could you all imagin how much coin this guy would have if he spent half the time he spends on this form talking abouty nothing, and acutally studied. This guy spends half his ridicules misserable life defending joe c. i don;t know what billdozer has going on with joe c. but anytime one man sticks up for another so much one must wonder, in the mean time billdozer why don't you start trying to count your own money not everyone else. (I forgot when you don't have any of your own coin you tend to count everyones but yours), Also why don't you pick on someone else besides Rio everyone sick of hearing bitch about a fictious problem.
Extreem, I used to hate the guy at first, but he does bring a lot of good to these forums. If he simply worked harder to get facts before making statements that could hurt sportsbooks or individuals he would be without flaw. I guess nobody is perfect, but I have come to enjoy a lot of the things that he writes. I think his new years resolution should be to get the facts straight before making comments that can hurt individuals or businesses. Like Mcirish said about several people here, if you are make 10 allegations, and 8 are right, but the 2 that are wrong hurt businesses and individuals, then are the 8 right ones worth it? I just think he needs to get more hard evidence when he attacks people or businesses. Other than that, i think he is one of the smartest and most knowledgeable people here.
HaHA, O jeez
Do I dare repsond to this guy.
I'm guessing your talking about...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Rio,
Don't worry about it. Peep and Joey C are scammng over the entire industry this week and next week we will probably see what Ben and Jlo are doing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't know ANYTHING about whats going on with Joey C nor do I pretend to know what the hell MW talks about and the "inside issues" with Rio.
This was a reference to the BS stuff posted in the forum coming from MW. If anything I didnt like all the speculation and rumors about Rio as it mucked up some legitimate concerns and Qs people had stemming from sudden aggressive telemarketing among other things. (not getting into it again)
I try to avoid the character aspect or as General said "soaps" unless it concerns the business stuff or in defense of something someone else posted in bad taste.
speaking of spending time.... how about spending some time adding the rest of your letters
Do I dare repsond to this guy.
I'm guessing your talking about...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Rio,
Don't worry about it. Peep and Joey C are scammng over the entire industry this week and next week we will probably see what Ben and Jlo are doing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't know ANYTHING about whats going on with Joey C nor do I pretend to know what the hell MW talks about and the "inside issues" with Rio.
This was a reference to the BS stuff posted in the forum coming from MW. If anything I didnt like all the speculation and rumors about Rio as it mucked up some legitimate concerns and Qs people had stemming from sudden aggressive telemarketing among other things. (not getting into it again)
I try to avoid the character aspect or as General said "soaps" unless it concerns the business stuff or in defense of something someone else posted in bad taste.
speaking of spending time.... how about spending some time adding the rest of your letters
weekend,
I'd like to offer you a friendly challenge of showing me something I've posted that was a hurtful allegation. There is a difference between watching the signs and drawing conclusions from it and yelling it all over like a certain well known poster does.
As far as posting an OBSERVATION books are gonna have to deal with it as its the nature of the business. That may change with disclosing finances but not yet. What Major posts about Peep and JOey C is not right and the insults he posted about Rio was not right as it clogged real questions. I liked Rio from day one but had questions and interpreted my own signs. Everyone jumped on me for the Royal issue but I felt Royal obtained atleast 200K worth of assets (advertising and new market share) and should not have called it a bail but I don't disrespect except when ignored which is insulting. Sometimes the squeaky wheel has to squeak or else the mods and shills try to bump your topic. Roberto and I talked and he is a nice guy but the industry is steered by us as a body and nothing else and everything that happens today depicts how its handled tomarrow.
I would thank you for the handshake if you didnt smack me with the other hand but its OK.
[This message was edited by BillDozer on December 13, 2003 at 02:38 PM.]
I'd like to offer you a friendly challenge of showing me something I've posted that was a hurtful allegation. There is a difference between watching the signs and drawing conclusions from it and yelling it all over like a certain well known poster does.
As far as posting an OBSERVATION books are gonna have to deal with it as its the nature of the business. That may change with disclosing finances but not yet. What Major posts about Peep and JOey C is not right and the insults he posted about Rio was not right as it clogged real questions. I liked Rio from day one but had questions and interpreted my own signs. Everyone jumped on me for the Royal issue but I felt Royal obtained atleast 200K worth of assets (advertising and new market share) and should not have called it a bail but I don't disrespect except when ignored which is insulting. Sometimes the squeaky wheel has to squeak or else the mods and shills try to bump your topic. Roberto and I talked and he is a nice guy but the industry is steered by us as a body and nothing else and everything that happens today depicts how its handled tomarrow.
I would thank you for the handshake if you didnt smack me with the other hand but its OK.
[This message was edited by BillDozer on December 13, 2003 at 02:38 PM.]
Bill, your points are well taken. I guess an inherent degree of cynicism in an industry that is relatively unregulated makes sense. After Aces Gold and several other unscrupulous scumbags did their damage, it makes perfect sense to be skeptical. My only point is that skepticism is good, but there should be some degree of factual foundation. Right now I am hearing that Bluegrass owes a lot of people. I am not going to act on those rumours, until I can get solid facts that people aren't getting paid. In fact, I continue to do business with them and will play there with confidence until I know 1000% that people are getting burned. I just think that it isn't fair to pull my funds based on rumors. You are entitled to your opinions, and I respect what you bring to the forums. Merry X mas, and may you win all of your games.
The degree of risk you take is your own business.
I don’t feel its necessary to be that conservative with a book that offers me no real assurances. It is a business and how well they maintain their image effects their stock and thats by their own hand.
As far as everything else… Thank you for acknowledging the difference.
Gl to you as well!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Right now I am hearing that Bluegrass owes a lot of people. I am not going to act on those rumours, until I can get solid facts that people aren't getting paid. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
BTW I think you just did.
I don’t feel its necessary to be that conservative with a book that offers me no real assurances. It is a business and how well they maintain their image effects their stock and thats by their own hand.
As far as everything else… Thank you for acknowledging the difference.
Gl to you as well!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Right now I am hearing that Bluegrass owes a lot of people. I am not going to act on those rumours, until I can get solid facts that people aren't getting paid. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
BTW I think you just did.
your reply is completly incompitant, in the mean time i reasearched a few of your post and they weren't that bad, i've also asked around about you and people have said you have contributed some great stuff to this fourm, so i may have been out of line on the topic, but i'm sure you posted some things an later wished you wouldn't have.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WEEKENDALKI:
...... Like Mcirish said about several people here, if you are make 10 allegations, and 8 are right, but the 2 that are wrong hurt businesses and individuals, then are the 8 right ones worth it? .....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No big deal but where did I ever say this? I've seen you quote it at least two or three times and I don't recall ever saying it. Just curious where it came from?
For the record I think Bill's fine, has opinions like the rest of us. It's the sheep that are misled and then sent to be attack shills that are the worst. Know nothing or anybody but are fed negative information to discredit other peoples enemies.
...... Like Mcirish said about several people here, if you are make 10 allegations, and 8 are right, but the 2 that are wrong hurt businesses and individuals, then are the 8 right ones worth it? .....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No big deal but where did I ever say this? I've seen you quote it at least two or three times and I don't recall ever saying it. Just curious where it came from?
For the record I think Bill's fine, has opinions like the rest of us. It's the sheep that are misled and then sent to be attack shills that are the worst. Know nothing or anybody but are fed negative information to discredit other peoples enemies.
