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unreal, they are also getting more then a td with mich st and wisconsin getting more then a fg against an average fsu team, iowa the only one thats favored of the 7 teams
 

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i think we know why sad thing is theyll all get blown out anyways probably
 

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Because they have the hardest bowl schedule of any conference pretty much every year. Ohio St., the Big 10 #2 plays what may be the best team in the best conference in the Fiesta Bowl. Penn St. gets to play a road game against USC and the rest trickles down from there. The match-ups don't favor the Big 10 at all, just like last year. FSU is one of the top teams in the ACC and are playing a few hours from home against a team that went 3-5 in the Big 10. Why is that so hard to understand?

The Big 10 isn't the only BCS conference that would be a big dog with these match-ups. I don't understand why so many haters have an agenda against the Big 10.
 

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Because generally speaking when a team winds up with 2 BCS teams, every team moves up a slot in their bowl position. So, instead of UGA playing MSU, they would have played OSU and and so on and so forth.

Common Sense.
 

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The Big 10 has a really tough bowl schedule, I would say the hardest out of every conference. What people always fail to look at when comparing bowl records is the matchups. I can see the SEC doing well this bowl season, but that's because for the most part they got a VERY easy schedule. Bama got the worst team in the BCS games, Georgia got Mich St instead of Ohio St, Kentucky got an overrated ECU team, South Carolina did draw a pretty tough Iowa team that should beat them, LSU drew a much less talented team in GT (they'll still lose because of the coaching difference) and so on..People always state bowl records to prove one conf is better than the other but never really look at the fact that maybe some conferences had it tougher.

Big 10 will do well ATS imo, and so will the Pac 10. Not going to argue that they're great conferences, but both will do well ATS this bowl season.
 

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WTF, so the Big 10 conference champion is playing another conference champion, your #2 team is playing a #2 team from another conference and they are both double digit dogs and the reasoning is that the games are to difficult for the Big 10? Then they should withdraw from the BCS so their Bowl schedule gets easier for them.
 

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WTF, so the Big 10 conference champion is playing another conference champion, your #2 team is playing a #2 team from another conference and they are both double digit dogs and the reasoning is that the games are to difficult for the Big 10? Then they should withdraw from the BCS so their Bowl schedule gets easier for them.

The point is if the #2 team from the Pac 10, ACC, Big East, any non BCS conference and probably SEC was playing Texas, they would be a double digit dog. Same goes for almost any #1 conference team playing USC "in the Rose Bowl" aside from Florida, Texas and Oklahoma.

So the simple minded Big 10 bashers need to understand that.
 

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The point is if the #2 team from the Pac 10, ACC, Big East, any non BCS conference and probably SEC was playing Texas, they would be a double digit dog. Same goes for almost any #1 conference team playing USC "in the Rose Bowl" aside from Florida, Texas and Oklahoma.

So the simple minded Big 10 bashers need to understand that.

Texas would actually be close to a double digit dog. At least 7 pt underdog vs USC. This has nothing to do with me thinking USC is the best before people start bashing, this is just where they would put the line. OK would be at least a 4 pt favorite over Texas if they played again also.
 

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Look at it this way using conferences, and see what the spreads / matchups would be...

Using Pac 10

USC/PSU
Oregon/Texas
Oregon St/Georgia
California/S.Car
Arizona/Missouri
Stanford/Florida St
Arizona St/Kansas

I see quite a few big big dogs there.

Using the Big East

Cincinnati/USC
WVU/Texas
Pitt/Georgia
UCONN/S.Car
S. FLA/Missouri
Rutgers/Fla St
Louisville/Kansas

I'm not sure any of those teams would be favored...or underdogs by less than a TD

Most agree the Big XII and SEC are tops the last few years, but to act like the Big Ten is CUSA is absurd. The Pac10 and Big East would be even bigger dogs in these bowl matchups, and in fact didn't even have enough eligible teams to fill above matchups.
 

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the onyl thing i can argue for the big 10 and the ONLY thing is that minn and nw have not gotten any respect from the oddsmaker all year, nw was getting points at home to illinois for godsake. big east is even worse then the big 10 no one would argue that, but the big 10 is clearly 4th ahead of only acc and big east in terms of strength.
 

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At this point it's hard to tell which conference is where. We may find that the Big 12 is not what it's cracked up to be because of their defense or it could be the exact opposite and they blow the doors off everyone. The SEC couldn't even come up with a winning record against the ACC so who's to say they are a top conference. The PAC 10 probably has a losing record against the WAC and MWC so who knows if they are really ahead of anyone. All the conferences out there have some tough questions to answer except maybe the Big12. Then again, Okie Light, Texas Tech, and Texas, all had cake walk schedules before conference play so the even the best conference has something to prove.
 

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pac 10 has a losing record against mwc because byu beat ucla and washington and unlv beat asu right off the top of my head, utah barely beat oregon st at home in a very tight game, so i dont think that is a good arguement.

these lesser games will tell us a lot about the conferences.

i might add that the byu game was washingtons only COVER of the whole year.
 

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I think I'm gonna hammer Wisky.

The ACC is the weakest conference in the BCS and for some reason they are favored in most of their games. I agree with you . . . . .
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Because they have the hardest bowl schedule of any conference pretty much every year. Ohio St., the Big 10 #2 plays what may be the best team in the best conference in the Fiesta Bowl. Penn St. gets to play a road game against USC and the rest trickles down from there. The match-ups don't favor the Big 10 at all, just like last year. FSU is one of the top teams in the ACC and are playing a few hours from home against a team that went 3-5 in the Big 10. Why is that so hard to understand?

The Big 10 isn't the only BCS conference that would be a big dog with these match-ups. I don't understand why so many haters have an agenda against the Big 10.


Good point....not to mention last year....

Where Ohio St played AT LSU for the NAt'l Title...
Illinois played AT USC
Michigan played AT Florida
Hell, I even think Purdue played AT Central Michigan...

The Big 10 plays most of their bowl games in the other teams home state or stadium...distinct disadvantage.....

Why doesn't the Big 10/SEC do a Big 10/sec Challenege in say...November?

Florida vs Ohio St in the Shoe, in November when it is 21 degrees?

or

LSU in the Big House in November, when it is snowing and 25 degrees vs Michigan?

Does Florida even have any "cold gear?" Better yet...do they even leave go north of Georgia?
 

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pac 10 has a losing record against mwc because byu beat ucla and washington and unlv beat asu right off the top of my head, utah barely beat oregon st at home in a very tight game, so i dont think that is a good arguement.

these lesser games will tell us a lot about the conferences.

i might add that the byu game was washingtons only COVER of the whole year.

Not a good arguement?!?!
The PAC 10 is 3-9 against the MWC and WAC combined. Their only wins were OSU over Hawaii, Stanford over San Jose St, and Cal over Colorado St. They lost in every big match-up like Boise St., Utah, TCU, Fresno St., ect... Look I'm not here to call out the Pac-10 but I think that constitutes as a question to be answered. Same goes with the other conferences. Maybe they redeem themselves or maybe they get exposed, I guess we'll find out.

What's not a good arguement is trying to say "Washington covered" or "Orgegon St. played Utah on the road and it was a close game". As far as ASU, yes they lost to UNLV and UNLV was a team that went 5-7 on the year.

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Penn State will beat USC in the Rose Bowl.... Just look at their team and at their bowl record..... Take em with the ML.... you will be happy...:103631605
 

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