He's hit the wall, he's 36, played in 1210 games, 1199 as a catcher, 12 as a DH.
The difference between him and Posada is Jorge has played in 1385 games, but plays 1B and DH as well, saving his knees.
Varitek has been a big part of the Sox success, but face it, he's hit the wall, and when catchers hit the wall, they hit it hard.
The difference between him and Posada is Jorge has played in 1385 games, but plays 1B and DH as well, saving his knees.
Varitek has been a big part of the Sox success, but face it, he's hit the wall, and when catchers hit the wall, they hit it hard.
Source: MLB.com
I've seen different #'s on different sites, so don't trust this as gospel.
If Roy Campanella is in the HOF, why shouldn't Posada be considered? Compare career numbers at baseball-reference dot com.
Campanella comparisons by age.
27.Robert Fick (977) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
28.Chris Hoiles (975) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
29.John Valentin (918) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
30.Phil Nevin (932) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
31.Jorge Posada (901) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
32.Jorge Posada (911) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
33.Kevin Mitchell (890) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
34.Jorge Posada (895) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
35.Jorge Posada (892) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C
source: baseball-reference dot com
Im amazed Francona sent Lowell to try and steal 2nd in the 9th down a run with Veritek, who had been swinging and missing all night up when if Veritek didnt make contact Lowell would ( and was) probably a dead duck.
One of the dumbest managerial things Ive ever seen. Francona has done a great job, doesnt get credit because with that team he's expected to win, so it was more a incredibly crazy thing out of nowhere than part of a pattern.....but sheesh. WTF was that?
One of the dumbest managerial things Ive ever seen. Francona has done a great job, doesnt get credit because with that team he's expected to win, so it was more a incredibly crazy thing out of nowhere than part of a pattern.....but sheesh. WTF was that?
I'd bet a pretty big # that Posada isn't going to the hall of fame. Are you kidding? Are they building a place next to the HOF called the "Hall of Very Good" that is gonna count as being in the Hall too?
As far Tek...Tons of wear and tear adds up and even in his prime he was never more than a .275-20-80 guy....
As far Tek...Tons of wear and tear adds up and even in his prime he was never more than a .275-20-80 guy....
The Great Roy Campanella.
Roy Campenella is head a shoulders better than anyone mentioned here.
Remember he was the first black catcher to break the color barrier in 1947.
Prior to then he had been playing in the Negro Leagues since 1937 when he made the Washington Elite Giants at the age of 15. He also played in the Mexican league in the early 40s and was elected to their HOF in 1971.
In 1946 Jackie Robinson was playing for Triple AAA Montreal in the International league grooming to be called up to the Dodgers to break the color line. Campy along with pitcher Don Newcombe were with the Nashua (New Hampshire) Dodgers of the Class B New England League, where the Dodgers felt the racial climate would be more tolerant.
The Nashua team thus became the first professional baseball team to field a racially integrated lineup in the United States in the 20th Century.
Anecdote from that year:
Campanella's 1946 season proceeded largely without racial incident,
and in one game Campanella took over the managerial duties after manager Walter Alston was ejected. Alston as we all know later became a HOF manager as skipper of the famed Boys of Summer Brooklyn Dodgers.
Anyway when Alston was ejected one day he made Campanella his replacement manager, thus Campy became the first African-American to manage white players on an organized professional baseball team.
Nashua was three runs down at the time Campanella took over.
They came back to win, in part due to Campanella's decision to use Newcombe as a pinch hitter in the seventh inning. Newcombe hit a game-tying two-run home run.
Campy goes to Brooklyn.
Jackie Robinson's first season was 1947, and Campanella began his Major League career with the Brooklyn Dodgers the following season.
Campanella's first game was on April 20, 1948. He went on to play for the Dodgers from 1948 through 1957 as their regular catcher.
In 1948, he had three different uniform numbers (33, 39, and 56) before settling down to number 39 for the rest of his career (now retired by Dodgers).
Campanella played in the All-Star Game every year from 1949 through 1956. His 1949 All-Star selection made him one of the first of four African-Americans so honored. (Jackie Robinson, Don Newcombe and Larry Doby were also All-Stars in 1949.)
Roy Campanella of the Brooklyn Dodgers tagging out Jack Lohrke of the New York Giants, 1950.
Campanella received the Most Valuable Player (MVP) award in the National League three times: in 1951, 1953, and 1955.
In each of his MVP seasons, he batted over .300, hit over 30 home runs and had over 100 runs batted in. His 142 RBIs in 1953 broke the franchise record of 130, which had been held by Jack Fournier (1925) and Babe Herman (1930). Today it is the second-most in franchise history, Tommy Davis breaking it with 153 RBIs in 1962. That same year Campanella hit 40 home runs in games in which he appeared as a catcher, a record that lasted until 1996, when it was broken by Todd Hundley.
In 1955, Campanella's third MVP season he helped propel Brooklyn to its long-awaited first-ever World Series Championship.
After the Dodgers dropped the first two games of that year's World Series to the Yankees, Campanella began Brooklyn's comeback by hitting a two-out, two-run home run in the first inning of Game 3. The Dodgers won that game, got another home run from Campanella in a Game 4 victory that tied the series, and then went on to claim the series in seven games.
After the 1957 season, the Brooklyn Dodgers relocated to Los Angeles, California, and became the Los Angeles Dodgers, but Campanella's playing career came to an end before he ever played a game there. He sufered his well chronicled auto accident in the offseason on Jan. 28. 1958.
