BJ and ROULETTE ARE SCAMS

Brazil4Worldcup2002 · Apr 30, 2004

no real way of beating them in the long run unless count cards in BJ and cheat in roulette.
Counting cards has become increasingly difficult with 6 decks and particularly automatic shuffling machines (which makes it impossible). So why do people still try to beat the house? So arrogant of them.

RobFunk · Apr 30, 2004

alex you think some wheels are biased?! does this still happen today? i know some story where billy walters won 6 figures betting the same 3 numbers everytime becuase he found a "biased" wheel

there are so many roulette tables in the world, some of them have to be weighted no way around it. there cant possibly be super strict inspection on every damn wheel out there

D2bets · Apr 30, 2004

I beat the house in Blackjack without the traditional card counting. It's doable.

As for roulette, nobody really thinks they can beat that.

RobFunk · Apr 30, 2004

yup. you are right D2. im thinking of the game with the big ass wheel. (what is it called?) roulette i doubt any huge mathematical advatage can be found in any of the wheels. that stupid white ball is a much a variable as the wheel is

maxdemo · Apr 30, 2004

What about craps..I love to play baccarrat and do ok..but what about craps??

RobFunk · Apr 30, 2004

what is the game called with the big wheel?!

Mr NJ Sports · Apr 30, 2004

The big wheel.

Brazil4Worldcup2002 · Apr 30, 2004

"Las Vegas wasn't built on winners"

lol, love that quote.

D2bets · Apr 30, 2004

Blackjack is beatable. Fishhead often says some video poker is beatable. Vegas can afford to have some "beatable" games(i.e. loss leaders) because even at those games the vast majority of people betting will not bet in such a way that can beat them.

NickyDeuces · Apr 30, 2004

Many have heard this before but...

Want to leave Vegas with a small fortune?

Arrive there with a large fortune.

BTW, IMO blackjack is by far a gamblers best chance at winning. (or poker)

RobFunk · Apr 30, 2004

the big wheel is damn beatable just ask bill walters. im telling you there has to be some biased wheels. he put his 250k vs the casinos winner take all and he won betting the same damn 3 numbers

Fishhead · Apr 30, 2004

Anybody with the know how and desire can make money at video poker.

Far and away the best casino game to play, with blackjack and certain type slots very close.

ps- I do not consider sportsbetting, horse racing, and live poker a casino game by my criteria.

The BIG WHEEL is absolutely one of the, if not the number one, worst game you can play in the casino.

RobFunk · Apr 30, 2004

of course it is fish. . .but if you know it favors 3 numbers that is a different story. its not like youre gunna sit there and say "16 thats the sharp play on this next spin, see I told you the public was on everything else"

FunkSoulBrother · Apr 30, 2004

fish, do you have any resources on how to optimally look for and play Video Poker machines?

What is the basic strategy? Forego small prizes and draw for the big ones?

Fishhead · Apr 30, 2004

Rob-
You can also have the wheel spinner be able to come close to three specific numbers with mucho practice.

Fishhead · Apr 30, 2004

Funk- Every game has its own specific PERFECT strategy.

Here is a website that comes with my highest recommedation .......

http://www.advantageplayer.com/videopoker/index.html?content=/videopoker/about/about_danpaymar.html

Fishhead · Apr 30, 2004

If your serious about becoming a video poker professional or just want to come out ahead longtern on the game, I suggest you get this book...................

If you have any questions, feel free to email me at Strutnut@aol.com

FunkSoulBrother · Apr 30, 2004

Thank for the info Fish. Not looking at doing it professionally but would like to maximize my play next time I hit the casino.

NickyDeuces · Apr 30, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FISHHEAD:
Anybody with the know how and desire can make money at video poker.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I've heard that more than just a few times. Guess I'm going to have to check it out soon.

Anyone remember video horse racing games? Back in the 70's would play them, mostly at the Stardust. You could bet up to three dollars a race. (would show replays on Los AL QH races with made up names) But if you played enough, and I did, they were beatable. Why they ditched 'em I assume. A couple times I won on 99-1's (at two other casinos) because I remembered the race. (by the names, which pop up initially)

Fishhead · Apr 30, 2004

Vegas- I sure do remember those.

I was watching my mom play one at the HILTON and I'll be damned if the SAME race didnt show up back-to-back in which a 58-1 dog won!!

She put $20 on it and collected a nice profit and then I told her to get the heck out of the casino. LOL