guys.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The hearing looks set to be the start of a lengthy court battle.
It is likely to be several months before a formal committal hearing at which a district judge will look at the evidence and decide whether it is strong enough for him to be extradited.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3754651.stm
Its a real bitch to cope with if you're a bigot.
We did the witch hunt legal stuff back in the 70's with the Irish, but it came back to haunt us.
Heh. The Home Secretary will be really pissed off with the yanks putting him on the spot like this.
Don't hold your breath guys.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The hearing looks set to be the start of a lengthy court battle.
It is likely to be several months before a formal committal hearing at which a district judge will look at the evidence and decide whether it is strong enough for him to be extradited.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3754651.stm
Sorry man, we fought 2 world wars for this chit.
(right from the beginning of both of them too
)
If you live here you're a citizen of the greatest free-est country in the world.
There are a couple of places that are probaly better if you're gay or you do drugs tho.
Its got nothing whatsoever to do with 'Mr Scumbags' rights'.
Whoever he is, Abu zippidoodaa or whatever.
Its the concept than a citizen has rights that are more important than that bigotry that permeates the monkey tree us chimps are swinging about in.
Those UK Guantanamo detainees were a good example.
You held them for 2 years without charge.
We released them in 48 hours.
We are a free country, you are...um...good at talking about being a free country.
(right from the beginning of both of them too
If you live here you're a citizen of the greatest free-est country in the world.
There are a couple of places that are probaly better if you're gay or you do drugs tho.
Its got nothing whatsoever to do with 'Mr Scumbags' rights'.
Whoever he is, Abu zippidoodaa or whatever.
Its the concept than a citizen has rights that are more important than that bigotry that permeates the monkey tree us chimps are swinging about in.
Those UK Guantanamo detainees were a good example.
You held them for 2 years without charge.
We released them in 48 hours.
We are a free country, you are...um...good at talking about being a free country.
Q&A: Abu Hamza extradition process
Abu Hamza has always denied involvement in terrorism
Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza has been arrested on an extradition warrant issued by the US government.
BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Danny Shaw takes a look at what will happen next.
Why has Abu Hamza been arrested?
Because the American authorities want to begin criminal proceedings against him on terrorism-related matters.
To do that, they have to request his extradition from the UK, and that involves arresting him.
What happens now?
The details of the extradition request - essentially the allegations against him - were put before him at an initial hearing.
That took place at Bow Street Magistrates Court sitting at Belmarsh in south-east London.
Abu Hamza was also expected be informed that he may consent to go to the United States.
What are the charges?
Mr Hamza faces 11 charges including conspiracy to take hostages and hostage-taking in connection with an attack in Yemen in 1998.
He is also charged with providing support and resources to terrorists, specifically al-Qaeda, attempting to set up a training camp for "violent Jihad" in Bly, Oregon, in 1999, attempting to set up a terror training camp in Afghanistan and supporting the Taleban.
US Attorney General John Ashcroft outlined the charges at a press conference in New York at the same time as Mr Hamza was appearing in court in London.
The Crown Prosecution Service is acting as an agent to the US authorities in this case, so it will disclose the allegations in court.
What will happen to Abu Hamza in the meantime?
The District Judge - who is a paid magistrate - decided to keep him in custody rather than release him on bail.
Normally if the matters are terrorism-related it is highly unusual for suspects to be allowed out on bail - certainly that's been the experience recently.
How long is this whole extradition process likely to take?
The full extradition hearing will probably take place in about two months.
If the judge decides that all of the conditions for extradition have been met then he will send the case to the home secretary who decides whether or not to order the extradition.
That decision has to be taken within another two months.
Abu Hamza has the right to appeal and that process could take another two to three months if not longer.
So, the process could be wrapped up by the summer, but more realistically it will probably last into the autumn or winter.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3753341.stm
Abu Hamza has always denied involvement in terrorism
Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza has been arrested on an extradition warrant issued by the US government.
BBC Home Affairs Correspondent Danny Shaw takes a look at what will happen next.
Why has Abu Hamza been arrested?
Because the American authorities want to begin criminal proceedings against him on terrorism-related matters.
To do that, they have to request his extradition from the UK, and that involves arresting him.
What happens now?
The details of the extradition request - essentially the allegations against him - were put before him at an initial hearing.
That took place at Bow Street Magistrates Court sitting at Belmarsh in south-east London.
Abu Hamza was also expected be informed that he may consent to go to the United States.
What are the charges?
Mr Hamza faces 11 charges including conspiracy to take hostages and hostage-taking in connection with an attack in Yemen in 1998.
He is also charged with providing support and resources to terrorists, specifically al-Qaeda, attempting to set up a training camp for "violent Jihad" in Bly, Oregon, in 1999, attempting to set up a terror training camp in Afghanistan and supporting the Taleban.
US Attorney General John Ashcroft outlined the charges at a press conference in New York at the same time as Mr Hamza was appearing in court in London.
The Crown Prosecution Service is acting as an agent to the US authorities in this case, so it will disclose the allegations in court.
What will happen to Abu Hamza in the meantime?
The District Judge - who is a paid magistrate - decided to keep him in custody rather than release him on bail.
Normally if the matters are terrorism-related it is highly unusual for suspects to be allowed out on bail - certainly that's been the experience recently.
How long is this whole extradition process likely to take?
The full extradition hearing will probably take place in about two months.
If the judge decides that all of the conditions for extradition have been met then he will send the case to the home secretary who decides whether or not to order the extradition.
That decision has to be taken within another two months.
Abu Hamza has the right to appeal and that process could take another two to three months if not longer.
So, the process could be wrapped up by the summer, but more realistically it will probably last into the autumn or winter.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3753341.stm
