Beverly Hill Bookie , I am waiting

TheMajor+ · Oct 24, 2003

You like to use the forums to conduct your business. Well the first email or correspondance I have ever received from you was yesterday. I sent the email back confirming that you wish to be taken down without any refund (as one is not due) Please respond to it so we can get this done.

As an aside, where exactly are you located?
http://www.majorwager.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=73225

Now I can presume you young folk are out saving whales this afternoon so I will need to wait for a reply until tonight , but be assured I am standing by.

Lander this is your chance...yet again. go boy go...be sure to incorporate securebuxx, nab camelot and majorbetting into you post for bonus money from the shrunk.

BTW you ever looked at peeps site to see exactly what the people you banned from here , and others, think of you? hehehehe its some good stuff you hacker you.

Russ

lander · Oct 24, 2003

Where are you located??

Why would you send your gamblers to place that you, well, didn't even know where it was??

Major,
You sound like a piss poor watchdog, and an irresponsible leader. I expected mor .. nevermind, no I didn't.

Two words - Due Dilligence.

TheMajor+ · Oct 24, 2003

pitiful, pitiful ,pitiful answer Lander. I expected much beter. I particularily liked the one the other day where you said you had a day job and could not answer right away.

hehehehe

Seriously though Lander, dont ya love the thread at peeps about you? Am I allowed to post it here???

Let me know

lander · Oct 24, 2003

Major,
When you're on the #1 posting forum you have a habit to post there. I can't be bothered to go seach all the nickel and dime whorehouses everyday to see who's mad at me now.

TheMajor+ · Oct 24, 2003

was that a yes or a no.

let me know

lander · Oct 24, 2003

Ok, I took the time just for you. Here's what I found.

My personal favorite -

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Scoob Posted: Oct 24 2003, 09:45 AM
Advanced Member

Group: Members
Posts: 130
Member No.: 122
Joined: 23-July 03

I was slow paid there a couple months ago as were several others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's see we have -
A. DogBall - tout cast off. Actually talked with me about build tout web sites for his scamming tout-self, but since he was kicked off the RX for threatening to sue people the tout business has taken a turn south. No websites need, no use for Lander, pissed off at the RX ... let's just bash em' to hell.
Ok, isn't that just lovely.

Altice - fuking retard. He's an anti-RXer that attacks anything affiliated with the RX. I could care less about this shit stain.

EGD - I ripped on this guy for a while during a cold streak, so I can take it back. No harm, no foul. And truth be told - he's a decent capper.

Pepe - now here's the shocker. I haven't said a bad word about him. I wished him luck. I've IM'd a few times ... but oh .. a chance to get hits. Let's take a shot .. the way he used to start 10 MajorBetting threads a day, right?? Remember that Major? Do you?
Ah, the good old days.

And of all people to post this "jump/how high" assinine remark about .. I had it out with Pepe a few times back here. I'm about the least likely to conform, but hey .. shit sells. Right Pepe? You're getting bitter and lonely in your old age, aren't you?

Ok, the other guy liked me, but I don't think I know him.

Happy buddy?

PatrickMcIrish · Oct 24, 2003

Russ - if you are going to keep his money, keep it. You seem to think it's okay so do it, I have no idea how these contracts (or lack of one) work. I guess since you are holding the money you can make the rules. If it was me and I took his banners down then I would refund his unused money, that's just me though. Why would you want to keep it if you didn't provide what you had agreed upon? Because you are able to confiscate it or because you think it's the right thing to do? I know since he spoke up for Rio and they are one of your hated rivals he needs to be punished but I am tired of this already. Punish these guys somewhere else. We all have learned that people will pay dearly when they mess with you but let's leave it at your site. I have a feeling this is going downstairs with the rest of this sort of stuff.....

bhbookie · Oct 24, 2003

major-

you are a worm. i repeat a worm. im so excited to tell the world that, i cant even take the time to capitalize my letters.

i have replied to your email. the one that staes how you will not refund the un-used portion of our $$$$.

and still - i want bhb down off your good for nothing site. you not returning the funds shows what a loser you are.

you have no contract. none whatsoever. your max price per month is 2k. you know it. i am not asking to pay a discounted rate. i am willing to pay full rate.

i prepaid the year in good faith that you would get bhb more players. you did not. i cancelled. period. you can keep the money you poor bastard. i promise you will lose many advertisers. in fact you will probably keep them up as to look like they are still with you.

we did not, and do not, have a year contract.

loser.

for all posters who think i am wrong because i am cancelling for childish reasons, sorry.

at least see the fact that the major said his cost was 2k perp month, or 15k for the year. we prepaid. now that we want down from his site, its his call as to whats fair. and any good business person would say that paying the full 2k per month is whats fair. and refunding the rest makes sense. again there is no contract that states otherwise.

for the ones who say im an idiot for not having a contract, guess what, half of the books there dont have one. russ was supposedly a man of his word. too bad i found out too late what so many already know.

enjoy the 10k loser, it will cost you more in the long run.

oh yah, where are we located. r u kidding. marketing is in costa, and wagering is in panama. like you dont know that. and if you didnt.......

why would you let us advertise with you.

you are scum, money hungry scum.

and as for you badmouthing rio. again. you are a scumbag. no proof. talking out of your ass. personal agenda. they spend more on payroll in one year than you gross in 5 years loser.