Career highlights and awards
8x All-Star selection (1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956)
World Series champion (1955)
3x NL MVP (1951, 1953, 1955)
Los Angeles Dodgers #39 retired
Member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame
Elected 1969
Vote 79.41%
Campy was simply a great instinctive player, one that simple stats cannot really define. I have nothing against Posada or any of the other catchers mentioned here but trust me baseball people still around from that era will tell you none of them are close to being as great a player and leader than Roy Campanella was.
In 1999, Campanella ranked number 50 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Baseball Players, and was a nominee for the Major League Baseball All-Century Team.
In 2006, Campanella was featured on a United States postage stamp. The stamp is one of a block of four honoring baseball sluggers, the others being Mickey Mantle, Hank Greenberg, and Mel Ott.
In September 2006, the Los Angeles Dodgers announced the creation of the Roy Campanella Award, which is voted among the club's players and coaches and is given to the Dodger who best exemplifies "Campy's" spirit and leadership. Shortstop Rafael Furcal was named the inaugural winner of the award.
No doubt about it my mind Roy Campanella is a real Hall of Famer.
Recommended reading.
Campanella, Roy. It's Good to Be Alive, New York: Little Brown and Co., 1959. Also The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn, written in tribute to the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers in 1971.
wil.
Roy Campenella is head a shoulders better than anyone mentioned here.
Remember he was the first black catcher to break the color barrier in 1947.
Prior to then he had been playing in the Negro Leagues since 1937 when he made the Washington Elite Giants at the age of 15. He also played in the Mexican league in the early 40s and was elected to their HOF in 1971.
In 1946 Jackie Robinson was playing for Triple AAA Montreal in the International league grooming to be called up to the Dodgers to break the color line. Campy along with pitcher Don Newcombe were with the Nashua (New Hampshire) Dodgers of the Class B New England League, where the Dodgers felt the racial climate would be more tolerant.
The Nashua team thus became the first professional baseball team to field a racially integrated lineup in the United States in the 20th Century.
Anecdote from that year:
Campanella's 1946 season proceeded largely without racial incident,
and in one game Campanella took over the managerial duties after manager Walter Alston was ejected. Alston as we all know later became a HOF manager as skipper of the famed Boys of Summer Brooklyn Dodgers.
Anyway when Alston was ejected one day he made Campanella his replacement manager, thus Campy became the first African-American to manage white players on an organized professional baseball team.
Nashua was three runs down at the time Campanella took over.
They came back to win, in part due to Campanella's decision to use Newcombe as a pinch hitter in the seventh inning. Newcombe hit a game-tying two-run home run.
Campy goes to Brooklyn.
Jackie Robinson's first season was 1947, and Campanella began his Major League career with the Brooklyn Dodgers the following season.
Campanella's first game was on April 20, 1948. He went on to play for the Dodgers from 1948 through 1957 as their regular catcher.
In 1948, he had three different uniform numbers (33, 39, and 56) before settling down to number 39 for the rest of his career (now retired by Dodgers).
Campanella played in the All-Star Game every year from 1949 through 1956. His 1949 All-Star selection made him one of the first of four African-Americans so honored. (Jackie Robinson, Don Newcombe and Larry Doby were also All-Stars in 1949.)
Roy Campanella of the Brooklyn Dodgers tagging out Jack Lohrke of the New York Giants, 1950.
Campanella received the Most Valuable Player (MVP) award in the National League three times: in 1951, 1953, and 1955.
In each of his MVP seasons, he batted over .300, hit over 30 home runs and had over 100 runs batted in. His 142 RBIs in 1953 broke the franchise record of 130, which had been held by Jack Fournier (1925) and Babe Herman (1930). Today it is the second-most in franchise history, Tommy Davis breaking it with 153 RBIs in 1962. That same year Campanella hit 40 home runs in games in which he appeared as a catcher, a record that lasted until 1996, when it was broken by Todd Hundley.
In 1955, Campanella's third MVP season he helped propel Brooklyn to its long-awaited first-ever World Series Championship.
After the Dodgers dropped the first two games of that year's World Series to the Yankees, Campanella began Brooklyn's comeback by hitting a two-out, two-run home run in the first inning of Game 3. The Dodgers won that game, got another home run from Campanella in a Game 4 victory that tied the series, and then went on to claim the series in seven games.
After the 1957 season, the Brooklyn Dodgers relocated to Los Angeles, California, and became the Los Angeles Dodgers, but Campanella's playing career came to an end before he ever played a game there. He sufered his well chronicled auto accident in the offseason on Jan. 28. 1958.
Career highlights and awards
8x All-Star selection (1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956)
World Series champion (1955)
3x NL MVP (1951, 1953, 1955)
Los Angeles Dodgers #39 retired
Member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame
Elected 1969
Vote 79.41%
Campy was simply a great instinctive player, one that simple stats cannot really define. I have nothing against Posada or any of the other catchers mentioned here but trust me baseball people still around from that era will tell you none of them are close to being as great a player and leader than Roy Campanella was.
In 1999, Campanella ranked number 50 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Baseball Players, and was a nominee for the Major League Baseball All-Century Team.
In 2006, Campanella was featured on a United States postage stamp. The stamp is one of a block of four honoring baseball sluggers, the others being Mickey Mantle, Hank Greenberg, and Mel Ott.
In September 2006, the Los Angeles Dodgers announced the creation of the Roy Campanella Award, which is voted among the club's players and coaches and is given to the Dodger who best exemplifies "Campy's" spirit and leadership. Shortstop Rafael Furcal was named the inaugural winner of the award.
No doubt about it my mind Roy Campanella is a real Hall of Famer.
Recommended reading.
Campanella, Roy. It's Good to Be Alive, New York: Little Brown and Co., 1959. Also The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn, written in tribute to the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers in 1971.
wil.
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