Books and Players getting screwed cont.

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

I would like that Rick fellow from Don Best to come back and lie to everyone again and say he enjoys competition.

And I would also like The Shrink to come on here and say where all the pressure is to delete or move my posts to the non-looked at areas of this forum.

I am probably just dreaming, it wont happen. Especially when this post will be deleted or moved within 5 minutes, and eventually I will be banned.

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

What's up Mike? What is the problem?

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

You know the problem. Why not let it out in the open?

You arent allowed to be the only forum, just like hes not allowed to be the only line service. Search my name in your forums. Check out the one that has a title similar to this. In no way was it an advertisement at all. In fact when I look at it someone asked what company I even worked for.

And the follow up post was moved too. I know you are able to run your forums however you wish, but censoring me when it is information that pertains to all just isnt right.

huggybear+ · Aug 20, 2004

Leave his posts General. They are very interesting and I am sure thrx readers would like to read them. Why censor his posts.

Journeyman · Aug 20, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> You arent allowed to be the only forum, just like hes not allowed to be the only line service <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very TRUE!!! Why is it though that anyone trying to hawk something runs here to spread their word lol?

JimFiestSux · Aug 20, 2004

GJMike,
nI know its none of my business but Don't bash an advertiser here, or bash other important posters, or advertise and you'll be fine,lol! I'm on your side buddy! These forums need to open up a bit more! Wheres Shrinky to defend himself??

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

I did some looking around. I am with you now.

Are you still worried that G&J will not be able to prove to players/posters they have an option other than DB? Are you still trying to slander DB to achieve some success for your business. Will not work that way Sir. Make your product the best you can and let it speak for itself.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> While I cant personally prove any of those things have happened, it is something I hear about regularly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

JFS, Journeyman, when my advertisements were moved, I got a little upset the first time. But I realized I was in the wrong and apologized. If you search these forums by Author name you will see recent posts that werent advertisements at all. Just information that relates to sportsbooks and players. My posts being moved here shows even more how shady it is. Because I know where the pressure to move them is coming from. Short of posting emails from books, and other places I really cant show you any more than I wrote. But if you cant see it going on, your eyes arent even open... Or maybe you dont care, in that case dont read my posts, but let them stand.

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by The General:
I did some looking around. I am with you now.

Are you still worried that G&J will not be able to prove to players/posters they have an option other than DB? Are you still trying to slander DB to achieve some success for your business. Will not work that way Sir. Make your product the best you can and let it speak for itself.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> While I cant personally prove any of those things have happened, it is something I hear about regularly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Come'on... are you really gonna stick with that story? You know damn well what is going on. Please dont lie to me or your readers. The post is real and people want to know about it. I didnt even mention who, most readers wouldnt even know who it was would they?

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

LMAO Mike. Pressure from who? Last I checked, no one has ordered me to do anything on this matter. You can speak here. You cannot promote here. You will not be allowed to slander DB or my aunt here. Pretty simple.

Yes, I just came on and I went and seen what happened, thus I am with you now as stated above.

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

That post wasnt a promotion, and didnt even have DB, Don Best, or anything else like it in there. Why is it so obvious to everyone that he's the culprit? And please, stop lieing... ignore me at the worst, but there are phone logs and emails to prove where this pressure comes from. Dont lower yourself to other people's standards, tell it like it is or ignore me.

JimFiestSux · Aug 20, 2004

Mike,
I just read your posts across the streets! I'm on your side with if you have enough proof to bash another site you should be able too!! General if he has a legit reason to slander DB WHY CAN'T HE?? Maybe thats why you have many more readers here than posters! Nobody should be "BLACK BALLED" into not being able to have their lines posted on another site! If they want to advertise their shop by putting out sharp lines or loose lines on a site that promotes it , they should be able too! They are paying for it! DB has been getting MANY negative remarks from all sites that "GENERAL" its time to open eyes and ears and stop wearing blinders and ear muffs!!

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> And please, stop lieing... ignore me at the worst, but there are phone logs and emails to prove where this pressure comes from. Dont lower yourself to other people's standards, tell it like it is or ignore me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have not lied to you. I don't make that a habit. As for pressure for ME to do anything, I have no idea where you are coming from.

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

JFS, in his defense its not really his fault. I know he gets the same pressure that the books, schedule makers get.

He is threatened if he allows GJ to say anything, he will pull the plug on advertising dollars, business relationships, etc. Thats why I was very careful in how i worded my post. I want people to know what goes on in this industry, but tried to be delicate enough not to point fingers. Although it is a little funny how everyone automatically knows who it is.

Just let Rick and the books come on here and debate it. No advertisements, no flames, and now lies... Ive got nothing to hide.

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

Professional & constructive discussion stays here. Slander and bashing will be removed.

JimFiestSux · Aug 20, 2004

Mike,
Do you really think they'd be allowed on here to debate the issue,lol?? You did a great job wording your posts! Good luck in the future with your site! The truth will come out and time will tell!

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

You said you agreed with me on my other post... where is it then?

Last time i posted here, did you not call and explain the whole situation to Joe? We have phone logs and emails all over the place with this stuff. You are telling me you are the ONLY person in the industry not getting pressured by them?

JimFiestSux · Aug 20, 2004

General,
Not for nothing but when a poster comes on here bashing a book, their posts stay on here and others join in ! Whats the difference?? Was a nerve hit??

TheGeneral+ · Aug 20, 2004

Jim,

We will not allow a normal policy of flaming and bashing. Can we get it all? No Sir. As far as hitting a nerve, I'll ask you like Mike. What are you talking about?

GJMike · Aug 20, 2004

Basically here is a question. We will say hypothetically my post was about Don Best. If I had a problem with them... just because they are your sponsor would you not allow my post to stand? Just because they pay you advertising dollars? Thats a little troubling when I see all these books banners all over the site. What happens when books start ripping players off?

This is a blunt point, and just so everyone knows, The General has helped us over at the office resolve some of our players problems over at books. Like I said many times, I believe you are a good guy... but I also think you are lieng to me, and therefor everyone else by denying the pressure you are getting from one of your advertisers. And its not some weird theory I have because I have heard it right out of your mouth.