-SCOTT

justin post this in all forums, thanks. yes. even with the typos.

Chadster · Oct 24, 2003

children take it outside

bhbookie · Oct 24, 2003

to all other advertisers with MW. i know some of you think my ways are unorthidox, its no secret. your right. but please make note of this-

if a "newer" book (one who has to be cautious of where and what they spend money on with regards to advertising) is willing to take their banners down from mw even though they wont get their money back. that should tell you something.

it should tell you that 9 more months of exposure on mw is worth nothing. because it would cost me nothing more to keep bhb banners up, and instead im taking them down.

look into how many accounts you get from there. there site is not worth it.

and if you ever stop advertising with them, they will bash you for years and years. unless you pay them to shut up.

watch dog site, you dont even know ehere were located russ.

bhbookie · Oct 24, 2003

jay leno

i would love to!

then i would make him were a bhb t-shirt, for free

LouDiamond+ · Oct 24, 2003

posted October 24, 2003 03:51 PM
A contract in this biz is worth less than the paper it's written on.

BHB wants off because Major has acted in bad faith against a book. All deals, contracts et al, are based on *good faith*. You can say all you want about Major looking out for the player. But anybody with a clue knows that he sure wasn't looking out for anyone but himself during the Camelot, Nab, Aces, Alladin and Securbuxx robberies. In fact, denied there would be issues with any of those robberies until they were forgone conclusions. He has provided no proof about Rio, but yet when he had proof on the aformentioned robberies, he was singing Silent Night. By no means does that mean that Rio doesn't have a debt, but only a SUCKER would take Major at his word.

It's obvious, Major won't pay them back because he's a thief, and more than likely, is broke due to lack of advertising and the reality of the books knowing they can stay on for free.

BHB has publicly stated they want off. Major whines about wanting a private e-mail. Why? A public statement is much stronger than a private one.

Bottom line is:
Whatever BHB motive for removal is, Major (a notorious liar who has had many chances to save the player and didn't) attacked a book (with no slow/no payment history) without proof, in a probable extortion attempt. Why wouldn't any of their advertisers feel they could be next?

I believe the majority of books do not pay to be on sites after a year or so of exposure. It makes no sense to them. It's the same players, year after year. IMO, other books aren't complaining because they're taking the FREE RIDE the Major is forced to give them.

chips · Oct 24, 2003

BHB, I try to stay out of other peoples bizness deals but you paid for a year and you want to back out and take your banners down, that does not entitle you to a refund. If you take out a full page ad in the NY Times and dont like the results they gave you, YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR MONEY BACK! I have played with BHB in the past and I liked the service, but these forum flame wars make you look bad, write off the 10k and move on, a book throwing insults at others is not a good thing for future cutomers to see.

LouDiamond+ · Oct 24, 2003

Chips,
If his banners are down for a 10 months, it would be for ads he never had placed.

It's called good faith. Major doesn't have any. Verified and documented.

lander · Oct 24, 2003

Lou,
Do you still have that quote about Major having financial interest in SecureBuxx?

Rogthedodger · Oct 24, 2003

BHB wants off because Major has acted in bad faith against a book.

Give it a rest Lou, the customer wants to back out of an agreement, nothing "bad faith" has been committed by MW. A product/service was paid for and the product/service was delivered. The term "bad faith" is a legal term that you have no idea the meaning of. Do not speak about things you have no knowledge of, stick to scamming people, something you're good at.

BoZZi · Oct 24, 2003

chips did you read what he said.....HE DOES NOT WANT THE REFUND!!! he just wants off the site....a normal person would give it back to him!

chips · Oct 24, 2003

Bozzi, he may say he doesnt want the refund but every post that BHB has made refers to the money, maybe there is a reason for that???

Fishhead · Oct 24, 2003

Major- Perhaps give BHB back half the money and take them off your site. Seems that would be honorable. Then we can all move on. Thanks

bhbookie · Oct 24, 2003

the service was NOT delivered.

if we stayed up for a year then it would have been.

yes, me bashing him is unprofessional, but not nearly as bad as his practices are. he keeps books up to look busy, most dont even pay. he is a joke.

i dont care about the 10k, its principle. just shows the kind of person he is.

i did not "agree" to a year. i "agreed" to prepay, so if i do have the banner up the year i get a better rate.

by not having them up the full year i have to pay full retail for the time i did have them up.

if you make a deal with the ny times for a year at a set cost per month. lets say 50k per month or 400k for the year, and you cancel after 3 months then they would charge you 150k. and refund the rest. in other words you get the discount only if you do the full year, if not you pay full retail. no price break. so you would get back 250k.

the clincher being, 250k would have gotten you 9 more months. average cost 27,777 per month is you continued as compared to the

50k per month for the 3 you got instead.

think about it.