I apologize in advance but no one should have to spend two plus hours on a nice Saturday afternoon emailing crap over again and on the phone with different reps, who are giving you different information, just to get a payout. This shit is aggravating and a pain in the ass. books are taking liberties on players to do what the hell they want because there's no accountability and threats like Pinnacle are no longer around. We need a players' union or some shit or Vegas to get on board. Hell I'll even pay -115 if I can get a payout with delays and headaches. Sorry for the rant but I'm sick of this shit and these are "so called" reputable, forum advertising books that is pulling this crap too. You players out there know who they are. No thanks Wil I don't need your assistance at this moment, you've helped me out enough.