Bookmaker: Atl -130

[WildGeneral]

I'm fairly new to online gambling and don't understand why some games, like Atl/TB today, have such exaggerated juice?

I mean, the Falcons are -3 points at -130...granted, the Bucs are +3 and Even, but why not make it -3.5 (or 4) and put the vig at -110 each way?

...also, they lock the hook on this game, so both teams are stuck at -3...if Atlanta wins by 3, the books make nothing on this game.

None of this makes any sense to me...anybody who has more experience with online gambling have some insight?

 

[Biggamer3]

Good Q's and i was thinking the same things as you (especially about the part of returning wagers) and I think the books logic is that with a number like 3 they would get much much more betting on that game then with a number like -3.5, so they adjust the publics team with a juice change instead of a linechange.

I was listening to a Vegas Insider on one of the local sports talk shows talking about the Bowl Games Betting, and he said along these lines and added a nice tidbit "In a big game you will NEVER see a pickem line, Vegas will always make one team a -1 so in peoples mind the +1 is an underdog and increases betting"

 

[benny0420]

VIG, Juice, whatever you want to call it. ATL -3 -130 is better to book than ATL -3.5 -110. The book is getting 30% vig rather than 10% with a possibility for a push. Put yourself in their shoes. They are in it for the long long long haul and at 30% vig they will over time kill it.

They also need Bucs $ so if you are going to bet the Bucs why not there VIG free.

Hope that helps.

 

[bellyputter]

Since 1978, 16.2% of all NFL games have landed on 3. There are even some instances(certain line and total) where the % is even greater. You should open up a sportsbook.

 

[WildGeneral]

VIG, Juice, whatever you want to call it. ATL -3 -130 is better to book than ATL -3.5 -110. The book is getting 30% vig rather than 10% with a possibility for a push. Put yourself in their shoes. They are in it for the long long long haul and at 30% vig they will over time kill it.

They also need Bucs $ so if you are going to bet the Bucs why not there VIG free.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the input thus far, fellas...

I agree with this answer to an extent, -130 one way equates to -115 both ways (which is better than -110 for the books). ...but with a -110 line and another -10 for a half-point buy either way, the book still gets something close to -115 AND doesn't risk losing all that vig on a tie (which, apparently, happens 1/6 times).

 

[Stocks]

How bout just for more action. More people me included would rather bet Atlanta -3 -130 than -3.5, I took them at -3 -125

I'm guessing that -3.5 would kill a lot of action on Atlanta and a lot of people might take Tampa +3.5 and maybe they dont want to give Tampa puls 3.5 points

 

[davidcng]

Atlanta wins by 3...

 

[Doug]

I'm fairly new to online gambling and don't understand why some games, like Atl/TB today, have such exaggerated juice?

I mean, the Falcons are -3 points at -130...granted, the Bucs are +3 and Even, but why not make it -3.5 (or 4) and put the vig at -110 each way?

...also, they lock the hook on this game, so both teams are stuck at -3...if Atlanta wins by 3, the books make nothing on this game.

None of this makes any sense to me...anybody who has more experience with online gambling have some insight?

I saw the line, it was

Atl -3 -130
TB +3.5 +110

coming off of the three moves it about 25 cents

Atl-3.5 -105
TB +3.5 -115

You can buy a half point nearly everywhere for 25 cents with a line of 3. However you rarely can sell a half, Atl-3.5-105.

 

[Akillies]

FEAR
that is why they do it
Pinnacle is the book that started widespread use of this practice, everybody copied, now it is common
doing this reduces there exposure

 

[Doug]

FEAR
that is why they do it
Pinnacle is the book that started widespread use of this practice, everybody copied, now it is common
doing this reduces there exposure

I don't know about that. You can go to 3.5 at close to -110 each way, some books like 5D offer multiple lines.

You can buy a half ( everywhere,almost) to get TB +3.5, or Atl -2.5.

Atlanta -3.5 is tougher to get, but possible.

I think the books tend to stick to the 3, instead of going 2.5, to prevent 6 point teasers, but going to 3.5 is not a problem.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Common Sense is why you don't get off of 3 in the pros...not fear....most places now will not let you buy off of three, but they will let you buy to three....

 

[Doug]

why not let a player off of 3, with enough juice ?

 

[Akillies]

cause common sense says books are afraid of gettin middled.

 

[Doug]

Moving the juice, and allowing a scalp is about the same as a middle.

You can take a game at 3, and buy the fav to -2.5, and the dog to +3.5, creating a middle on the three, at many books.

The books just have to charge enough for the buy, to make it unprofitable to do it...problem solved.

Some books used to let you buy off/on 3 for 10 cents. They failed.

It becomes a prop:

Will the fav win by exactly 3 points ?

fair price would be maybe +500 ( or so) on a game lined at 3.